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michi-chan
April 30th, 2007, 07:06 pm
Well... Hi i'm new xD So that's it...

Just think what a few hours with boredom can make...:sweat: First I just was playing with the mood on the piano, but I felt that maybe I should make something from it... I guess this is my first real composition, cause I don't really count thing I just played with the mood as compositions since I forget them as soon as I want to start over... This... I played the first part with the left hand and then I decided to make something from it...
It's not finished... I have the right hand for the piano left and well... I don't know what happened but I couldn't fit anymore in the program... @_@ It's longer in reality and this is just something I copied from the sheets I made by hand.
I don't really get Finale Notepad 2007 and I won't understand much if you critisize it, since I only played piano a bit (learned everything I know by myself) and the flute for about 11 years and just recently started using sheets to learn new songs...x_x

Sorry for bad English... Maybe...

That's it I guess...

clarinetist
April 30th, 2007, 08:15 pm
The bass was boring (repetitive rhythms ("bangy")). Try making something up on the right hand part of the Piano also.

SilverHawk
April 30th, 2007, 09:21 pm
I think it would sound better if you try arpeggiating the bass - I think it'll fit better with your flute melody.

peach_zelda_86
May 1st, 2007, 05:14 am
if you can reach those low notes a flute, i bow down before you. i can't even reach a low D.

i agree with silverhawk...arpeggiating the bass would be a reallie good idea in this case...

your bass is also kinda stiff...get a lil more loosey goosey hehe

michi-chan
May 1st, 2007, 05:38 am
I don't get much about what I should do with the bass...@_@

Well... I can go down to low C when playing so I can play this... But then again... I've been playing the flute pretty much all my life...

michi-chan
May 11th, 2007, 02:33 pm
Well... I tried a bit to make something for the right hand, it's not very much and I know it's very random, but I got a request by a friend to make a something for her and obviously I have had no inspiration and no will to even try to compose something...
Though I started out with my friend's song just about five to ten minutes ago...

deathraider
May 12th, 2007, 03:09 pm
You still have very awkward chord progressions, and your cadences are weird. The piano part is still not very smooth, partly because of the chord progression and partially because its not very consistent. It jumps around (in not and in accompaniment form) awkwardly, in my opinion.

Also, you could make more use of the flute's upper range to make the piece a bit more exciting.

michi-chan
May 13th, 2007, 03:10 pm
I could try to get it better, but for now I'll put it on hold, since I can't find inspiration or lust to work on it.
I'll attach the song I'm making for my friend. It's not finished yet, I think... It sounds a bit wrong from the idea I have in my head, but I can't seem to get it right so...

Rovski
May 14th, 2007, 08:44 am
I wonder if the bass part is an accompaniment or another melody? I cannot get the clear image of the melody and many of the chords doesn't harmonise. I feel that u should write out the melody clearly first

Rovski
May 14th, 2007, 10:03 am
I had restructured ur B. This will be just a guide(example) for u. Hope it helps. And sorry if i had offended u since i did do changes to ur piece.

michi-chan
May 14th, 2007, 05:00 pm
I kinda have the song in my head and I just make it match the thing in my head as much as possible, so both hand are melody, I guess...:\

The guide... ehm... How to say this... It's so... Not what I want it to sound like:heh:
But it sounds good, I can't say anything else

Another composition is attached, and the first one that's finished. It sucks, but it's for something another friend wanted me to "compose something short that sounded like *hums a bit to herself*".
If I remember correctly she wanted it to sound... a bit like... I think she used the sounds and word "Uuu", "myeah" and "horrible". I hope she'll like it (she'll listen to it tomorrow) and it fits whatever she wants it for... Oh yeah... She said it had to be named "Eira" whatever it would sound like.
Yeah... I played a bit with the bass, so...:heh:

Murder
May 14th, 2007, 09:07 pm
I couldn't really tell what the melody was... And from what I can tell from your comment, neither can you. Try simplifying the melody a bit, at least for your earlier pieces. Also, you should take some time to study some chords, especially the major and minor ones so you can get a more natural feeling for the chard progression.

Remember that you can start by making a melody, or start by a chord progression or bass line that you like. By arpeggiating the bass, they mean making those major or minor chords. Also remember that chords don't always have to be block notes, they can be separate notes making that arpeggio.

If you have something in your head and can't write it, remember that you don't have to be exact. If you have to, just start simpler and go from there.

Milchh
May 15th, 2007, 12:07 am
Hmm.. I know you are composing from what little ideas you are getting in your head, but to tell you the truth: they're really random and sort of, ". .Well, ok--I'll give it a shot. ." type of piece.

I would try to get really simple and get a melody with a simple left hand. Remember, early compositions aren't supposted to be master pieces, so just spend time on them to make them sound simple, and followable.

Good luck.

michi-chan
May 15th, 2007, 09:03 am
". .Well, ok--I'll give it a shot. ."

I guess my pieces are like that, 'cause that's what I'm thinking. Most of what I would is what I start out as just playing by the mood and... well... i end up sitting by my computer instead, composing from what my poor lil' head wanted the playing to sound like...

My friend was screaming and crying when she heard "eira"... I don't know why... It's real bad (i know that) but she said it was a masterpiece and perfect. For what... I still don't know, 'cause she won't tell me... But she asked me to another short melody, thinking of twins...
I'll attach my idea... It's still just melody and it's variations of the same, I guess... (I think I got inspired by what I'm trying to memorize at my flute lessons, since it's two variations of the same melody, and the b-guide too... :think: ) I don't know what to do with the bass. It doesn't sound right whatever I try... x_x

Rovski
May 15th, 2007, 12:59 pm
I'm pretty impressed when i heard eira, even though it is rather short. It actually sounded well like a modern piece should be, having a structure but very atonal, and the two melody could be heard clearly and does have a relationship. Amazing.
Well for the twins, it started to be more tonal.

michi-chan
May 15th, 2007, 01:51 pm
I might have this total wrong sense of music, no? If I think something is bad, somebody else thinks it's good, when I think it's good, it actually real bad, right?
Or... My headache I've been having lately is confusing my senses...

I guess I'll hold on to short songs atm, since my friend just phoned to hear if I could make lotsa more short songs, like eira. (well, partly it was because I'm home due to this headache and she wanted to hear how I felt) And she promised to tell, if she liked twins, so now I need to make it real fitting for whatever it is and then I can tell what I'm composing for. :/

SilverHawk
May 15th, 2007, 11:53 pm
For The Twins, I would add accompaniment to your melody - it'd add a lot more depth, I think.

michi-chan
May 19th, 2007, 07:17 am
I made something for the bass... Though it's very simple and it repeats... I hate it, but I really want to know what i'm composing for...:\

Rovski
May 19th, 2007, 02:31 pm
lol, mostly u just octaves the first note. Nothing wrong, but u could do more. And the last 2nd bar doesn't harmonise properly.

michi-chan
May 19th, 2007, 10:13 pm
Yeah, I already knew that...
I kinda get the feeling i should give up... at least until I get better...
I mean, i'm sick and it seems it's not a usual cold or flu or anything like that... It's something I never jad before, I'm sure of that... I even get migraine and that hasn't ever happened while I'm sick. only when the teachers at school doesn't make any sense at all and it's day that's 7-8 hours long (and since I walking to and from school it's another 3 hours added to that.)

michi-chan
May 22nd, 2007, 05:48 pm
Sorry for double posting...

I changed the left hand (though it wasn't much) and let my friend hear it with some other short, repeating stuff. She was happy about it and said what I was composing for. :shifty: i'm, attaching the finished thing now.
Well... She takes this gameprogramming course outside school and they was going to make a game with soundtrack in it (they never done that before, she said) using the game they've been working on for these last months and hand the program in to the teacher, or what to call the person teaching them. They got this CD with music the could use if the wanted or they could compose their own or get someone to compose it for them. Most of the music on the CD mathed with her game idea, but she wanted something that differed from the others so that's why she asked me. Eira seems to be game over and she don't know about twins yet, but she's thinking she will use it when it's loading.

But... Now she want a main theme (they had to get that by themselves if they wanted one, it seems) for it and I really can't compose long things can I? So... I would want some help getting started. @_@

clarinetist
May 22nd, 2007, 05:50 pm
The left hand part is boring. Basically, just quarter notes, and half notes, and dotted half notes...

michi-chan
May 22nd, 2007, 05:51 pm
Yeah I know, but my friend was happy, so I guess it didn't matter to her.

clarinetist
May 22nd, 2007, 06:28 pm
Here's what I would do:

(Note that I did this in only 3 min., so it's not as good as it could be.)

michi-chan
April 22nd, 2008, 11:34 am
Whoa! I haven't composed for a year? No wonder I felt it was a long time ago... @_@ And sorry for bumping this. I just felt it would be bad to make a new one just because I composed something again.

I've been trying to make a flute duett... Not that I can say it's good... And it isn't finished... <_< Just to hear what I can change. it doesn't have a name and I didn't write any composer... :heh: This is the best I can do without my flute... I only have my keyboard, so I haven't tried to play this yet.

Nyu001
April 22nd, 2008, 10:00 pm
It can be better to see a midi there. So I can listen to it. I have an old version of finale, so I can't open it. This have been happening to me a lot. ._.

PorscheGTIII
April 22nd, 2008, 11:19 pm
*Grumbles that he gave in to downloading notepad*

Well, let's take a look shall we...

What you have so far...doesn't have any feeling to it. I feel that what we have here is a lack of an important artistic factor. This being the melody is poorly written. Why? What make a good melody? ANSWER (http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=367514&postcount=2)

Take a listen to music and think what makes what you listened to special and memorable. Also, don't use notation software solely to do you composing. Too many times people enter notes into notation software and think what they hear is great, while in reality...it doesn't cut it. Use a piano to work out your melodies or any instrument of your choice.

Keep at it. Study some more. And try again. ^_^

michi-chan
April 23rd, 2008, 07:52 am
It can be better to see a midi there. So I can listen to it. I have an old version of finale, so I can't open it. This have been happening to me a lot. ._.

I can't do midis... sorry...


Use a piano to work out your melodies or any instrument of your choice.

I was using my keyboard, since I can't play the flute atm. What I meant was that i haven't played it on the flute yet. I never just use a notation software, since I know it doesn't do any good.

brncao
April 23rd, 2008, 08:44 am
It feels... so empty...

Ok, here's my own recommendation. Try remixing songs first. Remixing is sorta like semi-composing. You add your own creativity into another's work. Once you master it, next step is improvisation. After you're comfortable with improvising, then compose. Listen to a lot of music also for inspiration.