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Noir7
January 29th, 2007, 09:46 pm
Use this thread as an application for the following fields. You can sign for multiple tasks, as long as you're committed! When you apply, use "Forum nickname - Field to work in".

Project Leader
Composer
Story Writer

--- Candidates ---

SirDotDotDot - Project Leader
Ajamesu - Project Leader

Noir7 - Composer
One_Winged - Composer
SirDotDotDot - Composer
PorscheGTIII - Composer
Deathraider - Composer
Mazeppa - Composer
Maestrosetti - Composer
KaitouKudou - Composer
PFK - Composer


Deathraider - Story Writer
Random_Tangent - Story Writer
Inu-chan - Story Writer
KaitouKudou - Story Writer
Meim - Story Writer
Jaso - Story Writer
Radical Dreamer - Story Writer
PFK - Story Writer

Sir_Dotdotdot
January 29th, 2007, 09:59 pm
Sir Dotdotdot - Composer or Project Leader

:P I don't really mind which role to take, as long as I don't need to write the story (yes, I am a horrible writer).

PorscheGTIII
January 29th, 2007, 10:29 pm
PorscheGTIII - Composer

I can do any busy work or work with anyone co-operatively. ^_^

deathraider
January 29th, 2007, 11:57 pm
I can help with story or composing, whichever you think I would be best suited for.

deathraider - composer and/or writer

Milchh
January 30th, 2007, 12:35 am
Mazeppa - Composer

(Like I said, I'll see what I can do--I got a lot on my plate untill March, then I have the year all to myself for music. :heh: )

Maestrosetti
January 30th, 2007, 01:03 am
Maestrosetti - Composer

I'll make a good music lackey. I'm ready to write pretty much anything, whatever be required.

ajamesu
January 30th, 2007, 01:21 am
I don't think I'm good enough a composer yet, so I'll be a storywriter :)

EDIT: Whoops, I'm the only that forgot x_x

Ajamesu - Story Writer

random_tangent
January 30th, 2007, 01:50 am
rantan - storywriter (I can't compose for anything... but i CAN occasionally write!)

RD
January 30th, 2007, 04:38 am
Radical_Dreamer - story writer

KaitouKudou
January 30th, 2007, 05:59 am
I want to sign up as a composer/strory writer.

Asher
January 30th, 2007, 10:14 am
Inuchan - story writer

meim
January 30th, 2007, 03:00 pm
Storywriter. Lalala no software to compose.

KaitouKudou
January 30th, 2007, 03:27 pm
I want to sign up as a composer/strory writer.

I would prefer the story writer position, thank you.

PFK
January 30th, 2007, 03:43 pm
PFK - Composer/Story Writer.

Jaso
February 1st, 2007, 05:02 pm
I will write.

Pantalaimon10
February 3rd, 2007, 03:39 am
Do you have a rough copy of the song(s) in question? I'd like to know if I can be of any help in composition.

ajamesu
February 3rd, 2007, 04:34 am
I change my mind: I'd like to be a project leader :)

Ajamesu - Project Leader

RD
February 3rd, 2007, 05:58 am
Radical_Dreamer - Writer

or am I going to have to ask a third time? lolll
:heh:

Noir7
February 3rd, 2007, 12:44 pm
Okay seems like we have gathered quite a group of candidates. Now, the question is if we can really have this many writers and composers? I don't want more than one project leader, and since we have two candidates for that, one should be crowned :) Or will the two of them get along? They are responsible for all the composers and writers after all.

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 3rd, 2007, 02:47 pm
I think we can have one leader looking after the writing section while the other one can look after the composition section, but that's just a suggestion. ^^'

Pantalaimon10
February 3rd, 2007, 05:57 pm
Sounds like a plan to me.

I still want to be a composer - scratch that. I'll be the editor of the music. I'm new to composing.

Noir7
February 3rd, 2007, 11:00 pm
I think we can have one leader looking after the writing section while the other one can look after the composition section, but that's just a suggestion. ^^'
Yeah, that's a good idea. Do we need more strict rules for this project, or can we kick it off right now? If the answer is yes, I guess it's up to the project leaders to take the first step.

Pantalaimon10
February 3rd, 2007, 11:14 pm
Um, hokay. Feel free to ignore me. <_<

Milchh
February 4th, 2007, 12:27 am
Yeah, when we getting this thing on the road? Anytime soon?

Noir7
February 4th, 2007, 01:13 am
Um, hokay. Feel free to ignore me. <_<

I won't add anyone else to the list, that was just temporary anyway. Now it's up to the [music] supervisor to decide if you can join or not.

Pantalaimon10
February 4th, 2007, 01:26 am
Alright, have we decided on one yet? Assuming there is one?

ajamesu
February 4th, 2007, 01:47 am
Ignore this post -.-U Didn't read carefully

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 4th, 2007, 03:29 am
I think we should have more strict rules to get it more organized before we start... After all, we need some sort of guidelines to follow.

PorscheGTIII
February 4th, 2007, 04:58 am
Let's first decide who will lead each section and then have them choose the team for their section.

Noir7
February 4th, 2007, 03:25 pm
Well, since no one else applied for the positions, could the two current project leaders decide where to go from now on?

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 4th, 2007, 03:34 pm
Okay, Ajamesu and I will be sorting stuff out as soon as he gets my PM and etc... Sorry for the delay. ^^'

Milchh
February 4th, 2007, 04:03 pm
Alright, good, now we're starting it. ^.^

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 4th, 2007, 07:48 pm
Composition Project –

Firstly, we (the project leaders) do not want to set all the strict rules and whatnot so that you all will follow our lead. We want you writers and composers to have as much freedom as possible, therefore we tried to generate plans that allow you people choose what you want to do as opposed to what you must do. Secondly, please respect other people’s choices, if there’s a decision for you to be made, it’s best if you discuss about it with other members and gain insights from others. Thirdly, we project leaders will try to incorporate as much time as possible to communicate with you guys so we can know your progress and etc… If you have any concerns, questions or whatever, please feel free to ask us. We will try to solve any issues according to the majority as opposed to just us two. Have fun!!!

~~~
Composition Requirements and Restrictions:

-Any instrumentation may be used
-Any audio formats may be submitted (MIDI, MP3, WAV, WMA…)
-Other than the main theme/overture/opening/whatever and the ending theme/reprise/finale/whatever may have more than one composers working for it, it is *preferred* (therefore, if you insist, ask the leaders) that each composer work independently
-There will possibly be no deadline(s) for compositions, but you should complete one piece before starting another but if you can’t, you must tell the leaders your progress and they will approve accordingly (i.e. we will let you start another if you have 80% of your piece done, but if you have just 3 bars, then no)
-No arrangements, or variations from other pieces or songs or whatever
-*If* the majority decides to have the leaders decide on themes to compose for or limit an amount of pieces allowed, it will be first come first serve
-Pieces may be edited/criticized by others, but it is best if you do that at your own expense, in another words: don’t post a fragment of your piece on the thread and ask for comments, if you really need comments, do it via PM or MSN
-obviously: No plagiarizing
-have fun

~~~

Writers Requirements and Restrictions:

-obviously: WRITE IN ENGLISH not Japanese, Korean, Chinese or whatever, but if you insist, provide a translation
-work co-operatively
-you may ask others to edit, proofread and etc… but don’t post on the thread, do it via PM, MSN, and etc…
-*If* we do split it into parts: There will be no deadline(s) for writings, but you should complete one piece before starting another but if you can’t, you must tell the leaders your progress and they will approve accordingly (i.e. we will let you start another if you have 80% of your piece done, but if you have just 3 sentences, then no)
-if you use any information from any websites, books or whatever, site the source
-have fun

~~~
Okay, we have some plans of how we are going to do this, but you participants must choose:

Plan A:

Summary of Plan: Composers will compose as the story is being written.

Our writers will start the story first. With the writers’ group leader (or both leaders), they will decide on a theme and/or a brief plotline. Then when we have a brief outline on what we are going to write about, the leaders will pass on the theme to the composers and let one composer compose the main theme for the story. And because we don’t want just one composer to do the main theme, we will either: 1.) have every participating composer compose 8-16 bars ~or~ 2.) have one composer compose a main theme and let others vary it (i.e. making variations, arrangements and etc…).

While the composers compose the main theme, writers will continue to write the story. The writers will/may split into groups on designing characters, plots, settings and etc… They will expand their plot(s), character(s), and setting(s) further, so that they have a clear and detailed timeline/outline of their story. When that is complete, we pass on the information of the characters and settings (the plot can still change at this point, so it’s best if we leave it for last) to the composers and composers may compose character(s)’s theme songs or settings’ theme songs.

After that step is complete, writers will start writing the actual story. They can: 1.) write in chapters ~or~ 2.) divide the work up somehow so each participant can write something ~or~ 3.) other ways (to be discussed). For each section completed, we will pass on the story to the composers and they will compose for, perhaps, the actions person X did, and etc… ~or~ the composition leaders will decide on the theme composers will write about according to the story.

When the overall of the story is completed with most of the pieces, we will have composers compose the finale/reprise/whatever for the story with the format of the story’s main theme, so it’s: 1.) have every participating composer compose 8-16 bars ~or~ 2.) have one composer compose a main theme and let others vary it.

And voila, we have a completed story with music.

Plan B:

Summary of Plan: We let the writers finish the entire story first, and then composers compose at the end.

First, our writers will generate a theme or brief plot. Then they may: 1.) split into groups to develop settings, characters, plot and etc… ~or~ 2.) work on settings, characters, and plot co-operatively. After that, writers will come together once more and discuss any final bits and pieces that they may change in this stage. After some embellishments, writers will start writing the actual story. They may: 1.) split it into chapters so each writer gets a part to write ~or~ 2.) divide it somehow ~or~ 3.) others (to be discussed). This stage may take quite sometime, therefore composers must be patient if we are going with this plan. Finally, when the story is complete composers will start composing.

There will be quite a few options here: 1.) they can have the project leaders create titles/themes for different pieces/songs and they claim what they want ~or~ 2.) they can suggest titles and ideas on their own and get approved by the project leaders and the participants ~or~ 3.) they can have the writers create titles/themes for them to compose ~or~ 4.) a mix of each. After all composers finish, the project will be complete.

Plan C?

If anyone has a better plan, tell us, the leaders will take it into consideration along with other participants.

deathraider
February 4th, 2007, 07:56 pm
Plan B, I vote.

PorscheGTIII
February 4th, 2007, 08:11 pm
I aggree. I believe Plan B should give us a better final result.

Noir7
February 4th, 2007, 08:47 pm
I concur, the second plan seems more likely to work for everyone. To the leaders; Feel free to start new threads if you need to, for writing and composing and... yeah, if it's needed don't hesitate ;)

ajamesu
February 4th, 2007, 09:52 pm
Just remember, if we go by Plan B, then the composers will have to wait until the story's done to start composing (which may or may not take a while).

clarinetist
February 4th, 2007, 09:53 pm
:P We know. I also vote Plan B.

Pantalaimon10
February 4th, 2007, 10:41 pm
Hm, I guess my vote's not needed. It's already decided anyway. ^_^

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 4th, 2007, 10:51 pm
Okay writers, you're off to the other thread. As for composers, you may ask questions and etc... here. You'll be waiting for quite a while.

@ Noir: We will possibly have 3 threads for this project: this one, the writing one and the composition one. This one will remain as a chat thread about the project and asking/answering questions, the writing one will be for writers to post notes, outlines and the good copies of the story, and the composition one would obviously be for posting compositions! If you find any problems or would like to change something, please go ahead.

RD
February 5th, 2007, 01:59 am
Okay, sorry about the miss-post-place-yeah...

But which one are we going to do?

Milchh
February 5th, 2007, 02:05 am
Yeah the obvious biggest thing for me is probably making a theme for the story, or if there's multiple characters, I would like to make at least some of theirs'. :sweat:

Since I'm listening to a lot of Kondo's work, and other loved Modern ST Composers, I'm getting a lot of motivation to compose for this. :lol: :lol:

deathraider
February 5th, 2007, 02:08 am
We could have multiple themes for the story. Stories often have multiple intertwined themes.

@Mazeppa: lol, I feel like I'm starting to revert to a more classical or baroque sound because of my theory class!

PorscheGTIII
February 5th, 2007, 03:15 am
Since I'm listening to a lot of Kondo's work, and other loved Modern ST Composers, I'm getting a lot of motivation to compose for this. :lol: :lol:

I know what you mean. I've been listening to Michael Giacchino a lot lately and I'm etching to try a few things out.

RD
February 6th, 2007, 12:06 am
Yeah the obvious biggest thing for me is probably making a theme for the story, or if there's multiple characters, I would like to make at least some of theirs'. :sweat:

Since I'm listening to a lot of Kondo's work, and other loved Modern ST Composers, I'm getting a lot of motivation to compose for this. :lol: :lol:

And you can just guess what I've been playing and listening to.

poems...

songs...

*cough*

meim
February 6th, 2007, 09:49 am
What do you people think of a post-apocalyptic setting?

Noir7
February 6th, 2007, 01:13 pm
A dystopian setting? I like that idea :)

PorscheGTIII
February 6th, 2007, 01:52 pm
Yeah, sounds kool!

Milchh
February 6th, 2007, 03:37 pm
Adventure & Love Story? :sweat:

Noir7
February 6th, 2007, 05:17 pm
Mazeppa, too much Zelda for you! Nah, but I concur. A love story would be really easy to compose music for. But what about a dystopian love story? XD

Milchh
February 6th, 2007, 05:24 pm
I guess we can go along with Noir. Had to look up dystopian on the wiki, but now I feel fine with it.

(And yeah, your right--too much Zelda in my head, just a sugestion. Lol)

KaitouKudou
February 6th, 2007, 08:33 pm
I suggest drama. Write using dialogue format.

Eg...

Bob (as he raises his glass): A toast to the happy couple!

This way, I believe, will be easier to place music into afterwards for it is like making a TV show. What scene gets what music. I don't see many music written for shortstories until it is put onto a screen so I say we write the story into a drama.

Second reason: Because we have so many composers, one short story may not even be able to give jobs to all who wanted to write songs for it. Therefore, I believe by using dialogue form, it gives more chances for different music of different genre. I understand how many movies starts with a novel but I doubt we will be able to write a novel in any short amount of time. The 180page fanfiction novel took me just under a year to complete and that's because I decided to rush the ending. We have so many writers as well and it is much easier to have two writers writing different scenes then different chapters.

Third: By choosing this format, if one person on this forum is able to convince the drama class/club or something to act it out and tape it for us, we may even be able to have a short finished product to show off with.

I know we haven't decided on what type of story we're gonna do but I was about to go to bed last night and I thought of this plot idea!

The name is just what came off the top of my head...

Kelvin Wong's interest in music started early in his days. Born in to a high-middle-class-family in China, he was fascinated by the melody of piano and was taught the basics of musical notations by his grandfather. Due to his father's work circumstances, he travelled to different countries until he reached Canada where he now resided.

His parents never thought of his music to be any more than his hobby so when he spoke to them about making music his focus in university he was strictly denied. Realizing that music was becomming too big of a part for their son, their parents tried to pull him away from it, telling him to focus on his studies on getting into med school. But Kelvin's passion for music never declined.

The story unfolds when his zeal explodes in rage to his stubborn father and runs away from home...

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 6th, 2007, 08:55 pm
It seems like dystopian and love theme is in favour... ;) But, please continue to talk/expand about it, and if possible, inform your other fellow writers about it.

ajamesu
February 7th, 2007, 05:19 am
If anyone wants an example of a pre-Dystopian love novel, read "Armageddon Summer" by Jane Yolen, which is about families who think the world is going to end and stuff, and two teenagers who can't be together because Believers can't be together with non-Believers. (Again, forbidden love, which is pretty common.)

RD
February 7th, 2007, 05:33 am
A dystopian setting? I like that idea :)

Oh yeah, that would be very nice! Like Metropolis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%281927_film%29) or Bicentennial Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bicentennial_Man)~! : ]

deathraider
February 7th, 2007, 05:41 am
1984!!!!

I agree with above ideas. Let's try to incorporate SPACE PIRATES though, ok?

RD
February 7th, 2007, 05:42 am
OMG yes but its going to sound all baroque if we get to inspired from 1984.

march two three four march two three four make out two three four toss-wife-over-cliff two three four.

ajamesu
February 7th, 2007, 05:43 am
Fahrenheit 451 :)

Nah, everyone knows SPACE NINJAS pwn j00 xD

meim
February 7th, 2007, 01:55 pm
What will the dystopian society be like? Aristocracy! A group of people rule the post- war/ post-plagued world. Society is divided by physical barriers( electric fence or something). Robots would be servants. (fill in love story)

Muhahah. Space pirates and one space ninja( <--loser) are people that exclude themselves from the world, chose to live in space. Somehow help in the later parts when there is going to be a revolution.

Ahh my bad attempts to fit stuff together.

Noir7
February 7th, 2007, 09:18 pm
A dystopian setting doesn't have to equal high-tech, spacetravel or robots you know? :P Dystopia simply means a darkened future.

HopelessComposer
February 7th, 2007, 09:32 pm
^Yes, but as any decent RPG/anime fan can tell you, technology, machines, and corporations = TOTALLY EVIL.
Nature/rural villages/magic users = pure goodness/all that is holy in this world.
XD

RD
February 7th, 2007, 11:51 pm
I have a story idea.

It could be about a place where you have no free choice apart from how you breath because the government controls everything. Two people living under the government have been having dreams about living with each other without the controlling government. They randomly see each other on the street one day. They see each other on the next day and so forth until they grow the nerve to meet each other. Then they make up a plan with each other to blow up the governments capital [where they live] trying to kill all the government officials and try and "free" others from slavery. The government some how hears about it from sneaky ears and kills him. The girl goes to their next meet up spot only to find an army of people with guns that kill her mafia style. A lot of bullets. bang bang bang

Maestrosetti
February 8th, 2007, 12:22 am
I have a story idea.

It could be about a place where you have no free choice apart from how you breath because the government controls everything. Two people living under the government have been having dreams about living with each other without the controlling government. They randomly see each other on the street one day. They see each other on the next day and so forth until they grow the nerve to meet each other. Then they make up a plan with each other to blow up the governments capital [where they live] trying to kill all the government officials and try and "free" others from slavery. The government some how hears about it from sneaky ears and kills him. The girl goes to their next meet up spot only to find an army of people with guns that kill her mafia style. A lot of bullets. bang bang bang
That's almost the same plot as 1984. :\

RD
February 8th, 2007, 12:30 am
I noticed that at after re-reading it...

Its hard to come up with stories : [

I have another idea lol.


The story is based in the far past when technology was based of mystical things. Religious prophets come together to agree on that fact that something that science cannot explain is soon to come.

A solar eclipse takes place, but when the moon is supposed to move out of the suns way the sun is not there. The newest prophet is found and told he has to go out to find the sun. He collects himself and sets off on a cool looking horse into the clouds to ask the people that live in there what to do. They tell him that what he looks for is near home. He goes off looking everywhere only to have a dream of all the plants of the world dieing, then all the live stock then all the people.

he goes on a trip blah blah and the sun is in the core of the world. He takes it out and boom were saved.

O_O

deathraider
February 8th, 2007, 01:11 am
Um, I like the idea of the sun disappearing, but...the rest sounded really cheesy to me.

KaitouKudou
February 8th, 2007, 01:44 am
Story Idea Summary...

Off the shores of Lit'hathen, an island was inhabited by the Kilmadore tribe. The tribe has been hiding the secrets of its ancestors for centuries but alas, the government has discovered it. It was a scroll, a scroll containing the secrets of the forbidden arts: Black Magic. Negotiations were held for the scroll. The world government tried many tactics to obtain it but all ended in failure. On the night of Aug. 24, 3254, fearing that the Kilmadore tribe may launch a strike using their forbidden powers, a secret extermination occured consisting of 2 nuclear bombers and a squad of assasins known as the "Op. SA". The news has stated that it was a schedualed nuclear arms testing operation and that no one was harmed and things returned back to normal for the rest of the world.

Acala was having trouble sleeping. She had been having dreams she could not understand. She would see the reflection of a person's silhouette in the water. The silhouette would disperse as drops of water hits its surface, and then shatter away with a blinding flash of light. Walking down the darkened halls, she realized there was still lights from her parent's room.

"She deserves to know the truth!" Acala heard the words of her mother.

"She will leave us if we tell her. You do know that right Lithia?" the father replied.

"I know..."

"She can't handle it!"

"She's already beggining to sense it. It's only a matter of time before she asks us about it. When that happens, do you intend to lie to her about it?"

"I don't know, but I just don't want to hurt her. We may not be her real parents but she's still our daughter."

Behind the crack of the open door, tears was rolling down Acala's face. The year was 3270.

(End Summary)
Just a story idea based on the "Darkened Future" theme.

deathraider
February 8th, 2007, 02:31 am
Not nuclear bombs. It needs to be something more futuristic.

RD
February 8th, 2007, 02:34 am
I was thinking that futuristic/technology themes are a bit... dumb, to be candid.

I like the idea of a mythological themed thing.

?

[i like the disappearing sun idea too, the rest was just some half-assed story that I pulled out to go around that idea]

KaitouKudou
February 8th, 2007, 03:20 am
Not nuclear bombs. It needs to be something more futuristic.

It's just a generalized idea. I was too lazy to think of a cool scientific name for a super powerful bomb lol

Oh, on my story idea there, we can add that eclipse thing somehow I bet! A mix of futuristic technology and mythological elements might be able to make that idea work.

ajamesu
February 8th, 2007, 03:36 am
Yeah, that's a great idea, KK, like a battle between the advanced technologies of the government and the sacred magic of the hermits or something like that...

Some interesting ideas popping out :) I guess you all agree you want something futuristic and something with an antagonistic government, no?

RD
February 8th, 2007, 03:39 am
I'm a bit against it. I know that political and sci-fi books are good, but are that appropriate for a basis of musical things? I mean, theres a difference between emotions in 1984 and those in Hamlet or The Old Man and the Sea; one just seems "fake" I guess. Plastic maybe.

KaitouKudou
February 8th, 2007, 03:57 am
I think a mix of sci-fi with mystical elements will allow a great range of musical capabilities. From futuristic suspenseful or techno music for scenes involving gov technologies to medevil dorian progression. We aren't writing a musical so that makes all the music to this project either Opening/Closing/BGM. If we were to do something along the lines of shakespearian story, we would be confined to music of that era to match its mood.

I'm not saying these to defend my story idea. In fact, I actually liked the idea of my first plot more because it can have music from different cultures. I liked your idea of the eclipse as well. I want to see some more details for your story as well. Who is the antagonist? What kind of hardships will the prophet face? Why was he chosen (What makes him special). Don't like the cloud people though...too childish in my opinion. What kind of selfdiscovery might he make with such a storyline?

A short prologue would be greatly appreciated Radical_Dreamer.

RD
February 8th, 2007, 04:35 am
Well, see, I was just brain storming. No one should get that deep into their ideas yet because 1) were just pooping out ideas 2) no one even knows if everyone wants their idea yet, so don't waste the time to start writing a full story and 3) we still haven't decided on a main theme or setting.

With that in mind I think we need to collect ourself and make a poll. Something about what kind of story do we want [sci-fi, mystery, fantasy], what type of story [epic poem, short story, play] and such and such. Throwing out ideas is just not working : \

ajamesu
February 8th, 2007, 05:05 am
Exactly.

A. Epic Poem
B. Short Story
C. Play
D. Other (specify when voting)

1. Sci-Fi
2. Mystery
3. Fantasy
4. Tragedy
5. Horror
6. Biography/Memoirs
7. Other (specify when voting)

I can't think of any others :P Pick the letter of the story style and the number of the story genre when voting. I will keep track of the votes :) Ready, set, vote.

EDIT: Composers get to vote, too :)

KaitouKudou
February 8th, 2007, 05:22 am
I suggest we each give a story idea instead of the genre we want the story to fit in. I don't think that when people writer stories, they decide on the genre they want to write on, then think of the setting, then the plot. Rather, people think of stories as well...a story. They think of interesting plots and just write what comes naturally.

Therefore, I believe a poll on actual story openings would be more appropriate. I did not ask for the whole story, just a detailed prologue for people to see exactly what kind of a story is on the author's mind.

I do not believe whether a story being mystery, sci-fi, romance or anything matters. I do not read a book specifically because it is sci-fi or drama and definately will not say a story sucks because its not in that genre.

I do not think a vote on the genre of the story is important. I think the potentials for musicality is huge for any type of story with any plot. I also think the style of writing for the story can be decided after we decide on the plot, meaning: we can decide whether we want to write like a play or a novel or a drama ect after we chose the story.

For instance, IF my idea was chosen, it is but a mere start. I did not specify any adversities Acala will face, nor did I write what kind of actions she will take after hearing the truth about herself other than the fact that she was crying outside the door and she was around 15. Therefore, we can see that even if an idea is chosen there is much more to discuss as to how the actual story will progress as well as who will write what part.

Suggestion: Create a poll for the ideas for stories. The genre will be decided with the idea. Then make a poll on the writing style (Poem, Novel, Drama[screenplay], Play, ect)

A writing advice I've heard was, "Write the story before giving it a title."

I hope I don't sound like I'm arguing with you Dreamer:lol: I just have troubles seeing what you see happening with the prophet and that's why I wanted some more details. Also, what is this 1984? Did I miss an idea or is it a movie or something?

meim
February 8th, 2007, 10:35 am
I agree with KK on the suggestion. After the poll is done, there can still be future discussion on the plot, at least there is a main storyline to work on. The composers should give more opinion on the type of music they would like to compose. I think it will be easier too regarding "the appropriate for a basis of musical things" that RD mentioned. Personally, I think it would be fun to have more contemporary music other than all that baroque/classical.

Don't worry, you don't sound like you are arguing with RD. :)

Milchh
February 8th, 2007, 01:13 pm
I think the idea of some futuristic and mythological, magic, war/conflict is completely uncreative. I see no musical connections between some urban-techno and a type of (just saying) celtic magic styles of music.

Stick it to something where it's all related. Maybe stories of some magical powers that help people destroy another tech. colony. A lot like Phantasy Star, ya know?

But make this more creative please. I'd like making a more intertwined story to compose for. :sweat:

KaitouKudou
February 8th, 2007, 03:30 pm
I think the idea of some futuristic and mythological, magic, war/conflict is completely uncreative. I see no musical connections between some urban-techno and a type of (just saying) celtic magic styles of music.

Stick it to something where it's all related. Maybe stories of some magical powers that help people destroy another tech. colony. A lot like Phantasy Star, ya know?

But make this more creative please. I'd like making a more intertwined story to compose for. :sweat:

I take it this is directed to me and RD's Story lines. You have to remember that we only put out how things started. Neither of us has even said over a sentence to the actual plot of the story. Sure we have future technology and ancient magic together and something like that may have already been done, but what hasn't been done in this day and age. I think how intertwined we can make the story can come after the ideas poll as well.

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 8th, 2007, 09:14 pm
@ Composers: Well, the story is up to the writers. Even though you have the right to choose which theme or style of writing to use, don't forget that in the end, only writers have jurisdiction over the final story. So I wouldn't really suggest composers (unless you're composer/writer) to put that much details or effort on telling what you want (you may, however, suggest). Besides, composition is all about creativity, it doesn't really matter if the story isn't what you want, cos you can still make your music what you want to achieve.

@ Writers: Keep the ideas coming! Don't worry about the composers, they can always find their ways around. And don't worry about the style thing, I mean, Tchaikovsky (a romantic composer) composed music for Romeo and Juliet in the romantic style, so it doesn't really matter what the writing's style is.

KaitouKudou
February 8th, 2007, 11:06 pm
Story Idea...

He was always not there. Liana couldn't blame him. He was the number one agent the country had to offer. It's been at least a year since she's seen him but that did not matter any more.

(Earlier that day)

Phone Rings
Liana: Hello?
Kay: Liana, it's me.
Liana(Eyes misty with joy): Kay!
Kay: Do you remember the valentine we confessed our love?
Liana: Of course I do.
Kay: Meet me at the same place, same time, same day.

There was a strange coldness in his voice but she didn't care. All's that she could think about was that he was okay and that he is comming back.

(valentines day)
She was sitting on the third bench from the center of the park, directly under the light when she heard his voice.

Kay: Liana...

Liana (jumps up and about to turn): Kay?
Kay: Wait! Don't turn!
She stops.
Kay: If you turn, I don't think I'd be able to tell you what I have to say.
Liana(Fear strikes her heart and tears forms in her eyes): What's going on Kay? Why are you doing this?
Kay(His pain showing through his words): I want you to forget about me Liana. There has to be someone better for you out there.
Liana: Kay...what are you...
Kay: I can't see you anymore Liana.
Liana: WHY! I don't care that you're not always here. I can wait!
Kay: I'm sorry, goodbye Liana.

10years passes...

Liana has been working for the FBI for the past 8 years. She wanted to find him. She searched through every government file and every case he had done before but they had all been rewritten. Not even a shred of his existance remained. She was looking at some files when her pager beeped her upstairs.

Liana: You rang?
Bager: You have a new assignment.
Liana: Details?
Bager: We believe there is a crime lab in the Kimcrow Mountains doing research on biological weaponry. You just have to find out what that is and bring back the files.
Liana: Sounds easy enough.
Bager: I had a feeling you'd say that so we added a small side mission.
Liana raises her brow.
Bager: Jim Alisson, he is the one responsible for all transactions of the organization. Kill him and make it look like an accident.
Liana takes the photo. Her heart stops (Thoughts): Kay...

VERY VERY RUSHED! I think it was enough to show the main idea of the story though...

RD
February 9th, 2007, 02:33 am
Yeah yeah, don't worry I'm not mad at you. But please please don't take your time to script things out. We don't even know if were doing a play script, it could be a story with no dialog at all.

I think we [u]need[u] to start at square one before anything. Right now. What kind of story are we dealing with here? Play script? Poem? Omniscient no dialog narrative? I say something a bit more poetic. Little or no dialog too.

I think that we should have a leader for both composers and writers to compliment the overall leader. Makes it so theres a bit more people to supervise and a bigger chance someone authoritative will be on to help.

Skeek sorry for getting all bossy on you >_> I just noticed how rude I sounded

deathraider
February 9th, 2007, 02:57 am
I say play script or story with dialog.

KaitouKudou
February 9th, 2007, 04:59 am
I vote screenplay or dialogued story

KaitouKudou
February 9th, 2007, 08:04 am
Common Story Ideas we can expand on...

1. Lover is poisoned and there is only one place to find a cure. Can be magical, modern, technical, sci-fi, romance, fantasy...

2. One guy, more than one girl...Romance, adventure, drama...

3. Girl during the classical era wanting to become a composer but is forbidden for it was considered a man's thing...historical reference, aristocratic, femenist movements...(This type of stories require great knowledge of all aspects of the era for it to be good because BS is easily noticeable)

4. Wanting to become the best at something. Good old anime style, common but people still watch them.

5. Writing something extremely stupid in an extremely serious tone while keeping its comic. Eg: Yakitate Japan...

6. Heaven has war with Hell and the humans are caught inbetween. A story of alliances, betrayles, might, and magic...

7. A guy likes a girl and the girl likes the guy but neither knows about it. The guy decides to ask a different girl for advice while the girl asks a different guy for advice and creates a mess...obviously a romantic comedy...

8. Romeo and Juliet...

9. A prince falls in love with his servant...rest is up to your imagination.

10. Treasure Hunt...main would be adventure but it has lots of storyline potentials on the side such as Romance, Mystery, drama, magic, ect...

Well that's like 10 right there haha.

Is this the type of summaries you meant RD?

meim
February 9th, 2007, 09:07 am
I hope the story is less romantic type. I vote for dialogued story rather than play script. It seems like many people are keen on story involving magic. I was thinking of a situation when people are going to leave an enclosed underground hideout which they hide there for years to avoid mutagens or something. Apparently, it should be liberation to get out to see the world again after so many years, some people might not like the idea of going back to the surface of earth. Eventually the people come out, find the world almost recovered but also mutated forms of creatures which kills them. Battle against survival between surface humans and previously underground people, the surface humans are underprivilege people that are not chosen to enter the underground place. ending?

KaitouKudou
February 9th, 2007, 06:49 pm
I just realized a very important thing we need to decide.

Who's our target audience?

Kids: General hero and villain style is effective.

Teen Male: Cool fight scene, witty comedy.

Teen Female: Romance and romantic comedy.

Young adult: Drama

Adult: Drama...ask your parents if you don't know what they like cause I can't really explain it.

Old people: I just know my grandparents likes the war time heroic things but ain't got no clue haha!

Ray=Out
February 9th, 2007, 08:30 pm
Idk if u can still be a composer but if u can i wanna be 1

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 9th, 2007, 09:29 pm
I think that we should have a leader for both composers and writers to compliment the overall leader. Makes it so theres a bit more people to supervise and a bigger chance someone authoritative will be on to help.



We don't need a third leader, cos the 'leader' of everything will basically sit around and have nothing to do. Secondly, Ajamesu is suppose to supervise the writing section more and I am suppose to supervise the composition section more. I'm just basically doing all the posting since Ajamesu isn't on as much as me. As for the supervision part, you can't expect the leaders to always bug you or stalk you just to get your progress, and that's why we asked you all to share MSN's, go on IRC, or have lengthy PMs with each other so that you can have better discussions. Even though we are the leaders, we try to give you all the freedom available as oppose to making all guidelines and blah blah blah so that we can boss you around. So in the end, it's really up to you guys, we leaders can only give you a very brief guideline, tell you what can be done, organize what you did, plan ways for it to be successful and suggest ideas; in the end, it's all up to you guys.

Noir7
February 10th, 2007, 12:05 am
@KK: That's just stereotypical. It has nothing to do with how successful it will be ~ pick any genre, it all comes down to how well its written.

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 10th, 2007, 04:12 am
Important Announcements

Okay, after lengthy discussions with Ajamesu, we've decided a few things to be done now.
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We noticed that many of you are eager to contribute, but because you're all so eager and have so many ideas, we can't really cram them all as one or make them all to your liking. Therefore, to compromise and to be organized, we've decided to do the following:

-We need a theme. Yes, a theme, not a plot/summary/synopsis.

Definition of Theme: A main idea or a main message that the story is going to give the reader/audience.

Unclear?

Random Examples:

A good theme: A romantic dystopian tale with doubts of humanity.

A bad theme: Bob's adventure to Mars.

Basically, keep it VERY general so you all can expand on it TOGETHER. This project is meant to be done TOGETHER, not by one person, five people, people with names that starts with 'A' or whatever. Understood? Good. Then please try to get a theme ASAP, cos I'm going to leave for three weeks near the end of February, and Ajamesu will be quite busy. After you get a theme, we'd like to have someone from the writers' crew to be a secretary. This secretary person must keep track of all ideas made by every participant. It doesn't matter if it's point form, or whatever, we just want to know what you're doing and organize all these information. And this secretary person will send us this progress report weekly. Yes, weekly, not monthly, annually, or every millenium. The secretary must partcipate in most of the discussions (doesn't matter if it's PM, MSN, AIM, Google Chat or whatever). If the secretary person can't attend them all, then get the information from the people who did. It's very important to do this because we want to be as organized as possible so that we can proceed quicker and less indecisive. If you're interested to be the secretary, please PM either Ajamesu or myself, we'll tell you more. And that's all that concerns you writers.

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Okay, this message is for composers (not composer/writer, just composer): we know that we let you composers help the writers to choose a theme, but I realized that some of you composers started to want to get involved in the plot/mood/atmosphere/setting/whatnot as well. You signed up as a composer, so don't. These stuff are up to the writers. If you're a creative composer, it doesn't matter if the theme or whatever is not at your advantage, cos if you're creative, you can always make it to *your* advantage. To restate, I quote Ajamesu directly: "If you planned to *just* be a composer, then you can't really expect to compose what *you* desire, because this is a group effort, and should be treated as such."

We try to give you people as much freedom as possible, but if there are all these ideas flying in and no one getting anything done, nothing will be done in the end. So forgive us if you feel that it's a little constricting.

PS: This is more of a personal question: do you think that we should let future newcomers join?

deathraider
February 10th, 2007, 04:33 am
A romantic medieval fantasy with commentary on the potential evil of man.

KaitouKudou
February 10th, 2007, 06:38 am
@KK: That's just stereotypical. It has nothing to do with how successful it will be ~ pick any genre, it all comes down to how well its written.

Of course it is stereotyped. There is a reason to why stereotypes exist. Hense is why there are Shojo mangas. I'm just saying that it is a basis on what to work on. There is more than typing I love you 5million times for TA for teenage girls but that's not saying we can't say it 4million times in different ways.

Jaso
February 11th, 2007, 07:49 pm
I think that lost love (death/rejection etc.) is a very healthy and interesting theme for both writers and composers, no?

I suggest Lost Love as a theme.

Milchh
February 11th, 2007, 11:17 pm
Yeah, I'm kinda up for a love plot, but also some use of conflicts or slight-adventurous mysteries-ya know?

deathraider
February 11th, 2007, 11:42 pm
Yeah, I'm kinda up for a love plot, but also some use of conflicts or slight-adventurous mysteries-ya know?
A romantic medieval fantasy with commentary on the potential evil of man?

RD
February 12th, 2007, 05:32 am
A story about a suicidal parent.

: |

KaitouKudou
February 12th, 2007, 07:46 pm
Lost love has my vote too!

Lost love due to suicidal parents because of an evil man during the medieval era with magic wanting the throne of the king?

I just mixed up every idea we've had about love, time era, government, magic, ect ect...it has a decent ring to it haha!

KaitouKudou
February 15th, 2007, 05:25 am
No offenses or anything but are we even still doing this? The leaders need to make their decisions fast. Make a voting thread for format or genre or something. I've been waiting for one of the leaders to make a post on the final decision of what to do and it's been a few days already. How about a reply...any reply from the leaders.

Many people writing one story requires ALOT of work and human organization. At this rate, I doubt we will even get to the composers.

ajamesu
February 15th, 2007, 05:50 am
I haven't really had time to talk to Dot after the last announcement because of stuff in real life, so I'll talk to him about it when I get the chance.

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 15th, 2007, 07:45 pm
No offenses or anything but are we even still doing this? The leaders need to make their decisions fast. Make a voting thread for format or genre or something. I've been waiting for one of the leaders to make a post on the final decision of what to do and it's been a few days already. How about a reply...any reply from the leaders.

Many people writing one story requires ALOT of work and human organization. At this rate, I doubt we will even get to the composers.

Ugh... Didn't I say that it's up to YOU people? We leaders can only do what you people ask (i.e. making plans, making threads, organizing your ideas and etc...), but not really to generate the entire thing. But since almost no one is really contributing themes (we have only like 2), we can't really do anything until you all have more stuff.

Furthermore, no one really read my announcement, so hey, it's not that we're not working, it's that people aren't attentive. :mellow:

ajamesu
February 16th, 2007, 03:13 am
Yeah, you need to meet on your own time to discuss this stuff. We want to give you as much freedom as possible, so there you have it.

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 19th, 2007, 11:09 pm
*Bump*

Okay, if you guys have no more input in the theme, then we're choosing from the ones discussed. Don't say that we didn't give you variety, it's just that you people didn't really give an opinion.

1.)A romantic medieval fantasy with commentary on the potential evil of man. (suggested by Deathraider)
*1 vote (Deathraider)

2.)Lost love (suggested by Jaso)
*0 votes

3.)A story about a suicidal parent (suggested by RD)
*0 votes

4.) A romantic dystopian tale with doubts of humanity. (suggested by a lot of people)
*5 votes (Noir7, Mazeppa meim, RD, and Clarinetist)

That's all we have. I don't think it's necessary to waste a thread for a poll in the already busy Compositions forum. Votes will be tallied here. Furthermore, since some of you people were poking me about continuing at a faster, I will not add anymore themes, cos I already gave you a lot of time to decide for that but no one really said anything.

I will post further instructions with Ajamesu by the end of this week.

Arashi_no_Toriko
February 20th, 2007, 08:29 pm
can i still join as a writer? :/

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 20th, 2007, 08:42 pm
Sure, since no one really replied to my comment about allowing new members to join. So I guess you can. ^.^

meim
February 23rd, 2007, 09:25 am
If we are suppose to vote here, I vote 4.

Milchh
February 23rd, 2007, 05:19 pm
4.) A romantic dystopian tale with doubts of humanity. (Suggested by a lot of people)

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 23rd, 2007, 07:37 pm
Good, your votes are posted up. The end of the voting will be next Tuesday, as I need to leave for maybe 3 weeks afterward, and so Ajamesu will take total charge after Tuesday and he will deal with the writers.

Noir7
February 24th, 2007, 12:41 am
4.

deathraider
February 24th, 2007, 04:31 am
1 (it feels so wrong to self vote!)

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 26th, 2007, 08:14 pm
*Bump*

It's not really active here lately, is it? Votes end tomorrow people!

clarinetist
February 26th, 2007, 08:24 pm
:\ It doesn't really matter to me, but might as well:

4.) A romantic dystopian tale with doubts of humanity.

SilverHawk
February 27th, 2007, 12:29 am
I don't know if I'm allowed to vote (I probably won't be helping), but if I am, I vote 4.

RD
February 27th, 2007, 01:21 am
4.

I'm all for it, but the dystopian part seems very arbitrary.

Sir_Dotdotdot
February 27th, 2007, 10:13 pm
Time's up for voting.

We're going with number 4. My job here is done so far, now Ajamesu will totally take over for the next short while.

Milchh
February 28th, 2007, 01:18 am
Alright, great.

I'm already getting inspired for some sort-of "Dystopian Overture" or whatever. :P

ajamesu
February 28th, 2007, 07:05 am
The other thread will be revived because it has all the guidelines and whatnot. Discuss amongst yourselves and decide if you're going to split it up, work together and consult each other word for word, or whatever you writers decide to do :) (I'll post this up on the other thread, too.)