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Cinderella
January 1st, 2007, 06:23 pm
Am I the only one upset at the death of the movie musical in the 1970s? I certainly hope not. Musicals were one of the great genres, producing such classics as The Wizard of Oz, My Fair Lady, Mary Poppins, and The Sound of Music.

Nowadays, it's extremely rare to see a musical, let alone a good one. The last really good on screen musical was Chicago and that was back in 2002! True, it did sweep the awards, but it was the first musical to win "Best Picture" since Oliver.

Musicals are a huge part of American history. Without them, there'd be no "Ding dong the witch is dead," "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" or "Rain in Spain."

When you consider the impact of musicals on the world, it's appalling that there aren't more today. The Wizard of Oz was named "Best American Film" by a group of critics, and Mary Poppins has never been out of print on video.

So is anyone out there for the revitalization of the movie musical?

deathraider
January 1st, 2007, 08:18 pm
Wizard of Oz the best American film? I don't think so! Musicals ARE however important. You're right, there aren't a lot of new musicals coming out lately. Maybe you should write one.

Neko Koneko
January 2nd, 2007, 10:56 am
I really don't like musical films. Musicals should be on stage in my opinion.

SBmocyarpir
January 6th, 2007, 05:13 am
I really don't like musical films. Musicals should be on stage in my opinion.

Ditto.

RD
January 6th, 2007, 06:45 am
Wizard of Oz the best American film? I don't think so! Musicals ARE however important. You're right, there aren't a lot of new musicals coming out lately. Maybe you should write one.

High School Musical anyone? lol

Musicals have had a big impact, but I doubt any of them would be considered the best movie so far. Lord of the Rings trilogy has taken that spot up by many critics...

Cinderella
January 6th, 2007, 07:56 pm
Musicals have had a big impact, but I doubt any of them would be considered the best movie so far. Lord of the Rings trilogy has taken that spot up by many critics...

What has become more a part of our society? "Ding dong the witch is dead," "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" "follow the Yellow Brick road" or some lame CGI from something that's only being acclaimed because of the book?

I thought so.

I'd go so far as to say musicals are the best genre. They've produced such classics. An adaptation of "Pygmalion," numerous adaptations of children's books, original musicals etc.

And I thought that "The Godfather" was supposed to be the best film ever. I don't think so. (Haven't seen it....)

Besides, many musicals have two very important things going for them: Julie Andrews and Judy Garland.

M
January 7th, 2007, 12:22 am
I believe that musicals should stay where they are rooted: The Stage. Sure, a video—which I'm assuming this is the media you are talking about when you say "musical", because Broadway is still bountiful with them—gets it out to a greater crowd, and it is cheaper, but I also feel that you lose something when you do a recording of it. There's some sort of magic in the air when you watch someone on stage preforming live, even more so for the person doing the performance. So I guess I'm with SB and Angelic.

meim
January 7th, 2007, 01:50 am
I watched all the classics mentioned. Though I quite enjoy movie musicals, I just don't think everyone likes that sort of thing. If it is in the movies, I don't think it has international appeal, I think. I've never watched a stage musical!

Fi-chan
January 7th, 2007, 04:19 pm
I believe that musicals should stay where they are rooted: The Stage. Sure, a video—which I'm assuming this is the media you are talking about when you say "musical", because Broadway is still bountiful with them—gets it out to a greater crowd, and it is cheaper, but I also feel that you lose something when you do a recording of it. There's some sort of magic in the air when you watch someone on stage preforming live, even more so for the person doing the performance. So I guess I'm with SB and Angelic.

so true. Nothing can beat the live orchestra, singing, and the amazing choreography of the whole live show! I love musicals, particularly if they're in the theatre, rather not on DVD....

Noir7
January 7th, 2007, 05:00 pm
I think Broadway is awkward most of the time. I liked Phantom of the Opera, the film version. Actors, great. Music, waaay better than stage versions. I'm all for musical films. As long as they're good, I see no reason why not to include them on the big screen.

SBmocyarpir
January 8th, 2007, 03:45 am
I believe that musicals should stay where they are rooted: The Stage. Sure, a video—which I'm assuming this is the media you are talking about when you say "musical", because Broadway is still bountiful with them—gets it out to a greater crowd, and it is cheaper, but I also feel that you lose something when you do a recording of it. There's some sort of magic in the air when you watch someone on stage preforming live, even more so for the person doing the performance. So I guess I'm with SB and Angelic.

Sweet, I have a nickname! XD

I've only seen a few live musicals in my short life (the most recent one being my school's production of Hello Dolly), but I know they're a lot more fun than just watching a movie. When I see a movie, I usually want to see a cool action/sci-fi film. But when I see a play...it's not that fun unless everyone starts singing. It's just something about seeing it live that makes it not seem dumb that a bunch of random people are singing a song that they apparently haven't rehearsed at all(not the actors, the characters).

RD
January 12th, 2007, 06:01 am
What has become more a part of our society? "Ding dong the witch is dead," "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" "follow the Yellow Brick road" or some lame CGI from something that's only being acclaimed because of the book?

I thought so.

No, the movie is highly acclaimed because of its standard setting cinematography AND what you said, cgi. The story is very epic, so epic even Stanley Kubrick has turned down the idea of making the movie. Peter Jackson made an instant classic.

I don't really like musicals as much as "traditional" films. They tend to be overly happy, and when they aren't they are usually very good [Phantom? yes].

Neko Koneko
January 12th, 2007, 09:44 am
Besides, many musicals have two very important things going for them: Julie Andrews and Judy Garland.

I've seen far prettier and better acting women playing in films, really.

Cinderella
January 12th, 2007, 04:07 pm
I've seen far prettier and better acting women playing in films, really.

Blasphemy. Julie and Judy stole their voices from angels.

Milchh
January 13th, 2007, 02:12 am
The only 'musical' I've only liked is The Phantom of The Opera.

Everything else sucks imo.

Neko Koneko
January 16th, 2007, 11:02 am
Supercali's a musical fanboy of the Naruto kind :mellow: biased and dead set on getting their point across and everyone who disagrees should be in a mental hospital.

Cinderella
January 17th, 2007, 12:13 am
Supercali's a musical fanboy of the Naruto kind :mellow: biased and dead set on getting their point across and everyone who disagrees should be in a mental hospital.

While I give the thumbs up to bashing "Narutards", I disagree that I'm that bad.

True, I'm quite opinionated, but people haven't really presented arguments.

M
January 17th, 2007, 12:23 am
Well the whole argument is that you're comparing musicals to movies. In my book they're as similar as apples to oranges.

Cinderella
January 17th, 2007, 01:00 am
Well the whole argument is that you're comparing musicals to movies. In my book they're as similar as apples to oranges.

Movie musicals are a type of movie. They have their own section in the Golden Globes (almost).

They are different from each other, but a movie is a movie.

M
January 17th, 2007, 01:30 am
:)

Well then, Using that logic:

A language is a language, even though Japanese uses a different writing script than Latin, and the fact that there are several phonetics that exist in English that is non-existent in Japanese. But they're both still a language. Each word carries a meaning. Or, if you prefer an off-beat example, Basketball and Musicals are the same. I mean, they're both entertainment, you watch them. Heck you eat popcorn at both!

Even though there are similarities, they are not the same. Therefore, you cannot think the same; this is what you cannot see! The differences between a movie and a musical movie. You feel that they are equal, when, in fact, they are different.


And don't get me wrong. I do like musicals, but like my first post, so I will reiterate, I feel that the movie screen ruins them. How can you take something that was meant to be preformed on stage, and put it on a screen? Not only is the 4d film lossy to 2d, but it also loses the power of the stage.

This is why musicals still exist on broadway, and have vanished from the big screen.

Cinderella
January 17th, 2007, 01:40 am
:)

Well then, Using that logic:

A language is a language, even though Japanese uses a different writing script than Latin, and the fact that there are several phonetics that exist in English that is non-existent in Japanese. But they're both still a language. Each word carries a meaning. Or, if you prefer an off-beat example, Basketball and Musicals are the same. I mean, they're both entertainment, you watch them. Heck you eat popcorn at both!

Even though there are similarities, they are not the same. Therefore, you cannot think the same; this is what you cannot see! The differences between a movie and a musical movie. You feel that they are equal, when, in fact, they are different.


And don't get me wrong. I do like musicals, but like my first post, so I will reiterate, I feel that the movie screen ruins them. How can you take something that was meant to be preformed on stage, and put it on a screen? Not only is the 4d film lossy to 2d, but it also loses the power of the stage.

This is why musicals still exist on broadway, and have vanished from the big screen.

Okay, I get your point. *bohaha*

Yes there is power on stage, but some things' movies are better than their stage productions. It's the original that's better, not the stage.*pokes Mary Poppins*

Neko Koneko
January 17th, 2007, 10:14 am
Point is though... instead of arguing about what's better we could just use this topic for discussing music movies instead :) Even though in general I prefer my films without singing (I hated that about Disney films too), I really love Phantom of the Opera (though Emmy Rossum is a lousy actor and her face is stuck in a :o position all the time) and Jesus Christ Superstar. Thing I like about JCS is that it's more of a stage thing recorded on video than an actual movie, yet it's more of a movie than just a recorded stage musical. Makes sense? x_x It's somewhere in the middle between stage and movie musical.

SBmocyarpir
January 24th, 2007, 07:22 pm
Yeah, why do we need to argue? Supercali, I can kind of relate your obsession with musicals with my obsession with game shows, so I see how you feel.

Anyway, Phantom of the Opera is probably my favorite movie musical, but I also loved Chicago. I was also obsessed with Mary Poppins when I was around 5 years old. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious was one of the first words I learned how to spell, and I think I wanted to change my name to Mary at one point...

Maybe I should make a topic about game shows...I'm just afraid no one will post in them...