[QUOTE=HopelessComposer;337691]Uhm, "I Hate You," Stfu and gtfo. Could we get a ban over here please?



I agree with you for once. Hay Angellic can we ban this I hate You fool from this area.

Back to the subject:
I do belive that stuff but I don't understand the rest of your writting. Can you explain what you are talking about?

I knew I was going to get banned, but I was just skimming through and seen your post. So, I repeat, I hate you you are going to hell and thanks.




Ok, you guys can ban me now.

As you command :china:

As you command :china:

THANK YOU I'LL LOVE YOU FOREVER.:lol:

Haha, I'm liking M more every day. XD

Looked like fun.

Did you guys change his name when you banned him, or did a non-member lurker with a grudge finally lose his marbles?

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lol, why would they change his name to something so mean? XD
Yeah, he came in here with that name. And who says he was a non-member? Maybe some angry member just made another account to yell at cody without getting in trouble. :heh:

lol, why would they change his name to something so mean? XD
Yeah, he came in here with that name. And who says he was a non-member? Maybe some angry member just made another account to yell at cody without getting in trouble. :heh:
Because its a coward! If they had a problem with me all they had to do is P.M. me. Duh. And whoever that was is realy lost, So I'll pray for that person. Any way this is not the religion thread.

So guys and girls what do you think of people who pray on kid all the time. I kind of ask this question because I have someone stocking me all the time and sends me these crazy letters. One of them said that if she cought me alone she would rape me, suck me me until I passout, and Some other stuff I realy don't like to discuss over the net.
Sorry about the improper English.

How old are you? Is she hot? Go for it!
aaaaaaaaahahaahahahahahahahaha

Dude I have morals.
You go for her, she scares the crap out of me. Plus she said when she is finnished with me, she is going to suck my blood. This girl is a freak.

They say that when vampires suck blood, it's highly pleasurable. GO FOR IT!


All in all, you must remember your age group. The actual odds of kids following through with that is slim to none. They're just looking for your reaction.

Prison, never death

How is death a punishment or deterent. dont states with death sentences still in use have higher crime rates? (feel free to correct me, working on old stuff i was taught). Also they need to repent or atleast be shown that their actions are wrong. Removing people from society and thier regular lives is the best way to do this.
To be honest not all prisons do this effectivly, those portrayed in movies are sometimes out dated and extreme in thier portrail. Then again in effected by media hype on the subject. but i still feel that prison is the best way to punish. dont know about lengths of times though

They say that when vampires suck blood, it's highly pleasurable. GO FOR IT!

Why though? I don't want that to happen. Okay I have a plan I'll pretend I like her and when she moves in on me I sufficate her. I'm just kidding I could never muder anyone I am to loveing.

Why though? I don't want that to happen. Okay I have a plan I'll pretend I like her and when she moves in on me I sufficate her. I'm just kidding I could never muder anyone I am to loveing.

To loving! then give her what she wants. Stalkers should have mental examinations.

To loving! then give her what she wants. Stalkers should have mental examinations.

:lol: :unsure: what is wrong with you people? I'll just play along with her sick game until Iam tired of her.

That would be using her. I think she will only want a small amount of blood, so go have some fun with your new stalker.

Yeah, stalkers are sweet. Just be happy you have someone who thinks so highly of you. Not all people are so lucky!
XD

Maybe we should stop...I have a feeling we're gonna see "Young boy killed by vampire stalker! He was too loveing!!~!" on the news in about a week if we don't. X3

i wish i was cute enough to be stalked <_____<
not really....
and how da heck did vampires get into all of this
*reads*
oh...that's how...well...don't do it, the dark side isn't as nice as they say...it's actually quite damp and easy to get sick XD

oh...that's how...well...don't do it, the dark side isn't as nice as they say...it's actually quite damp and easy to get sick

Vampires enjoy being sick, didn't you learn anything in school!? O:

I've got an even better question.
Wot's dis gotta do wid' Punishing Criminals? :3

Nah man..... don't go along w/ it..... even though vampire like girls are sexy. :heh: (Also likes gothic type girls) What....does she has fangs or something because if not, she's gonna cut you to get to your blood man. :vampire: She'll probably even slip something in your drink or something to make you pass out and have her way w/ you and w/ the way she was talking about, I'm not sure you'll come back and tell us what happened. :\ Sounds like the girl is psycho man so don't do it.... unless you're into getting your blood drained and all. ;)

@methodx: Nothing. Nothing at all. ^_^

@Method:

Well, if Cody gets killed, we can all watch the trial on the news, and discuss it here! :heh:

OKAY. NEW TOPIC!!~!

I was just thinking of Japan, and I came up with this:

How should a man who fondles a random woman on a train be punished? O:
lol, there.

Yes. In fact they are. http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0627/p08s01-woap.html
Though I must say it is a bit unfair. Men actually aren't believed as the reciever of sexual predation, and are certainly always guilty.
You double posted! Speaking of punishing criminals, we must punish you! Get him!
::23 Toshis attack Hopeless::

I think they should lower the age of punishment in japan down even more to 11, for severe crimes. For some reason, I felt like reading articles on murder yesterday. Thus the Nevada-tan set.
If it is asked, I will list several interesting cases that had interesting results or subjects.

Bleh! Disgusting article. I hate when innocent people are punished. And yes, I double posted. I did it for irony! And I'm not sorry!
lol. X3

Oh, also. I'm requesting that you list several interesting articles that had interesting results and/or subjects. O:

=.=
Irony is funny, double posts are just disgusting.
XD Just kidding of course...
That is actual quite a mild article. ::goes back to the really disgusting articles::

If you want to hear something sick...

Let's talk about things that get people life, or public censorship by the government.

Irony is funny, double posts are just disgusting.
blargh! My feelings!
lol.
Yes, let's talk about the most horrible, ridiculous crimes/sentences ever. We'll offend the whole board! XD
Tomorrow though, because I'm going to bed. XP

Let's start with Nevada...

http://nevada.natural20.net/ <<<
An 11 year old girl kills her classmate after seeing a similar situation in the movie Battle Royale and the internet flash red room. She claimed guilty, but the law at that time the law was not established for her age group. It is now at the age 14 as a minimum for serious murder charges. I find that screwed up... Mostly because the length is similar to a high school student incarcerated for trying to poison their classmate with bleach.
Incarcerated until 2013.
One thing that will probably piss off M is that she attributed it to the internet and was diagnosed with hikokimori syndrome.
They really need to change their laws in Japan...

10 year old boy beheads a 14 year-old at a public pool. he places the head outside the pool and threatens people saying he will continue killing. He is set to be released at the age of 21. That is... next year...
That is what brought down the age minimum to 14, besides the 39% raise over the years of juvenile crime in japan similar to these cases.
Other cases with very short release dates...
2-year-old boy in Nagasaki a city just north of Sasebo was accused of kidnapping, molesting and murdering a 4-year-old by shoving him off the roof of a car garage.

In the same month, a 14-year-old boy was arrested for beating a 13-year-old classmate to death in Okinawa.

After so many incidents is it any wonder why they now require counseling in schools?

Don't forget the Otaku Killer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki)

Jesus, those are pretty bad. XP
I never understood this type of thing though:

Throughout the 1990s, Miyazaki remained incarcerated while Saitama Prefecture put him through a battery of psychiatric evaluations, ending with the 1997 conclusion by a team of psychiatrists from Tokyo University that Miyazaki, though suffering from multiple personality disorder and extreme schizophrenia, was still aware of the gravity and consequences of his crimes, and was therefore accountable for them.
If they let some people live after committing things like this, how can the convict anyone? I mean, if you go around murdering and eating little girls, doesn't there have to be something severely wrong with you?

@Method:

Well, if Cody gets killed, we can all watch the trial on the news, and discuss it here! :heh:
Dude that isn't funny at all. Don't say that.:lol:

^lol, well, it wouldn't be funny if you actually died obviously. XD

Any ways back to the main topic.
Honestly I think Miyazaki's punishment was well deserved. He molested the girls corpses and ate portions of his 3rd or 4th victom. Thats realy sick. And then he haves the nerves to send that girl, grinded into ashes, to her parents. How desterbed can you get. This man was crazy, but I kind of understand how he felt when people picked on him when he was young. Still thats no reason to go crazy and become a serial killer.

Thats realy sick.

How desterbed can you get.
Yeah...that's my point.


Still thats no reason to go crazy and become a serial killer.
People don't decide to go crazy. XD

Well in my opinion yes they do because everyone make a choice about everything. For example you chose to post here when their is way more interesting threads around. See my point. I made a choice to post this.
Will someone show my how to spell chose and choice.

Nah man..... don't go along w/ it..... even though vampire like girls are sexy. :heh: (Also likes gothic type girls) What....does she has fangs or something because if not, she's gonna cut you to get to your blood man. :vampire: She'll probably even slip something in your drink or something to make you pass out and have her way w/ you and w/ the way she was talking about, I'm not sure you'll come back and tell us what happened. :\ Sounds like the girl is psycho man so don't do it.... unless you're into getting your blood drained and all. ;)

@methodx: Nothing. Nothing at all. ^_^

I find the concept of girls doing that very sexy.

Will someone show my how to spell chose and choice.
You're spelling them correctly. ;)
And if you ever don't know how to spell a word, just go to www.dictionary.com
It's probably not the most extensive dictionary out there, but it's fast and easy to get to and look things up with. ^_^

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I find the concept of girls doing that very sexy.
lol, somehow that doesn't surprise me. XD

I kind of understand how he felt when people picked on him when he was young. Still thats no reason to go crazy and become a serial killer.
Of course it is! :lol: No honestly, there has to be something more severe than just people picking on you to go "serial killer"-mode. :unsure:

Well, you have to remember he also had no wrists, which must've been rough. So when he was super stressed out he couldn't even really....ah, nevermind. XD

Anyway! That's what I was saying; how can they convict some serial killers, and not others? Doesn't there have to be something deeply wrong with you if you're going around killing people? It amazes me when people say "ah, this person was insane at the time, so it's alright. This guy however, had nothing wrong with him. He has to be executed." That. makes. no. sense!

Well in my opinion yes they do because everyone make a choice about everything. For example you chose to post here when their is way more interesting threads around. See my point. I made a choice to post this.
Will someone show my how to spell chose and choice.

I CHOOSE to be left-handed!
I CHOOSE to be blind!
I CHOOSE to get pushed down the stairs!
I CHOOSE to get murdered!
I CHOOSE to get cancer!

No, the brain doesn't work like that. The body doesn't work like that. Some people have no choice after going over the edge, a lot of people snap. OCD
infuriates people, yet they continue to repeat actions. It isn't about choice Cody. The brain can just skip a beat, or suddenly change itself making people irrational. Sometimes it isn't their fault, but the fault of society. If they are easily influenced, people will act rashly. There isn't anything we can do but find the source and try to remedy it, or let them live their life with it.

What you just gave, was proof that you really need help spelling =)

Nice sarcasm Tanonev... not so eloquent but effective I suppose.

Well in my opinion yes they do because everyone make a choice about everything. For example you chose to post here when their is way more interesting threads around. See my point. I made a choice to post this.
Will someone show my how to spell chose and choice.

People do not just decide to go crazy.
Take your bullshit somewhere else.

Do you really think that Joe Schizophrenia who lives down the street chose to be that way? That one day he up and decided that he wanted to talk the voices in his head, and that he wanted to believe they were real?
So when a homicidal Bob Serial-Killer decids he can't afford a prostitute to satisfy himself, he'd just go down the street, attack the first woman he sees, subsequently rape her and, hell, just for the heck of it, he'd eat her too. Just 'coz he liked the taste of human flesh. Yeah, that coming from the fact that he'd never even tried it before. He likes to try new things.

You'll have to believe that there are people out there with mental conditions. They were born with something out of sorts inside them. They can't tell right from wrong, because in their world, white is black, and black is white, and hell, maybe there's no difference between them after all and everything's just a nice sepia tone.
They didn't choose to see the world that way. While they waited in the womb they didn't pick all their life options like you pick toppings for your pizza. No. Once in a while a baby is born with an extra chromosome and bam, you've got yourself a down syndrome child. Their parents, let alone them, didn't decide as they got in bed together, "Heck, let's just throw in an extra chromosome for the hell of it and let the damned baby sort itself out, bitch." Yes. That seems very reasonable, don't you think?

Do you honestly think that something inside them had come up with a nice logical reason that "Yes. Killing and eating little Sally is a nice idea. What a capital notion." was a good idea? Oh yes. It drips with such logic that even I envy myself.

Well now. Don't you suppose lack of judgment can considered to be a "condition", per se?
It could be caused by one of two things, perhaps more, but nonetheless, it was not to their discretion:
Social conditioning. Maybe his/her parents raised him/her up in such an environment to have properly turned him insane.
Hell, maybe they're a schizo too.
They evidently did not choose to have had either of these circumstances, both being beyond their control. It is something you are born into.

So what do you do with them? Simple.
Why, you send to a correctional facility.
If you can't make them "normal like you", well at any rate, at least they're not out in the public to reign chaos "such as they please", if you will pardon the pun.

Have a good night, Palstine, Texas.
Here's hoping you wake up tomorrow and get yourself some logic.

lol, that was the angriest post I've read in awhile. XD
True though. People don't choose their personalities/conditions Cody. Both are shaped over time. People have no choice in the matter.

I agree. One can't choose where and how and in what condition he grows up.

Just 'coz he liked the taste of human flesh. Yeah, that coming from the fact that he'd never even tried it before. He likes to try new things.
XD

Well in my opinion yes they do because everyone make a choice about everything. For example you chose to post here when their is way more interesting threads around. See my point. I made a choice to post this.
Will someone show my how to spell chose and choice.

I know quoting my own post is weird but thats me.
I went back and studied what I post. I have a change of heart. People can't choose what happens to them but can controle how they react, most of the time.
My friend Sylivia and I do some research on what I posted and found what I said to be wrong. A person can't choose to become insaine, it's a brith defect proven by scientist. However someone can choose to be gay or crazy like some of my friends though.

Nice sarcasm Tanonev... not so eloquent but effective I suppose.

Sorry, I've been really stressed out lately, what with finals and all...

What I was trying to get at, Cody, was that whenever you use the words "every," "none," "always," "never," "all," or the like, you need to make very sure you know what you're saying. A lot of our actions are indeed driven by choice on our part, but certainly not all of them.

The whole "choosing to be gay" debate is a can of worms that we probably shouldn't open up here.

Are we done with this crime? If so, could I bring up the crime of tax evasion? Hopefully there will be no dispute as to whether it's a crime; I'd like to open up a discussion on how it should be punished. (Speaking of which, the range of punishments we hear about nowadays is pretty narrow: probation, community service, fines/restitution, jail time, and death. Would there be any benefit to suggesting new forms of punishment?)

Are we done with this crime? If so, could I bring up the crime of tax evasion? Hopefully there will be no dispute as to whether it's a crime; I'd like to open up a discussion on how it should be punished. (Speaking of which, the range of punishments we hear about nowadays is pretty narrow: probation, community service, fines/restitution, jail time, and death. Would there be any benefit to suggesting new forms of punishment?)[/QUOTE]

Can you give us a web site to find more information?

WTF, Death for TAX evasion 0.0 In England if you refuse to pay then you are put in jail (yes we spend lots of money when a small amount is not payed) or they get a visit from the bailiefs (repo men)

Sorry, the parenthetical stuff was not meant for tax evasion but for all crimes in general. I was saying that I don't think I've heard of any punishment besides those 5 for any crime. I don't think anyone was put to death for tax evasion.

I think tax evasion should be punished by the amount of time and money has been used. If its been years i say years in jail should help that. If its been less, pay back the money you owe with interest. It really just depends on the situation. (Have any of you heard about Wacco(sp?), Texas)

Every crime is subject to some change due to situation XD

that is true

the US as a whole? or just he ones that already accept the death penalty as punishment?

i'd say it's a tough call. true, murdering someone is a horrible HORRIBLE crime, but i wouldn't say killing the murder is just punishment. death for death? not cool.

as for life-sentences, i really wouldn't know how to judge that one. who actually knows what goes on in prisons. seriously, a lot of what we think goes on in there comes from what happens in the movies and on tv series like Prison Break. again, just imho.

WTF, Death for TAX evasion 0.0 In England if you refuse to pay then you are put in jail (yes we spend lots of money when a small amount is not payed) or they get a visit from the bailiefs (repo men)

I don't think Death should be a punishment for tax evasion. I think they should be put into prison only to work off their depts and after they work it off they are released.

I don't think Death should be a punishment for tax evasion. I think they should be put into prison only to work off their depts and after they work it off they are released.

It costs more money to put someone in prison than they will ever make whilst in prison.

Okay. Hay whats whilst in prison? Well whats the next topic gonna be about? I'm not that smart about taxes.

A person in jail/prison will not make much money. To keep a person in prison will cost a lot of money.

Well for get about putting them in jail then. What do you perfer?

Claim the amount owed with extra charges (such as hiring accountants). If they can't pay the cash then sieze the assets and force community service.

Now that sounds good. way better than tourchering them to death.

[:cry: ]


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I agree with HanTony on the tax evading. Simply collect what they owe + extra charges. It definitely isn't worth going to extremes over.

The law should (ideally) punish the crime, and then deter the person that committed the crime from repeating it. But as the crime becomes more severe I think the punishment should also become stronger to, again, act as a deterrent.

but some people dont learn by example or anything you do to them. they just repeat their actions to see how far they can push it without being in prison for a long time.

but some people don't learn by example or anything you do to them. they just repeat their actions to see how far they can push it without being in prison for a long time.

I think that's a part of the life sentence vs. death penalty argument. You have capital punishment being used in instances of very severe crimes, so people know that if they commit a crime like that, they could be punished with death. Yet people still commit those crimes. Or worse, someone is falsely convicted and executed. for the crime allegedly committed. While it may be intended to deter, in practice that doesn't happen. Cost-wise it's also cheaper to keep someone in jail than to execute them, as bad as that sounds to frame punishment in terms of money. :unsure:

Cody, if your English is going to stay horrible as it is, and your posts are going to stay dumb as they are, then please don't torture us with it anymore. We're not criminals you know?

I should say that I was arrested in 6th grade for two acounts of 4th degree assault, but that's all in the past.

I should say that I was arrested in 6th grade for two acounts of 4th degree assault, but that's all in the past.
Assault on whom?

A girl with a little kick..and a guy no physical harm.

A girl with a little kick..and a guy no physical harm.

How can you assault a guy with no phisical harm?

Don't ask it's very disgusting.

It wasn't sexual I'm straight..besides that wouldn't be 4th degree now would it?! Retorical question..


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Don't ask it's very disgusting.
I wasn't where is your mind at? I was asking how did you assault him when you caused no phisical harm to him.

Yeah..it's digusting..like I said

Yeah..it's digusting..like I said

I'm confused, What is disgusting about it? I'm lost.
I guess you can call me somewhat of a criminal because I got kicked off of General discussion. Why, because I am to graphic and sick when I tell stories about myself. No I'm not bragging on myself,I just wanted to let everyone know of my stupidity.

It involved alot of saliva!!There..I really didn't want to say it.

Oh I get it now, don't worry.

We all have our dirty little secrets, the ones that no one else should know about. I can respect that because I have a few of my own, but that's off of the point.

And even though this was a page back, I'll use it. As for capital punishment (death sentence), I only have this to say. We, as a people, have become liars, con men, and murderers ourselves. Now before you say anything, let me finish. Think of your best friend. Now, would you do anything to them if they did something to you, say stole something of yours?

Now, let's delve into our vocabulary and find the word 'evil'. What do you associate with that? Someone dangerous, bad guy that won't care if you're alive or dead. (My thought, to a lesser extent.)

Now, let's go back to your friend. If other people were to name your best friend evil just for that theft, would it make it easier to do something to them (Inflict pain or the like) from their point of view?

Now, whether you answered yes or no, put yourself in that position. You have heard of someone commiting a crime (no preference), and it really offends your sense of morality or whatnot. If they were in prison or had a bad reputation, would it make it easier to call them 'bad' and kill/hurt them? That, in my opinion, is the only reason that anyone can get past the morality that is stuck tightly to our minds and become a murderer. (Which means, for all of those that don't speak english, that you can get over your block to not hurt someone by making them into someone else. If I said that I knew a terrorist and you were very patriotic, could you honestly say that you wouldn't try to do something about it? And you all know what I mean, so don't play dumb.)

If one of my siblings hit me, I would hit them back. It doesn't matter to me what their age, because I can get over the morality of myself and take a swing at them. This may or may not make sense (it's confusing me quite honestly), so I'm sorry if it is a lot to swallow.

We all have our dirty little secrets, the ones that no one else should know about. I can respect that because I have a few of my own, but that's off of the point.

And even though this was a page back, I'll use it. As for capital punishment (death sentence), I only have this to say. We, as a people, have become liars, con men, and murderers ourselves. Now before you say anything, let me finish. Think of your best friend. Now, would you do anything to them if they did something to you, say stole something of yours?

Now, let's delve into our vocabulary and find the word 'evil'. What do you associate with that? Someone dangerous, bad guy that won't care if you're alive or dead. If other people were to name your best friend evil just for that theft, would it make it easier to do something to them from their point of view?

Put yourself in that position. You have heard of someone commiting a crime (no preference), and it really offends your sense of morality or whatnot. If they were in prison or had a bad reputation, would it make it easier to call them 'bad' and kill/hurt/whatever them? That, in my opinion, is the only reason that anyone can get past the morality that is stuck tightly to our minds and become a murderer.

If one of my siblings hit me, I would hit them back. It doesn't matter to me what their age, because I can get over the morality of myself and take a swing at them. THis may or may not make sense (it's confusing me quite honestly), so I'm sorry if it is a lot to swallow.
Well to me its not hard to swallow. You try to difine the word "Evil" but I find it point less. What are you trying to get at?
BTW this isn't Cody at all. He lest his users name open,so I just started to type here.
Oh Cody you realy need to work on you lousy spelling! I hate you, you Stupid self righteous Christian.

Think of your best friend. Now, would you do anything to them if they did something to you, say stole something of yours?
Yeah, I'd ask for my stuff back. ;)

Now, let's delve into our vocabulary and find the word 'evil'. What do you associate with that?
Stupidity, ignorance, pride, etc etc.

Put yourself in that position. You have heard of someone commiting a crime (no preference), and it really offends your sense of morality or whatnot. If they were in prison or had a bad reputation, would it make it easier to call them 'bad' and kill/hurt/whatever them?
I don't think free will exists. I don't feel especially inclined to see anyone killed/hurt/whatevered. ;)

That, in my opinion, is the only reason that anyone can get past the morality that is stuck tightly to our minds and become a murderer.
I don't know what the hell you're trying to say here. Could you phrase it better? Are you saying that to become murderers, we need to not care...about...killing people? Isn't that kind of a given? :heh:

THis may or may not make sense (it's confusing me quite honestly), so I'm sorry if it is a lot to swallow.
It's not a lot to swallow...your post is pretty short. It's just very unorganized and ramblingish, so I can't find what your main point in there is. ^ ^;

Hay Hopeless what if your best friend refuses to give your stuff back? Would you take it by force, humiliate them until they give whats yours back, or just simply say keep it it doesn't mean much to me?
Lost Rain:
It's not that I am lazy reading others post, its when I read post that makes no sence to me, I start to get upset and mean. Next time get to the point so that I don't have to put the puzzle of words together to understand you. After I read your post twice I put two in two togeth I understand what you mean in a way. But don't get the wrong idea I'm still confused a little about your post.

Alright, I'll try to be as nice as I can. First off, for you HopelessComposer, if you can't answer in a straight forward manner, then please don't.

Secondly, I'm sorry that that post came out all... bleah. I was working against the time and I really wanted to get my point out. Sorry.

And thirdly, what I mean when I say 'That, in my opinion, is the only reason that anyone can get past the morality that is stuck tightly to our minds and become a murderer.', is first off, would you kill someone just on a whim? (Let's just pretend we're sane and a good law abiding citizen) I wouldn't kill someone just walking on the side of the road because I felt like it. Now, if you saw Usama Bin-Laden on the side of the road, hitching for a ride, what would you do? (Considering you were really patriotic) I'm not sure if that makes the point any better, but oh well.

Hopeless:
I think he or she lol more mad at you than me for a change.
Anyways Lost Rain I'll answer Hopeless' question. If I seen him on the nside of the road then I personaly would run over him just enough to make him criple, then stop, put him in my vehicle and drive him to the local police station.

Alright, I'll try to be as nice as I can.
Ah, thank you. I appreciate it. I'll try to do the same for you. ;)

First off, for you HopelessComposer, if you can't answer in a straight forward manner, then please don't.
It's pretty hard to answer an unorganized rant in a straight forward manner. Sorry. How would you have had me answer your hundred questions? All at once? If I did that, I'm afraid my answer would have made little sense. :heh:


Secondly, I'm sorry that that post came out all... bleah. I was working against the time and I really wanted to get my point out. Sorry.
Haha, no problem. X3

And thirdly, what I mean when I say 'That, in my opinion, is the only reason that anyone can get past the morality that is stuck tightly to our minds and become a murderer.', is first off, would you kill someone just on a whim? (Let's just pretend we're sane and a good law abiding citizen) I wouldn't kill someone just walking on the side of the road because I felt like it. Now, if you saw Usama Bin-Laden on the side of the road, hitching for a ride, what would you do? (Considering you were really patriotic) I'm not sure if that makes the point any better, but oh well.
Ehh...so, you're saying it's easier to kill people we're conditioned to hate? I'm still not quite grasping what you're trying to say here, sorry. You're saying murderers are in the same bunch as soldiers and such, thought-process wise? Like soldiers learn to forgive themselves for killing people they don't even know? I'm going to guess that's what you're saying.
And...

Now, if you saw Usama Bin-Laden on the side of the road, hitching for a ride, what would you do? (Considering you were really patriotic) I'm not sure if that makes the point any better, but oh well.
I'd kill him obviously. There's a multi-billion dollar reward on his head. I'd kill him out of greed though, not hate. Heh.

I'd kill him obviously. There's a multi-billion dollar reward on his head. I'd kill him out of greed though, not hate. Heh.

Why, that sure says a lot about you then, doesn't it, Hopeless?

Why, that sure says a lot about you then, doesn't it, Hopeless?
Well, it says a bit. I'm cool enough to forgive anyone I meet, but I'm also a greedy bastard.

I dunno, I'd still say I'm doing better than a good number of people out there; I think 99% of Americans would kill Osama and enjoy the act and the money. I'd really be doing it only for the money; killing Osama would be my personal favor to him, as handing him over to the US government alive would be far worse for the poor guy. ;)

I could let him go, but you know, he'd probably end up killing more people.
So really, I'm taking the most moral and enterprising course of action all at once. I'm a genius! ^_^
So after some thought, I revise my original statement! I'd kill him for greed, and compassion!
Heheh.

Compassion towards whom?
Osama, for ending his pitiful life of hatred?
Or the American armies, for ending their pitiful search?

Both. And for me; I've always wanted to be a billionaire. I'm a great guy. XD

That's like asking someone if they would kill Hitler if given the chance.

Killing someone simply because you hate them just seems weird to me. There'd have to be some enormous benefit to either myself or other people to even consider it. So, in a way, I agree with Hopeless.

As for the "If I said that I knew a terrorist and you were very patriotic, could you honestly say that you wouldn't try to do something about it?" question, I would turn you in to the FBI/CIA/other authorities. Not only because I don't want terrorist cells operating in my country, but because you were also dumb enough to tell me that you know a terrorist. Whether you actually know a terrorist or not, in that scenario it's not something to joke about because of the possible consequences.

Unless you're sure I'd rethink that. I mean I am completely for the idea that we should punish those that made false accusations. Your idea of patriotism is kind of shallow and seems like you're being too extreme. I blame all the bad media XD
Rather than create brain dead zombies this newer generation seems to be over zealous war mongers that are overly paranoid and willing to blame others far too readily.

But it happens, KnightXJustice88. And yes, Hopeless, I'm saying that soldiers are even ourselves, to a lesser extent. In video games and cartoons for children, we commonly have a 'bad guy' that they have to defeat to win, or the characters of the show have to beat to save something. It shows up in things as small as that, and that gives us the power to justify killing someone out of a simple word (aka. evil, bad guy, terrorist, etc).

I guess I'm the only weird one here. I simply run over the bastered and injure him greatly. Once that happens, I throw him in the back and drive him to the police station if their was a reward. If not I kill him for my own pleasure and just to say I killed a terrorisst.

Ah, thank you. I appreciate it. I'll try to do the same for you. ;)

It's pretty hard to answer an unorganized rant in a straight forward manner. Sorry. How would you have had me answer your hundred questions? All at once? If I did that, I'm afraid my answer would have made little sense. :heh:


Haha, no problem. X3

Ehh...so, you're saying it's easier to kill people we're conditioned to hate? I'm still not quite grasping what you're trying to say here, sorry. You're saying murderers are in the same bunch as soldiers and such, thought-process wise? Like soldiers learn to forgive themselves for killing people they don't even know? I'm going to guess that's what you're saying.
And...

I'd kill him obviously. There's a multi-billion dollar reward on his head. I'd kill him out of greed though, not hate. Heh.


Dude how do you multi quote like this I tried to do this but end up making two post.AHHHHHHH!
Lost Rain:
I know I don't have much room to talk but PLEASE stop making your post like a puzzle. Its hard to understand you and someone might missunderstand you and start making fun of you. Speeking out of experience, look back on this thread you'll see what I mean.

Unless you're sure I'd rethink that. I mean I am completely for the idea that we should punish those that made false accusations.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. If the person is obviously joking, then there's no need to do anything. My course of action assumes the person is being totally serious and has some sort of evidence to prove their connection.

As for patriotism, I'm not saying that people need to be on the level of fascists in their love/devotion to their country. But as a citizen, I have a responsibility to protect myself and my fellow citizens. I don't see what's shallow or extreme about looking out for the safety of other people. I completely agree with you on the media though. ^_^

Lost Rain, I agree with you that tv, games, movies, etc do desensitize us to the effects and consequences of violence. However, I would make a distinction between beign a soldier and being a murderer. With the exception of any civilian casualties (a sad consequence of the "total war" age), soldiers are taking the lives of people attempting and succeeding in taking the lives of soldiers. In my understanding, taking the lives of anyone you see and taking the life of someone attacking you with the intent to kill is different. Again, this is something people will disagree upon.

I don't disagree with that, I think its very true.

Even a joke can tie up the judicial system, you have to punish those that make false accusations because it also causes trauma for those involved.
It's really hard to tell what is bad and good right now.

Even a joke can tie up the judicial system, you have to punish those that make false accusations because it also causes trauma for those involved.
It's really hard to tell what is bad and good right now.

Yea but their punishment shouldn't be that harsh though. And how do you expect to punish those that make false accusation? Give them a lame fine? Stupid, I just beat the mess out of them, thats fair enough for me.
Sorry I'm in a bad mood a little because this computer is kind of slow.

Lost Rain:
I know I don't have much room to talk but PLEASE stop making your post like a puzzle. Its hard to understand you and someone might missunderstand you and start making fun of you. Speeking out of experience, look back on this thread you'll see what I mean.

First off, out of the irritation that I have had over the day, I'll say this as nicely as I can manage: You really have no right to be telling me anything at this point. I've seen a good number of your posts and I know all that I need to know about you. I can stand people making fun of me, because in the I'll end up getting better at saying what I need to. Use it as an advantage, and everything falls into place.

So in short, please leave my posting out of this. As I said before, I was in a rush against time, so it came out very randomly.

And a piece of advice from me to you, at least my words are actually in the english dictionary instead of being made up because I can't spell for jack. So thank you, but don't.

So you're saying that even though they were willing to send someone to an undeserved punishment they shouldn't be punished in the same way?
It's very messed up =X

If his post is like a puzzle, that is his way to argue.If you don't understand, ask someone for an explanation.

No bashing of one another please

First off, out of the irritation that I have had over the day, I'll say this as nicely as I can manage: You really have no right to be telling me anything at this point. I've seen a good number of your posts and I know all that I need to know about you. I can stand people making fun of me, because in the I'll end up getting better at saying what I need to. Use it as an advantage, and everything falls into place.

So in short, please leave my posting out of this. As I said before, I was in a rush against time, so it came out very randomly.

And a piece of advice from me to you, at least my words are actually in the english dictionary instead of being made up because I can't spell for jack. So thank you, but don't.

You cought me in a bad mood! Now listen, I don't care about your opinion what so ever of me, but out of respect of course you'll get better. And for me I'm working on it. This isn't General Chat you know this is the Punishing criminal thread. Here we talk about criminals and how to deal with them sometimes we just might dicuss whats going on in our countries. Bye!

You cought me in a bad mood! Now listen, I don't care about your opinion what so ever of me, but out of respect of course you'll get better. And for me I'm working on it. This isn't General Chat you know this is the Punishing criminal thread. Here we talk about criminals and how to deal with them sometimes we just might dicuss whats going on in our countries. Bye!

You injuring a criminal is a crime in itself. Vigilante <_<

You injuring a criminal is a crime in itself. Vigilante <_<

Say what?

Google 'vigilante' it's taking the law into your own hands.

Yes in that situation, nothing else.

Not exactly looked at well in the eye of the public, last I recall. Matter of fact, police would be steamed you tried to do there job...

Not exactly looked at well in the eye of the public, last I recall. Matter of fact, police would be steamed you tried to do there job...
I sy we where helping and hurting the police in a sence.

Well, unless you can convince everyone else of that, I don't think they will agree with you. No one likes thinking that someone else can take the law into their own hands. What would happen if everyone thought that? What would be their definintion of justice? I don't know, just a random thought.

War On People I say.

And you would lose miserably.

And then punished by the extent of the law, and then who knows what would happen... Hmmm... oh sorry, I was having a good dream.

We would die.

Cody and Rain have brought up an interesting situation. The proper, peaceful thing to do is to let the court system determine punishments for crime. However, in the news and movies and etc, we see examples of vigilante justice, people deciding that they themselves should be punishing crimes. While in tv and movies it's glorified, in practice, this makes the situation worse. The vigilante throws off the balance and, as has been pointed out, end up being punished for their actions.

We see this as bad, partly because of the concept of the social contract. By entering into society, we (are supposed to) give up our ability to punish transgressions to the government.

Why should we let them decide how to punish people? They should ask the public first the have a vote because the court system is jacked up. If I was the president and shot someone by accident I would get away with it but If I was me and done so, I would get inprisoned. Thats how the USA courts run. Its stupid. We need New judges. LOL Like me.

Why should we let them decide how to punish people? They should ask the public first the have a vote because the court system is jacked up. If I was the president and shot someone by accident I would get away with it but If I was me and done so, I would get inprisoned. Thats how the USA courts run. Its stupid. We need New judges. LOL Like me.

You'd prefere a bunch of 'Rednecks' or people blinded by emotion decide the fate of someone that could possibly be innocent or forced to commit the crime? I wouldn't.

Because if you were allowed to dole out punishment, everything would be burned down within a week. And not just you, but anyone who got that kind of power in their hands. It is not a good thing...

You'd prefere a bunch of 'Rednecks' or people blinded by emotion decide the fate of someone that could possibly be innocent or forced to commit the crime? I wouldn't.
Come to think of it hell to the no. I pick that up from school.:lol:

Cody, i have to disagree. The judicial system is supposed to read the law and determine how it applies. The court is a better system than asking the general public because as Han and Lost have mentioned, the public is emotional, which leads to making bad choices. It's not a perfect system, but that's because it's comprised of people, and people are not perfect beings. I would rather have a judge or jury (preferably both) made up of people that don't personally know anyone involved in a case decide it than...well, the public.

The "public" sits on it's ass watching American Idol and Road Rules all day. The day we let the "public" decide people's fates is the day America explodes. At least with the jury system, we have people that care enough to show up; that's some small sign of intelligence at least.

What about Jury leeches?
Those that go for the benefits?

Plus, many times the jury of peers is ridiculously ignorant. The law states that you cannot say any opinion directly affecting the outcome of the case when called to the stand, but you know most people in a jury expect it to be cut and dry so all they have to do is listen to the pleading of the different witnesses. It's hard to see a full jury that takes the situation completely seriously.

Like stated before, we are flawed. If you can make an android ro something of the like to think through these things logically and effectively, then please go for it. Other than that, we have to believe that it is as good as it can get, at least for the moment. That is what keeps the public 'safe', or at least as best as it can be.

Plus, many times the jury of peers is ridiculously ignorant. The law states that you cannot say any opinion directly affecting the outcome of the case when called to the stand, but you know most people in a jury expect it to be cut and dry so all they have to do is listen to the pleading of the different witnesses. It's hard to see a full jury that takes the situation completely seriously.

Of course juries aren't perfect. I only said they were better than having America text in their votes. :rolleyes:
Maybe juries should consist only of college grads? Doctors? Lawyers? Surgeons?

Why should we let them decide how to punish people? They should ask the public first the have a vote because the court system is jacked up. If I was the president and shot someone by accident I would get away with it but If I was me and done so, I would get inprisoned. Thats how the USA courts run. Its stupid. We need New judges. LOL Like me.

You'd be the lousiest judge ever. You switch opinions more often than John Kerry changing his during the last US President elections, you are too much influenced by your mood, you couldn't spell if your life depended on it and on top of that, you're an idiot.

Not a good judge at all.

If I was the President of a country, I would execute every criminal who had been caught for stealing,murdering,adultery,and other crimes.In that way,there will be lesser crimes and criminals...

Yay, another extremist idiot enters the threat.

Killing everyone isn't really an option, that's what people like Hitler do.

Now your all sounding like 'deathnote' but yeah, cody will never be a president of anything like a country.

Yeah, Light scared me. And I don't think that we need a physical embodiment of that particular character. And Angelic, I agree with you completely on the judge statement.

If I was the President of a country, I would execute every criminal who had been caught for stealing,murdering,adultery,and other crimes.In that way,there will be lesser crimes and criminals...
There still would be crime any way. As I read on this post long ago, more people die over suicied, crashed, drugs, drinking, and smoking.

Well... maybe some of the fanatics are just joking, I know I wasn't serious about my proposed plan to end obesity by putting automated turrets on street corners, forcing people to run or be killed.

I kind of like that plan though Toshihiko. Our race would evolve into a bunch of super acrobatic ninjas! Or we'd all die. = \

I think it's worth the risk though.

Hmm, might be worth living to see, eh?

Yea right, get a hold of your selves. People these days.

They're called "jokes" Cody. :rolleyes:

Well, nothing against Cody, but he doesn't quite grasp the idea of 'joke'... I don't think he catches a lot, actually...

Anyway, it would still be nice to have that added feature. Turn 12 and have your mom go, "Alright now, you have ninja skills! Now go and fight evil!!!" :heh:

I get it was a joke.
Anyways, how should our courts or justice system punish people who fraud?

fraud what?

fraud what?

People who fake like their someone else when doing something. No that doesn't sound right, I think People who right hot checks. AHHHH! Still not right, someone help me explain this.

I know what the word "fraud" means. You've just illustrated the problem: "fraud" as a crime can have like 50 meanings. I'm asking you which one you're talking about.

I know what the word "fraud" means. You've just illustrated the problem: "fraud" as a crime can have like 50 meanings. I'm asking you which one you're talking about.

Anyone of them, it dosn't matter.

Some of them are a lot worse than others. :heh:

Let's go with what seems to be the biggest worry currently: identity theft.

That's not that big unless it's large scale.
An identity can be bought online for around $500
And minor identity theft spyware for about $60
So what sort of usage of stolen identity or to what extent?

I agree, identity theft is not a large scale problem. This can be solve easily by getting everyone's genetic information but that brings another stupid ethical debate.

I agree, identity theft is not a large scale problem. This can be solve easily by getting everyone's genetic information but that brings another stupid ethical debate.

We won't even get to the ethical debate; we'll be stopped at the feasibility level. Do you honestly think we could provide a DNA sample every time we wanted to pay for our groceries with a credit card? How do you plan on sending such a sample over the Internet for a Paypal purchase?

Without a physical sample, "genetic information" is just another identification number. Even with physical samples, if you're going to create a nationwide database of DNA identification and have it accessible to private companies, you're just begging for someone to start up a sham company to harvest all that data and wreak havoc on the system.

And as for the scale, I'd hazard a guess that identity theft affects many more victims for a greater sum of financial and emotional loss than, say, chainsaw-wielding serial killers. But would we claim that a chainsaw-wielding serial killer is not a big deal?

In any case, the issue with identity theft is not punishing the thief; the problem is finding the thief in the first place.

^ good point. >.< Suddenly see the severity of it. It can easily affect any online users and stolen identity can be used for committing crime under another's name, stealing property and money, illegal migration,blackmail etc. Okay, I take back my point. It can be reduced with less purchases through internet and avoiding online banking but yes, I do see your argument that the punishment isn't the main concern but rather actually finding the criminal.

Then how do we find the criminal who commited identity theft or what ever? Don't respond saying technology or DNA.

Then how do we find the criminal who committed identity theft or what ever? Don't respond saying technology or DNA.Well, if we can't use technology to find the criminals, I guess we should... let the criminals roam free? What do you propose?

In the UK it was anounced today that the prisons are at maximum capacity so a mass reform will be drawn up concentrating on rehabilitation and community service.

In the UK it was announced today that the prisons are at maximum capacity so a mass reform will be drawn up concentrating on rehabilitation and community service.Well, there is a shortage of cadavers here in the UK to teach our future doctors with, why don't we... :shifty:

Human lab (rats)!

Well, if we can't use technology to find the criminals, I guess we should... let the criminals roam free? What do you propose?

I'm going to guess that Cody meant he wanted more than a 1-word explanation, not that he didn't believe technology was a valid solution.

Most identity thieves get away with what they do because they jump country lines, leave no physical trails, etc. There simply aren't enough resources to handle every case of identity theft. As for those that are handled, luck plays a large role. If an identity thief forgets to shred some document, that's one piece of evidence that the police can use to track them. (Basically, once an identity thief makes a slip-up of the same kind as the ones they use to steal other people's identities, police can catch onto them. This is probably an oversimplification, though, so take this with a grain of salt.)

Some identity thieves may be attempting to steal large numbers of identities, which would make them vulnerable to someone putting up "bait" information.

Credit card companies can trace transactions fairly easily. (Obviously, all transactions have to get sent to them for approval.) If your credit card suddenly shows a $500 charge from a store in the next state, then that gives police a starting point. Note: if that same $500 charge came from, say, Egypt, probably nothing will get done because it will cost way more than $500 to even begin the search.

Well, there is a shortage of cadavers here in the UK to teach our future doctors with, why don't we... :shifty:

I'm sorry but that is rediculous. I tell you you why, it's because its stupid. Thats like me trying to sell candy for $1000.00 each.

I'm sorry but that is rediculous. I tell you you why, it's because its stupid. Thats like me trying to sell candy for $1000.00 each.

"The sky is blue...because it's blue! And because it's not yellow!"

liek srsly!

"The sky is blue...because it's blue! And because it's not yellow!"

Actualy the sky is blue because the reflection of the water in atmosphere.

Actualy the sky is blue because the reflection of the water in atmosphere.
That's not true O:
Also, water isn't blue...the oceans and such look blue because of our blue sky. ;)

lmao ;x

I figure That I post something that makes sence for once. Have you heard about the 49 year old man who worked at Elkhart school? If not, Steven Anthony Rose was arrested on Friday around 9 P.M. for a first degree felony offense of aggravated sexual assuault on a 7 year old boy. Mr. Rose is being held at Anderson County Jail in lieu of a $ 76,000 bond. Records show that he was convicted in 1980 for indecency with a child 25-yrs ago. He spent 4 years in jail.
His punishment should be more harsh sence he has already done two sexual crimes that we know of. I think they should raise his bond to $150,000 and inprisoned for 35 years. What do you think about the story? Tell why or why not you agree with my opinion and state your own opinion about it.

Sorry I double posted the same thing.

I figure That I post something that makes sence for once. Have you heard about the 49 year old man who worked at Elkhart school? If not, Steven Anthony Rose was arrested on Friday around 9 P.M. for a first degree felony offense of aggravated sexual assuault on a 7 year old boy. Mr. Rose is being held at Anderson County Jail in lieu of a $ 76,000 bond. Records show that he was convicted in 1980 for indecency with a child 25-yrs ago. He spent 4 years in jail.
His punishment should be more harsh sence he has already done two sexual crimes that we know of. I think they should raise his bond to $150,000 and inprisoned for 35 years. What do you think about the story? Tell why or why not you agree with my opinion and state your own opinion about it.

C&P? XD
I don't know that his punishment should be made more harsh. I do know that this man obviously has a problem and that the punishment he's been dealt twice already has done nothing to help him. So perhaps a different sort of punishment is in order?

C&P? XD
I don't know that his punishment should be made more harsh. I do know that this man obviously has a problem and that the punishment he's been dealt twice already has done nothing to help him. So perhaps a different sort of punishment is in order?

What do you perfer? I thought this one out before I posted so I am prepared to answer some statements.

I don't know what I prefer, as I don't know what kind of treatment he has already gone through while in prison during his last two sentences.

Well if anyone has any type of case they want to share, please share it.

I know this is an old thread, but I noticed someone thought prostitution should be illigal.
I think they should not be punished in anyway. I say that because some girls even guys have a hard time makking friends. The only way one thinks is how they act. The only way I get draw people to me it to lead them on. I don't injoy it, but to me, thats the only way people talk to me. It is sad because all guys want from fine girls such as myself is sex. they have no self respect towards a female.

I would just like to inform you that nothing you stated proved your argument, nor made sense.

And also, if you've not noticed, this thread is called "Punishing Criminals", as opposed to "Discussing the Legality of Miscellaneous Unnamed Activities". If you would like to discuss the legality of prostitution, please make another thread in the General Discussion. If you would like to discuss whether/how prostitutes should be punished, by all means chat on.

Despite its, er, creator, I think this thread has a point. =\

I read something about two men who were executed. One was for killing a cab driver and the other for being the get away driver in a killing. They both did their crimes sometime in 1996 or so- and they were put to death. Here's the thing, who picks the priorities to these executions? Like Richard Ramirez, it has been more than 20 years, more like going on 30, and he is still alive and in Death Row. Where is the justice in taking the life of someone who committed a serious but more petty crime (in comparison to Ramirez) so soon, and yet letting a man who terrorized California for so long in such a brutal way, still live, get married, and practically reach celebrity status?

I didn't know if this should be a new thread or not.

I know this is an old thread, but I noticed someone thought prostitution should be illigal.
I think they should not be punished in anyway. I say that because some girls even guys have a hard time makking friends. The only way one thinks is how they act. The only way I get draw people to me it to lead them on. I don't injoy it, but to me, thats the only way people talk to me. It is sad because all guys want from fine girls such as myself is sex. they have no self respect towards a female.

Wow you managed to call yerself fine and make the most sexist statement in the thread all in one phrase.

You stupid bitch, no matter how fine you are if yer as dumb as you look you'll be nothing more than a one time cum bucket for any guy who takes the time to cater to your ego. Men are not dick minded idiots, not all of us are 12 yearold dumbasses like the type you seem to hang around. Seriously get over yourself and get it straight.


@Cody/HC argument.

Note HC, he has only been punished once, has commited 2 sexual felonies but has only been punished for one (unless I misunderstand the C+P he has not yet been tried for the second, more recent one)

As I read that article I thought two things, 1. Cut that dumbasses dick off, 2. Throw him in jail till he rots. However..that might not be the right way to approach this (..not saying it isnt either :shifty:) Jail could do one of two things for this man (in...grossly simplified terms) 1. Help him "get better" or atleast socialy acceptable (M better not come question the concept of "socialy acceptable") or serve as a hole where he can beat his meat about the next kid hes gonna touch.

I agree with HC, perhaps we should be thinking not "how long" to punish someone, but which type of punishment would be best suited to help the offendant "ease back into society"..and in the worst of cases how to keep him from society.

@Luis: Demonking is Cody. = \

And I also agree with myself, heheh. X3

what a loser HC I am not this demonking bitch for the millionth time.
Though it might lead to me it is not me. I can prove it somehow, I will.

@ Luis:

I don't think he should be charged anyting but a kick in the ass or maybe getting beat over the head with a rose steam.

That sounds like it would be a reward to some people :)

??? sorry.

[QUOTE=Luis;378496]Wow you managed to call yerself fine and make the most sexist statement in the thread all in one phrase.

I dont like your attitude towards me! It's very hurtful and rude.


To Hopelesscomposer:
Your suspicion on me being Cody is very wrong. I do not like being called something I am no. Stop harassing me with all your lies.

Explanations:

Cody set this account up for me when I went to his house. He knows everything except my password. So he can't be on my account therefore.
When I first started on ichigos, I sighned Cody up on my account and I watched him Post in the introdution thread and the vampire thread. Those were the only time Cody was ever on my account. All the rest were me.

[QUOTE=Luis;378496]Wow you managed to call yerself fine and make the most sexist statement in the thread all in one phrase.

I dont like your attitude towards me! It's very hurtful and rude.


To Hopelesscomposer:
Your suspicion on me being Cody is very wrong. I do not like being called something I am no. Stop harassing me with all your lies.

Explanations:

Cody set this account up for me when I went to his house. He knows everything except my password. So he can't be on my account therefore.
When I first started on ichigos, I sighned Cody up on my account and I watched him Post in the introdution thread and the vampire thread. Those were the only time Cody was ever on my account. All the rest were me.

I respond in the manner in which I am spoken to.
So...get over it. My previous statement stands, heed its advice lest I should say "I told you so :P"

I was nice talking to you and you cracked off on me in a rude manner.

Stay on topic...somehow

Do you think that blackmail should be put up with on ichigos?
What actions should The admins take if other members try to black mail another member?

Torture followed by pain of death.

(In America, that's called aggressive reasoning followed by liberation.)


On a more serious and realistic note, whenever some moron decides to blackmail or commit some related misdeed on these forums, they usually get ostracized and flamed into oblivion by our more reasonable population.

Whats your point? It dosn/t answer any of thequestions I asked.

Sure it does.

Ahh, how do I say this.. Your questions are immaterial. In regards to blackmail, this is how it is essentially.

When is blackmail ever put up with? It's a silly question. When it all comes down to it, the members can take care of the blackmailer. Most of us have a moral code that portrays blackmailing and general bullshitting as not to be tolerated. The Administration doesn't need to get involved. The way I see it, not only Administration is responsible for keeping order, but the community itself is partially responsible. We all have the moral obligation to act reasonably and with common sense. Angelic (he's an admin) might verbally beat the crap out of you, knowing him and his nature (ask Cody), but that's all. If it gets out of hand, he might ban you. But he doesn't have to. We can all be vigilantes, so to speak. You see what I'm trying to get at?

Oh, and define blackmail prz.

I could elaborate, but my mind is like porridge tonight, I can't get myself straight and no, I really do not want to deal with you right now, so — GOOD DAY SIR.

Besides, cyber-bullying is hardly a hardcore enough crime in need of a real prosecution.
Let's talk rapists or something.

I know this is an old thread, but I noticed someone thought prostitution should be illigal.
I think they should not be punished in anyway. I say that because some girls even guys have a hard time makking friends. The only way one thinks is how they act. The only way I get draw people to me it to lead them on. I don't injoy it, but to me, thats the only way people talk to me. It is sad because all guys want from fine girls such as myself is sex. they have no self respect towards a female.

1) If you are like you profile says (6'2'', 10 waist size and in middle school), you are in no way "fine". You are a stick, more like a long thin metal pole. If you look like that, and still think you are "fine", it is no wonder you have to "lead on" guys.
2) "The only way one thinks is how they act." Everybody thinks and acts differently (well..except you I guess). People don't just think of things and act upon it. Believe me, if I acted upone every thought that popped into my head, I'd be on death row.
3) "It is sad because all guys want from fine girls such as myself is sex." That whole statement is false. Every part of it.




I dont like your attitude towards me! It's very hurtful and rude.


I was nice talking to you and you cracked off on me in a rude manner.

The only statement I give is that your ignorance is painful.


Do you think that blackmail should be put up with on ichigos?
What actions should The admins take if other members try to black mail another member?

Black mail on a forum? How does that work? I can't even think of an example. If there possibly is one, just ignore it? It's a forum kid, this shouldn't be your life.

ANYWAYS
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Personally, I don't think we human beings have the right to take away the life of another, unless they are endangering our own lives. I don't believe in the death penalty, personally I think life imprisonment is a better punishment. Let the criminal ponder for the rest of his life on what he did.

As for prostitution, the most I think they should do is lock em up for a night. They are just trying to make enough money to buy another whore-perfume bottle, leave em be.

Dude that was the rudest statments I have every heard. I can belive you just said that about one of my friends. She is a liar she is only like five inches taller than me.
I don't think that blackmailing should be put up with, but sometimes thats the only way to get what you want though. As far as the whole death pentalty thing, I disagree. I think on should be put to death if they kill over 20 people in there life time. Kind of stupid though.

Hey Cody. I'mgoing to kill the 19 most precious people that you will ever know, then sit in a cosy prison cell raping my bitch each night for 20 years.

Sickness will currupt your heart.

Now it sounds like you smite me or will be putting a curse on my soul. for that IU hope you catch a cold this weekend! :P

off topic!

I'm debating a point of view.

I don't understand.

What is blackmail anyways? thats when you use a threat to get what you want, right?

When does one understand :\
Heck. For all I know everything that you read is manipulated into what you want to see. Maybe you could go watch some films such as The Boondock Saints.

:smartass::vampire::death::scream::kfreaked::ranti ng:
be careful

Cody, you seem to be having troubles understanding English. Let me tell you a good thing to keep with you. It's called a Dictionary (http://m-w.com). Now stop asking about simple things and assemble them yourself. If you still don't get what I'm saying, then I suggest you go to a forum more at your intelligence level.

Cody, you seem to be having troubles understanding English. Let me tell you a good thing to keep with you. It's called a Dictionary (http://m-w.com). Now stop asking about simple things and assemble them yourself. If you still don't get what I'm saying, then I suggest you go to a forum more at your intelligence level.

I know how much a pain Cody can be. But He likes you and you should treat him with respect. If you have such a problem with him, you should teach him. Since you are older than both of us. I know he is an idiot but he only acts that way because he don't know how to make friends.

Personally, I don't think we human beings have the right to take away the life of another, unless they are endangering our own lives. I don't believe in the death penalty, personally I think life imprisonment is a better punishment. Let the criminal ponder for the rest of his life on what he did.

As for prostitution, the most I think they should do is lock em up for a night. They are just trying to make enough money to buy another whore-perfume bottle, leave em be.

So..if a guy has a gun pointed at my daughter...I cant shoot and kill him can I?

I know how much a pain Cody can be. But He likes you and you should treat him with respect. If you have such a problem with him, you should teach him. Since you are older than both of us. I know he is an idiot but he only acts that way because he don't know how to make friends.

"There is no excuse for ignorance."

"There is no excuse for ignorance."
Sure there is. It's called idiocy! :3

So..if a guy has a gun pointed at my daughter...I cant shoot and kill him can I?

Why would you ever shoot to kill? Is injuring him with the intent that he survives not enough? Do you have to go for the kill?

If your not a good enough shot, or feel you are to short of time to aim. You have no real options, providing you carried a gun in the first place ._.

Even so, if your intent is still to injure him and not kill, are you at fault?

In terms of that, I believe you only have to neutralize/disarm the threat, as long as you don't kill him, I think you're safe...in a manner of speaking

I'm pretty sure that if someone has a gun pointed at your daughter, and you murder him, it'd be justifiable homicide.

Many states agree that it may be lawful for a citizen to repel violence with violence to protect his or her own or another's life and limb, or to prevent sexual assault or damage to valuable property. However, there is less agreement on the extent to which it is ever justifiable to kill the attacker. There are usually tests based on the proportionality of the response to the attack. Thus, there may be exculpation if the level of force used in defense matches the force threatened and the "winner" of the conflict first retreated or showed a clear intention not to fight (assuming this was possible in the time available).
Hurray for google and wiki, solver of 99% of our problems.

I do not have kids or anything, but I do know that if someone ever was to put one of my friends in that position, I would do everthing to save them. Even if it meant killing them.

To save you, I shall kill you.

Why are you so mean?

Your a demon, your previous statement was poorly said and I am cold hearted, metaphoricaly.

Even so, if your intent is still to injure him and not kill, are you at fault?

No if it is to proctect one's life.

Your a demon
lmao. XD

Three days ago I went to another city. There it was kind of creepy but I enjoyed the lake behind the house I was staying at.There are these groups mentaly sick people who slay cats with a sword by cutting them in two peices then gutting them. After they are finnished doing that, they take the remains of the cats and put them on the golf course.

That Is very sick. I love cats alot. What do you think about this group of people?

I don't want to be a jerk here, but... what the hell is up with that question? Do you think anyone here is going to reply by saying "Hey, I slay cats with swords all the time (and of course play around with their guts), it is, after all, completely normal to slay cats with swords. I'd in no way call it despicable! In fact, I'd like to join that group!".
Here are a few thoughts on the matter at hand:

1) The question is superfluous. Since the answers of the other members are obvious.
2) The story sounds soooo fake, that it could almost qualify for being in the public "sensationalist" media.
3) What the hell??
4) Punishing Criminals Thread...? Of topic?
5) I love cats as well.

Did I forget to mention anything?

I don't want to be a jerk here, but... what the hell is up with that question? Do you think anyone here is going to reply by saying "Hey, I slay cats with swords all the time (and of course play around with their guts), it is, after all, completely normal to slay cats with swords. I'd in no way call it despicable! In fact, I'd like to join that group!".
Here are a few thoughts on the matter at hand:

1) The question is superfluous. Since the answers of the other members are obvious.
2) The story sounds soooo fake, that it could almost qualify for being in the public "sensationalist" media.
3) What the hell??
4) Punishing Criminals Thread...? Of topic?
5) I love cats as well.

Did I forget to mention anything?
Matt is officialy on my buddy list :lol:

I don't want to be a jerk here, but... what the hell is up with that question? Do you think anyone here is going to reply by saying "Hey, I slay cats with swords all the time (and of course play around with their guts), it is, after all, completely normal to slay cats with swords. I'd in no way call it despicable! In fact, I'd like to join that group!".
Here are a few thoughts on the matter at hand:

1) The question is superfluous. Since the answers of the other members are obvious.
2) The story sounds soooo fake, that it could almost qualify for being in the public "sensationalist" media.
3) What the hell??
4) Punishing Criminals Thread...? Of topic?
5) I love cats as well.

Did I forget to mention anything?
Oh, come on now. Stop trying to sound cool Matt.
Are you honestly trying to tell me that you didn't go around slaying cats with swords and then throwing their guts onto golf courses when you were a little kid? I pity you for having had such a boring, cold childhood.

You know what they say, cat-slaying develops character. :)

Here~ Kitty kitty kitty. Where~ are~ you~ methkitty~

You know what they say, cat-slaying develops character. :)
yeah, it's good for your socialising skills. It's a group activity after all. :3

And it promotes the development of group skills. :]

:topic:

EDIT: Y'all are probably going to yell at me for that, but what the hey.

What punishment shall I enforce onto the off topic people :shifty:

What punishment shall I enforce onto the off topic people :shifty:

None, since you have no authority to do that.