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Brinn
December 6th, 2006, 07:08 am
Greetings Ichigo's forum, this is my first post and I would appriciate any help that you could give. Recently I started studing the violin. I chose to learn to play an instrimunt because of the music in anime and games. There's some realy great stuff that I would love to play. Im not quite up to the task yet but I started looking around anyway. My problem is that I can't seem to find much sheet music for the violin. Iv been to a number of sites and 97% of the stuff I find is for the piano. Why is that? Is there a way to adapt that to the violin? As I said Im a novice at this so please forgive me if Im asking a question with an obvious answer. Thank you, m(_ _)m
Milchh
December 6th, 2006, 11:52 am
Yea, that's a common problem for other people who play different instruments. It's mainly for piano since it's the most commonly played instrument, and probably the one people enjoy the most to transpose or arrange for.
I know there's some music out the for violin, that's a fact, but violin solos are a littel rare.
Tell you what, download a songs sheet music for piano, and then play the top staff. (Obviously) that's where your melody should be. There's also osme good Violin + Piano duets: I'm referring to josh's arrangement of "Say Goodbye" from .hack//SIGN. Get a piano play and you guys should practice it--it's a great piece.
Sondagger
December 7th, 2006, 02:07 am
You can always request a transcription. I've got a few on my site, link in sig. Also there a link in my site called SODA, follow the instructions and for your instrument put violin. That should give you some links. You can also try putting in flute since both are in the same key and in near the same range (give or take)
Brinn
December 8th, 2006, 03:49 pm
Thank you both very much for your advice. Im sure it will come in handy.
DraconPern
December 10th, 2006, 09:46 am
You should look at Violinmasterclass.com, it's run by a nonprofit organization. Lots of video's etc. Great for supplementing lessons.
an-kun
December 10th, 2006, 08:40 pm
follow mazeppa's advice, but only if it has a treble clef for obvious reasons. You'll find most songs play the main tune that way.
KaitouKudou
December 11th, 2006, 06:07 pm
Why do you find more Piano sheet music than violin?
The answer is simple, the piano is able to have an accompniment and the violin can't. The piano has a greater range. There are less limitations to the piano than for the violin such as impossible double/triple/quad stops as well as the difficulty for a violin player to play the possible ones.
that1player
February 21st, 2007, 03:54 pm
Most people transcribe it in piano because again it is the most played instrument. To transcribe it to violin, all you have to do is take the melody or whatever notes you want and put it into violin part. It shouldn't be hard because the melody is usually in the treble cleff.
Ame_Kangen
February 21st, 2007, 11:27 pm
Yes..I too am a professional violinist but if you just started there aren't very many anime peices that you could play since they are all in the intermediate-advanced level. I f you can read music very well a;ready you could play just the G clef part of the piano and just kinda improvise or change it around a bit. Do you know how to shift yet?
P.S. When did you start and how many years?((I would love to interact with other violinists on the site!))
that1player
February 22nd, 2007, 04:03 pm
YEs i know how to shift. If i didn't, i would be a failure of a violinist. I have played for ten years lol. I am assistant concertmaster in the Youth Orchestra of the Rockies. Yeah i plan to major or minor in violin playing in college. How about u? Where did u graduate from? How long do u practice? lol
Ame_Kangen
February 22nd, 2007, 07:43 pm
YEs i know how to shift. If i didn't, i would be a failure of a violinist. I have played for ten years lol. I am assistant concertmaster in the Youth Orchestra of the Rockies. Yeah i plan to major or minor in violin playing in college. How about u? Where did u graduate from? How long do u practice? lol
I'm still in college!
I'm going to go from the Iwakuni university to the Berlin univ. of The Arts!
And..I basically spend my whole day practicingbecuase that's my job. I used to be ina youth orchestra but now I'm a bit old...My dream is to be in the Berlin Radio Orchestra! I want a doctorates in musical education or performance(wanna be a prof.)
SBmocyarpir
February 24th, 2007, 02:22 am
Yes..I too am a professional violinist but if you just started there aren't very many anime peices that you could play since they are all in the intermediate-advanced level. I f you can read music very well a;ready you could play just the G clef part of the piano and just kinda improvise or change it around a bit. Do you know how to shift yet?
P.S. When did you start and how many years?((I would love to interact with other violinists on the site!))
I know you didn't ask me directly, but I started 8 years ago, and am currently on suzuki book 6. And I do know how to shift. To all positions.
that1player
February 24th, 2007, 07:52 pm
Yeah i started 10 years ago and i started with suzuki until book seven. Now i am working on a concerto by Goldmark. My teacher asked me if i wanted to do that or the Mendehlson but i love the Goldmark. My current teacher is retired from the Cleveland symphony Orchestra which like the best one in the US. He is Awesome!
Ame_Kangen
February 25th, 2007, 02:10 am
Book 6 is pretty advanced but if you would like Anime Sheet Music then you could play by ear by listening to the music on the anime.Is anyone on this website Professional yet? I would like to talk to some virtuosi if there are any.
SBmocyarpir
February 25th, 2007, 06:16 am
I learned Suteki Da Ne by ear...I'm actually better at playing by ear than I am sight reading...it's just really hard to read notes that go waaaaaaaay beyond the staff...
I plan to learn all the suzuki books until working on other stuff...I hear that books 9 and 10 are both just one Mozart concerto...
that1player
February 26th, 2007, 03:44 pm
Book 6 is pretty advanced but if you would like Anime Sheet Music then you could play by ear by listening to the music on the anime.Is anyone on this website Professional yet? I would like to talk to some virtuosi if there are any.
No I wish but i am only 14. My teacher is really good so i could ask him some questions if you have any. I thought book 8 or 9 of the Suzuki books had the Saint-Saens concerto. Anyways, has anyone even heard the Goldmark?
LiliumDynasty
February 26th, 2007, 05:15 pm
piano is popular.....I'm not sure
Ame_Kangen
February 26th, 2007, 09:49 pm
I learned Suteki Da Ne by ear...I'm actually better at playing by ear than I am sight reading...it's just really hard to read notes that go waaaaaaaay beyond the staff...
I plan to learn all the suzuki books until working on other stuff...I hear that books 9 and 10 are both just one Mozart concerto...
Oh..come on. if you want to join a professional orchestra you can't play by ear...And the Suzuki Books are pretty easy because Dr. Suzuki edited some of it... Hope you do well!
LiliumDynasty
February 27th, 2007, 01:36 pm
I agree, I'm learning by Suzuki and I heart the Suzuki style!
that1player
February 27th, 2007, 03:43 pm
I started learning with Suzuki until about book 7 which really helped me to play in orchestra but it is a little bit difficult to sight read. Now I am slightly beyond the Suzuki books. And playing orchestra music by ear? I laugh. you can't expect to play music by ear especially in orchestras. It is important to watch your music as well as listening to what the orchestra is doing.
Ame_Kangen
February 28th, 2007, 01:23 am
I started learning with Suzuki until about book 7 which really helped me to play in orchestra but it is a little bit difficult to sight read. Now I am slightly beyond the Suzuki books. And playing orchestra music by ear? I laugh. you can't expect to play music by ear especially in orchestras. It is important to watch your music as well as listening to what the orchestra is doing.
The notes are so small!!! It's not a good idea to play music by ear unless you have perfect pitch. In an orchestra you have to stay together.(same tempo,bow direction,beat,speed. about a million other things)
that1player
February 28th, 2007, 03:56 pm
Yeah you also have to pay attention to what the conductor is doing. Playing by ear is ok with solo stuff if you have perfect pitch.
SBmocyarpir
March 4th, 2007, 05:56 am
Yeah, I think I have perfect pitch...
Ame_Kangen
March 5th, 2007, 01:05 am
Yeah, I think I have perfect pitch...
Listen to a Paginini Concerto and see if you can play it.(One with a lot of shifts) if you can't that's not perfect pitch but a good ear. It's actually very rare. If you can hear the shifts and notes(including naturals,sharps,flats) That's perfect pitch...if you can that's perfect pitch.
Perfect Pitch-The ability to play by ear after hearing a piece 1-2 times.Identifying all notes correctly and perfect intonation.
SBmocyarpir
March 5th, 2007, 04:35 am
I doubt I have that perfect pitch, then...if you give me a note, I can usually tell what it is...I've figured out that my school bell rings in A flat...
that1player
March 6th, 2007, 03:37 pm
Yeah nice. My friend/stand partner is developing perfect pitch though. It is kind of annoying since he is a perfectionist. He can tell the difference between A 440 and an A 441 and so is always trying to make me play perfectly in tune. oh well.
Ame_Kangen
March 6th, 2007, 08:07 pm
Yeah nice. My friend/stand partner is developing perfect pitch though. It is kind of annoying since he is a perfectionist. He can tell the difference between A 440 and an A 441 and so is always trying to make me play perfectly in tune. oh well.
You can't develop perfect pitch...You have to be born with it. Though I'm thinking that he is born with it since ya know A 440 to A 441...Whoo!And that's the hard thing about strings instruments it can be a little bit wrong a little bit right and on the piano it's either right or wrong...
SBmocyarpir
March 6th, 2007, 10:17 pm
I can *sometimes* tell the difference between A440 and A443...
that1player
March 7th, 2007, 03:34 pm
I think that I have almost perfect pitch. I can tell A440 and A442. I can sometimes tell teh difference between A440 and A442 but rarely. To me, they sound really different. So you have to be born with perfect pitch? If so, how come you really can't tell the difference between A440 and A443 for a while. On piano, it can be wrong if the piano is out of tune.lol
Ame_Kangen
March 8th, 2007, 11:38 pm
Baldwin and Wurlitzers go out so easily. You do have to be born with perfect pitch but I think that you cal tell the defference just becase you've heard it so much. I understand because I'm so used to listening to my tuner when I hear the piano key A I can tell if it's out of tune. Hehe maybe I should become a piano tuner for a concert pianist. They get tuned before every concert and each time is 400 euros....(The euro currency is so confusing next to yen!)
aznanimedude
March 9th, 2007, 02:49 pm
lol perfect pitch talk...yeah perfect pitch is a born ability
now...being able to tell different notes is a different story...perfect pitch is...yeah being able to determine several notes in a piece and be able to play it after only hearing it a few times...anyone can play something after hearing it a million times that's not perfect pitch...like my friend...whom i hate for his perfect pitch XD so awesome to see...
lol ame...euro is waht...about...155 some yen
that1player
March 9th, 2007, 03:59 pm
lol perfect pitch talk...yeah perfect pitch is a born ability
now...being able to tell different notes is a different story...perfect pitch is...yeah being able to determine several notes in a piece and be able to play it after only hearing it a few times...anyone can play something after hearing it a million times that's not perfect pitch...like my friend...whom i hate for his perfect pitch XD so awesome to see...
lol ame...euro is waht...about...155 some yen
Baldwin and Wurlitzers go out so easily. You do have to be born with perfect pitch but I think that you cal tell the defference just becase you've heard it so much. I understand because I'm so used to listening to my tuner when I hear the piano key A I can tell if it's out of tune. Hehe maybe I should become a piano tuner for a concert pianist. They get tuned before every concert and each time is 400 euros....(The euro currency is so confusing next to yen!)
My friend says that he has heard that it can be developed or you can be born with it and he believes it. He said that he used to not be able to tell the difference between A445 and A440. He can also tell you what note a person is playing/ singing when he hears it. He says that he developed pp. He started with trying to sing an A440 the minute he woke up. And at first, he couldn't get it but it later developed. He also tries other notes like G# 445 and he can actually do it! I thought that perfect pitch was also able to play/sing a note on demand at any time.
Ame_Kangen
March 15th, 2007, 01:09 am
Perfect Pitch is the ability to recognize any notes and play/sing them. Like...If you heard a song on the radio or something you could immedeatly play it just like it is. A 440 and A445 sound very different. It's hard when you get in the E because listening to them makes my ears hurt! Sooo high! If I had perfect Pitch I could probably but not sing because I can't even sing the numbers without making a fool of myself!
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