^ What do you mean?

i really like the finished version! and i think that the metro looks great now. it was a bit "stiff" in the first pic, but now it looks very .. mh.. don't know how to express this. lively sounds stupid, doesn't it?

Mine will always either be the RB26DETT or 2JZ-GTE

Edit: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/MUNI.jpg
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This one!

Theres alota stuff goin on so I thought there'd be a story to it.

That's up to you, you try and figure it out... that's the whole fun in collaborations, the viewer deciphers what is happening in the art.

This one!

Theres alota stuff goin on so I thought there'd be a story to it.

Eh.....the story ain't that great. It's kind of boring. :heh: Well, it involved me in riding one.

Here's what I've been up to lately.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC00892.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC00842-1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC00893.jpg

awesome as usual :O

Are those car wash guns? >_>

awesome as usual :O

*seconds arashi*

awesome stuff ^____^ you got some serious skill!!

ahhh! how can you drwa something like this! Its awesome! Good job-I cant say anything more! I love your pics

^ Xspeed is the car master.

^ Xspeed is the car master.

i second that, u should be the world's next Ferrari designer xspeed :P

i second that, u should be the world's next Ferrari designer xspeed :P

HAHA! i agree too!! World's next greatest Ferrari designer xspeed ^_^

That is flattering guys. Thanks. XD

I agree

*waiting for new stuff* :)

New teaser
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/STI.jpg

Updates coming soon.

i'm not so interested in cars in general, but you make me love them :lol:

Almost done!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/AstonMartinDBS-01.jpg

Hahahah, that lil UK flag is kinda cute man :P

Yah, I added it in at the last minute as a joke. I'm going to retouch a bit later.

UK FLAG? WHERE? WHERE? WHERE?

oh wait... i see IT!!! YAY!!! haha... that's cool! :lol:

It is done!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/AstonDBS.jpg

Hah! It's Steller!!!

And I just now noticed that the front bumper is not the original? Make it yourself eh?

^ It's actually the original bumper, but I did tweak it slightly. Not enough to be noticeable.

New one I'm working on.

Lexus LF-A Roadster Xpeed version :)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/LF-ARoadster.jpg

Heh, it kinda looks like an RX-8/S2000 hybrid type thing.

Oh yeah, forgot this one
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Maserati-01.jpg

Eh? never seen that model of Aston Martin before...

It's a Maserati Gran Turismo. =_=

Wow, lol no wonder the grill looked so wierd. Lol, sorry, I don't know my cars lately lmao.

Oh yeah, forgot this one
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Maserati-01.jpg


It took me a second to realize that was a drawing >_<

Updates

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/LF-ARoadster-04.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/LF-ARoadster-03.jpg

Do you like use a magnifying glass to put those decals in there so well?

^ What? Hahaha, no. The only tools I use are my pencils and a ruler, but mostly my pencils. :) I hardly use a ruler.

Well you must put your face pretty darn close, because my decals look like little squares,circles, and squiggles even if I try.

Hehe, kind off. I use a 0.5 and 0.3 mechanical pencils for things that need finer attention to.

so u do put ur face to the paper then eh?

Not really, the closest I get to the paper is 1 foot away.

lol, doesn't seem like it

wow! that's great...you could draw a car.....
me im more on people like those anime i like
its so nice it is like a true car
you like cars.....

lol, wow... but great job none the less like always xspeed

Update!


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/LF-ARoadster-06.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/LF-ARoadster-05.jpg

It's done!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Argh.png

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/LF-ARoadster-09.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/LF-ARoadster-08.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/LF-ARoadster-07.jpg

Right headlight looks a little odd, rear spoiler looks a little bent with reference to rest of car, also.. is it me or is the front wheel larger than the back one?

all in all, great work as always

lol, just noticed the wheels too, I have trouble with that all the time on my cars... It kinda looks like the rear end of the car has lower suspension than the front heheh...

As for the headlights, I would think that since it's going in at an angle, it has a sharper look to the right sight from the view angle.

lol, just noticed the wheels too, I have trouble with that all the time on my cars... It kinda looks like the rear end of the car has lower suspension than the front heheh...

As for the headlights, I would think that since it's going in at an angle, it has a sharper look to the right sight from the view angle.

The wheels is closer to the viewer so it looks like it's bigger but it isn't. The picture just makes it look weird for some reason.

Yeah I know that, it's just that the angle at which the car is set at kinda throws it off a bit, and makes it look like the car is kinda going along a bit evenly with the viewer rather go off into a vanishing point

that sum sick stuff mate, how long did it take u?

Average time is around 8 hours.

Here's my current work in progress

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/RX-7-01.jpg

Looks great, and that's a nice car to start with :)

woow!! your so lucky to have talent like that

Just finished it!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/SciontC.jpg

wow your really good... :)

Wow... I'm speechless. The shading looks so professional. Are you going into some art/design major?

^ I'm already in the field :)

Here's three drawings I'm currently working on.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Ranger-01.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/RX-7-03.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/R32-01.jpg

Finish the pickup truck first :)

Next you should draw this:
http://i37.tinypic.com/34flaid.jpg

eww, I don't really like Spyker. Maybe one day.

Here's my recent work

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC01614.jpg

Nice work! ^_^

Finished this last night.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Ranger-04.jpg

You can draw really really well! , good job

New one!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Tiburon.jpg

woah,
your cars are really good!
excellent work =)

OH man, I thought I posted this but I guess I didn't.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Chaser-01.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Phoebe-03.jpg

Currently working on this one.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/DSC01671.jpg

:lol:Those are very good

HOLY CRAP.

o_o

Excellent job speed, keep up the great work!

New one I'm working on.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/GT-R-01-1.jpg

wow. Im a full paid artist and Im impressed ;P
Im not good with the cars and stuff.

I'll have to show ya some stuff once I get that stupid scanner bulb >.<

Nice to see you come back to the R35 Speed!

And I see you've added a different spoiler as well

great job.

I think you should try making the tooth of the paper stand out less though. Try one of those paper cone things, cloth, or your finger (although this could lead to problems b/c of oil). anyway, that will give those drawings a smoother tone, as real cars do. Oh, and be sure to really boost the contrast in your drawings (have pitch black and pure white).
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Tiburon.jpg
that one is getting there, but i still think you can push it more.

^ my drawings have dark contrasts in person. I tone it down and lighten it when I post it up because it's too dark to see the details when I took the picture. As for the blending, I never use my finger. I use various tools, like blending stumps, q-tips, and stretchy erasers. :) Also, I can do the conventional shading technique to make it look more realistic, but I prefer my style of rendering since I don't use any photos or references for shades. But I will try one out again in the future for old times sake.

Anyways, I'm done with the Blazer. (I wish I can buy a huge scanner for my big drawings) XD

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Blazer-02.jpg

sugoi!(...or is that against the forum rules...:\)wow! did you seriously draw that? i can only draw anime-style people...somewhat:heh:

Another one! Time for me to sleep now.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/G37-01.jpg

sugoi!(...or is that against the forum rules...:\)wow! did you seriously draw that? i can only draw anime-style people...somewhat:heh:

Yes, unless you provide a translation everytime you use random Japanese words, which kind of eliminates the need of the Japanese words in the first place, and you might as well use the English words right away XD

^ It kind of reminds me of an Otaku irony.

New one! I will be finishing this one soon.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/IS-01.jpg

xspeed, your drawings are amazing. You astound me every with every new addition. Great job!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/DSC01956.jpg

Wow, they're awesome. I haven't seen any of your drawings until recently, and, wow. I've always had trouble drawing things that aren't alive, dunno why, but eh well. Anyhow's, awesome drawings!

Is that a lexus?

Grace us with a tut? or a step by step of yer next drawing lol just kinda every couple hours if you remember, your work is awesome (you know this...) so itd be cool to have an insight on "how it happens" lol

Thanks for the comment. I think I've posted a tut here before.

New ones!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/SilviaS15-01.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Ferrari250Concept-01.jpg

Kool!! Cars!

Finished this last week!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/IS200-02.jpg

I love it how you tilt the front wheels on an angle. It makes the headlights feel like eyes, and that they're looking in the same direction as the front wheels.

My gosh... your. perspective. is. PERFECT! Cars and buildings are notoriously hard to draw well. These are almost photo-realistic! Wow, I like the variations in pencil hardness too. *drools*

And this is coming from someone who doesn't like cars! *bows to you*

Why thank you for your kind words. I do try to improve in each drawings.

Absolute genius =)

great design , i love it

New one!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/DSC02107.jpg

front makes me think viper...for some reason, rear lights make me think audi and rear bumper looks cool...but I have no idea what it is. could it be a TVR or something like that? (not familiar with their models :S) top makes me think porsche too O_o

Blah! confusing me!

^ It is a TVR Sagaris. I modified the rear bumper a bit so it might be hard to be recognizable.

I painted this back in high school. It was a gift to my friend years ago, but she wanted to give it back to me which kind of broke my heart a bit....her reason was ridiculous too, but never mind that, onto the pic.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Belldandy.jpg

=(i hope you are alright.

it's beautifully painted. :sweat: can't stop staring at it haha

Wow update!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/S2000-05.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/S2000-04.jpg

Incredible, really. I love everything you draw

OMG@_@@_@@_@@_@@_@u've drawn AWESOME things here! i cant draw:cry::cry::cry:

Damn, xspeed! You draw great cars. I dare you to "invent" a new one.

I actually just came in here to ask if you had anything besides cars to show us, since you seem to have a good deal of talent. I like the anime girl, so do you have anymore? =)
It'd be cool to see what you doodle for fun and stuff, hahah.

I do doodle, but it's mostly for my profession so I don't usually share those.

Huh, you're a pro? I thought the last I heard, you were studying to become a car designer or something? That was awhile ago, though...

No, I'm was taking classes for graphic designing. I'm currently a Motion graphics/Graphic Designer. Being a car designer was my dream.

I'm currently a Motion graphics/Graphic Designer. Being a car designer was my dream.
That sounds awesome, if vague. Who do you work for/what do you do, exactly? Were you the one who posted those cool watch ads awhile back? Is that the sort of thing you're doing now?
And what do you mean "was" your dream? You still draw a hell of a lot of cars, you bastard! ;P

Anyway, good work in this thread, as always. Still hope to see some more non-car arts from you, though, since I usually like those the most!

^ Yeah, that was me, I do everything from web design to logos and advertising posters and images. I'm self employed and currently a freelance graphic designer. I'm also in the process of starting my t-shirt design company. I wanted to be a car designer as my dream job.....but no can do with this economy.

Yeah, that was me, I do everything from web design to logos and advertising posters and images. I'm self employed and currently a freelance graphic designer. I'm also in the process of starting my t-shirt design company.
Ah, cool. I liked those designs you showed off back then.

I wanted to be a car designer as my dream job.....but no can do with this economy.
Oh? I was under the impression that cars were still being made. ;)
Well, keep at it either way. The economy can't stay bad forever, and even if it did, with enough skill, somebody'd hire you regardless. Good luck! =)

^ It's not that, it's that I can't afford a $80k per year school to become a car designer.

Just show them your drawings. They'll let you in ;)

^ It's not that, it's that I can't afford a $80k per year school to become a car designer.
There aren't cheaper alternatives? D:
If there aren't, work towards scholarships or something? Have you seen the art work from college "art" students? Most of it is embarrassingly bad. You're probably better than 90% of the students that have graduated with an art degree already. = \

^ Haha, not for the school I want to go to. The school I want to go to guarantees you a job for one of the major car companies mainly because your project is viewed by various car companies looking for new concepts.

Updates on the S2000 and a new commissioned work

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/S2000-09.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/S2000-08.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Mustang-03.jpg

The detailing on the s2000 is just wow.

and :o

mustang :P

Beautiful work!

http://swipelife.com/2009/11/10/50th-anniversary-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-concept/
draw that one next :D

The S2000 looks a bit overdone with the ventilation holes x_x

The S2000 looks a bit overdone with the ventilation holes x_x

xpeed, don't listen to him. take it from me, it looks jaw-droppingly awesome

It's a Amuse Kit so I can't do anything there. That's how it looks. It's either you hate it or love it. I only drew it because I liked the stance of the angle I drew it in.

New one!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Mustang-04.jpg

Nice, I always love looking at your drawings, I can almost hear it now..... (imagines a v16 roaring away).

Just a suggestion but have you ever thought about drawing something more old school?

Again, awesome job:lol:

I've been thinking about doing some old classics but haven't had the time do so and interest mostly.

Oh forgot to post this. Finished the Mustang, and don't tell me how the rear tyre looks, I know it looks weird and I don't need hundreds of people telling me the same thing. HAHA!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Mustang-04.jpg

Got some work done on this drawing....it's taking me forever to finish it.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/S2000-02-1.jpg

The last one you posted looks a lot better than most of the other ones I think, mostly because it looks like you got lucky with the flash this time. You might want to invest in a scanner (they're like twenty dollars; you must use that much money a week on lead) - your work looks a lot better when it's well lit. It looks like you're losing a lot of contrast by using the camera instead of a scanner. Anyway, good work, as always. I'm liking the shininess on the fin back there. It's a very convincing looking reflection. =)

Careful with the rear bumper, though. Looks like it's getting lost in the shadows right now. But again, that could be for lack of scanner...

^ Thanks. The reason why I don't use the scanner is because the drawing is huge. Oh yeah, here's a photo of how big the drawings is. I don't think the scanner I need to scan this work is $20. More like $500 for a decent big scanner. ahaha.

The car is done but I still need a background.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/S2000-03-1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/S2000-04-1.jpg

xpeed, don't listen to him. take it from me, it looks jaw-droppingly awesome

You're an idiot. I thought he had designed that bodykit by himself and I'm free to give my opinion. If he had indeed designed it by himself maybe it actually helps him to improve, instead of everyone just going "OMIGOSH THATS AWESUM~~!~!! one"

I'm not talking drawing quality here, that's amazing, just the design of the bodykit itself.

^ Haha Neko and you're honesty. Yeah, I never designed the kit myself, it's an existing kit. Like I said, either you love it or hate it. Plus, I think you would know by now Neko that it's not my style to design kits like that. :P

holy pantalones! okay. first thing's first. i can see that you are a great artist. it's not everyday to see these kinds of drawings. i have come to appreciate that actually. don't get me wrong or anything.. but it seems like you are starting to use more blending technique in your shading. it's pretty nice.. but i think you should consider some more... contrast. i'm no master shader either... in fact i don't shade at all... heh. but i do when i have to. maybe it's because it's colorless. but some of them just seem like they are under a cloudy sky.

^ thanks. I choose not to make them too dark...only because the paper is too smooth and I don't like it too dark.

I agree with him though, speed. A lot of your cars seem like they could do with more interesting reflections going on. As it is now, it looks like they're all place in empty space/like they're made out of a very diffuse plastic. We should be getting clearer reflections of the sky and ground at least, in my opinion.

You might be neglecting this to show the detail of the car, or for any number of other reasons, but I think your cars would look a lot more interesting with some more realistic lighting going on. Compare your works with: http://oh-yeah89.deviantart.com/art/Muscle-Car-70576327
Notice the very sharp highlights; his drawings go from almost pure black to an almost-white very quickly, whereas most of yours slowly shade from one value to another, and stick to mid-tones for most of the canvas. You need more contrast, man! Cars are shiny!

My guess is that you've grown a little complacent. You obviously started off drawing exactly what to see to learn what you know now, but I think as of now you might just be pumping out cars without really studying your references HARD. (And if you're not using references, then I'm going to throw you into a lake). Remember to draw what you SEE, not what your mind is TELLING you you see. Like I said, I think you're starting to draw in symbols, instead of just looking at and really absorbing your references.

^ thanks. I choose not to make them too dark...only because the paper is too smooth and I don't like it too dark.
Complacency! It doesn't matter what you like. If you're working off a reference, you shouldn't be choosing much of anything. If the reference is dark, make it dark, you bastard! =P
When you can draw cars like the one I gave you off the top of your head, then maybe you can start deciding whether or not you should make your cars dark or whatever, hahah!
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So...looking forward to your next one! Hopefully posted alongside your reference, and hopefully impossible to tell it *from* your reference! ;)
Ah, and just one more aside: you mentioned before that you didn't like the old muscle cars and such, and that's why you never draw them. That may be true, but I think it'd do you some good to draw a few anyway, along with some pickup trucks, old thirties gangster cars, buses, and any other vehicle you can think of. Drawing new shapes would probably be a great step to getting you back to studying your references instead of just relying on your own judgment for a lot of your work. Plus, you want to be a car designer, right? It's important to draw different types of cars then, whether you like them or not. If you keep on drawing Japanese cars with fins on the back of them, your designs will suffer for it. All car designs have at least a *few* interesting things about them; the more you pick up, the better off you'll be later on, I think!

Regular old life drawings would probably help you, too, actually. Anything besides Japanese cars!

Anyway! All just my humble opinion. Feel free to completely ignore all my advice if you don't think it suits you. You probably know what you need better than I do; I just figured I'd give you a little reminder in case you'd forgotten, heheh! Good luck, whatever you end up deciding to draw! XD

Edit: Actually, I just bookmarked that guy's Deviantart; he's a fucking monster: http://oh-yeah89.deviantart.com/art/Aston-Martin-DB9-58854421
His stuff actually looks more convincing than photos would, I think. Really awesome work. You should check out his whole gallery, some really interesting stuff!

Thanks for your input. Just to let you know if you didn't already, I don't use reference photos or such when I shade my drawings. I only use references when I'm stuck or forgot how the car looked like.

As for the Japanese cars I draw, it's because I only manage to finish the Japanese cars drawings first. I have dozens of unfinished drawings in my room in storage. There are a few muscle, European, and classics I haven't gotten to. >< Haha. But thanks for your honesty. I appreciate it, helps me improve and see it at a different perspective. Right now though, I'm really busy with work and school, but when I do have free time, I am going to try out doing it in color. Also I'm starting to go back to portraits since I want to get better in drawing people. So look out for those in the future. Thanks for continuing supporting and giving me advices.

-cheers

Very nice drawing your style is so unique and excellent, especially shading is very good. You are quite talented.

Thanks for your input. Just to let you know if you didn't already, I don't use reference photos or such when I shade my drawings. I only use references when I'm stuck or forgot how the car looked like.
I didn't know, but to be blunt, I'm not surprised either; the skill shown in regards to the shapes of your cars and perspective and stuff is very high, and compared to the average skill shown in the shading, doesn't match up at all. I figured you were either very quickly skimming over your references just to remember what your cars looked like, or not using references at all. Again, though, your drawing skill is high. With a few months of referencing-practice, you could probably do decent reflections off the top of your head as well as the outlines. (So I'll suggest you use references one more time. XD )


As for the Japanese cars I draw, it's because I only manage to finish the Japanese cars drawings first. I have dozens of unfinished drawings in my room in storage. There are a few muscle, European, and classics I haven't gotten to. >< Haha. But thanks for your honesty. I appreciate it, helps me improve and see it at a different perspective. Right now though, I'm really busy with work and school, but when I do have free time, I am going to try out doing it in color. Also I'm starting to go back to portraits since I want to get better in drawing people. So look out for those in the future. Thanks for continuing supporting and giving me advices.
Sounds good. Though again, I'd love to see the reference you use (use reference!) for your next drawing. I think you'll be surprised at how much better your next drawing comes out if you study a reference instead of just drawing it off the top of your head; you'll learn a lot more, too.

Remember, using references doesn't just teach you things. Not using references and drawing things incorrectly is going to have the double-negative effect of actually teaching you bad habits that'll be harder to break the more solid they become. Your cars, for example, all have the same gradient-gray shading going on; if you'd used more references earlier on, you'd probably have acquired the habit of doing more realistic shading and reflections, instead of the shading you're doing now.

Anyway, keep at it.

^ heh, thanks. I've actually done some realistic shadings before and I didn't like it because I felt it really didn't distinguish my own style from other artists that do the same. Plus, it's a way for me to recognize my own work if someone steals it and states it as their own, in which I've actually caught a few. =) But I will use references when I use color. Maybe I'll use real references when I shade in color than pencil only because pencil is easier for me to use and that I like to pic my own light source instead of being limited to the picture. =D

Like this one for example. I used a photo reference. Drawn four years ago.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Tiburonfinal.jpg

And this one
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/bmwdots.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC00073.jpg

I've actually done some realistic shadings before and I didn't like it. . . .
I have nothing to say to this that wouldn't sound incredibly rude, so I'm going to just let you read that again. I will take the liberty of saying that you're too good of an artist to hide behind excuses like that. Take a look at this again: http://oh-yeah89.deviantart.com/art/Muscle-Car-70576327
Could you honestly look someone in the eye and say you'd rather draw the way you do than like that? If it helps, I don't even need to think to know who I'd hire to concept up my next car.

Scolding aside, your newest color picture is looking good, but it's obvious you're more comfortable with a regular pencil than with color. I'd still like to see some black and white using a reference from you!
Edit: Oh, didn't see it was so old. That'd explain why it looks a little wonky compared to your newer stuff; I thought you were having trouble with the tools, but you just weren't as good back then.

You might want to join another art forum besides this one. I'd suggest a few, but I don't know if that's against the rules or not. (Mods?) I will say that since you're a concept artist, a forum that specializes in Concept Art, maybe an ORGanization might be a good start for you. Thar be dragons over there.
This place is fun and all, but I don't think enough serious critique goes on here; you'd be crucified for the comment I quoted you on in the beginning of my post at the other art forums I frequent. CRUCIFIED. ON A CROSS! Well, maybe not. But people would yell at you, at least.

^Yeah very true what you're saying and yes, I would say, "I rather use my style over that." I'm just saying that I like my style better and I am trying to improve on every drawing. I do change some of my tools time to time to see which suits me better. I do have one drawing that I am going to use for reference soon so I'll actually try it out. The reason why I don't like to use reference is because I don't want it to look too similar with other artist's work. Just the main reason why, but I am edging myself closer and closer to it on each of my work. Like my S2000 for example, I did use some photo references on it but seems like the paper wasn't agreeing with my dark shades so I might need to change my paper too along the way.

Thanks for keep on pushing me though. You convinced me to try using reference again. As for other forums, I do visit 5 other forums. Compared to them, you seem to give me the most in detail critique and I appreciate it. Other artists don't bother or they feel they're too good to help others out. The one site I frequently go to is autodrawings.net. It's a nice website where most car artists visits and post their work and leave feedback or critiques. Some don't know what they're talking about, but they try. =) THanks again.

S2000 (Wished I had a big scanner that way all the darks will appear darker.)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/S2000-05-1.jpg

Yeah very true what you're saying and yes, I would say, "I rather use my style over that." I'm just saying that I like my style better and I am trying to improve on every drawing.
Fair enough, but...

The reason why I don't like to use reference is because I don't want it to look too similar with other artist's work.
....I think I could find more artists who draw similar to you than I could artists who draw similar to that other guy. It's fine if you can draw like him and choose not to, but I *don't think you could draw like him, even if you wanted/needed to.* Which isn't meant to be demeaning or insulting; I've never met anyone who could come close to that kind of artwork, and I've seen very few even on the internet and such who could. I just think that if you're going to use a certain style, it should be by choice, and right now, I don't think you have a *choice* between the two styles. What if one of your car clients prefers drawings like the one I linked you to over yours? It's fine if you want to draw the way you do (even though I'd personally prefer the other guy's, though your work is also great), but you need to be versatile if you plan on being a professional artist, right?

Like my S2000 for example, I did use some photo references on it but seems like the paper wasn't agreeing with my dark shades so I might need to change my paper too along the way.

You might try using charcoal for your darker shades. I started using charcoal along with my pencils a few days ago, and it's fucking *awesome.* You can get ridiculously dark tones with it, and it won't get all shiny the way graphite does. Really cool!

Thanks for keep on pushing me though. You convinced me to try using reference again. As for other forums, I do visit 5 other forums. Compared to them, you seem to give me the most in detail critique and I appreciate it. Other artists don't bother or they feel they're too good to help others out. The one site I frequently go to is autodrawings.net. It's a nice website where most car artists visits and post their work and leave feedback or critiques. Some don't know what they're talking about, but they try. =) THanks again.
Hai, no problem. As for your latest picture, the reflections on the fin are getting there, but the rest is still a little matte looking for me. It may very well just be your style and a high level of skill is definitely being shown, but I still think the other guy's work would be more preferred by the average person, which is what counts for professional art! If you wanted to know for sure, you could always link to your work and the other guys work on another forum, and ask which everyone preferred. Only way to find out, I guess. Sometimes I post pictures I think totally suck, and everyone thinks they're great. Other times I post pictures I think are awesome, and everyone thinks they're mediocre. Sometimes it's best to just flat-out ask people which they think is better; if gives you good perspective into how other people view your work compared with the work of others.

Anywayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, keep up the good work. All of this car artwork is making me want to draw a car or two too. = =;;
I think mine would be something like one of those old thirties gangster cars though. Or maybe an old Volkswagon beetle. XD

Edit: Just wondering, do you use a blending stick or totillon for your drawings?

Haha, thanks for being dead honest. And yes, I use both. I use a blending stump and tortillons on my work.

And you know what, I will take your challenge. I will try to draw like that guy and you can be the judge once I'm done. It'll be a good challenge for me. As for the style, I'm sticking with mine and I will keep on improving it over time and I've been doing pretty well selling them for the past six years so I must be doing something right. =D

and now maybe you can charge them more for your work (time). haha.

Haha, thanks for being dead honest. And yes, I use both. I use a blending stump and tortillons on my work.
I'm always dead honest! And I asked because I could see the pencil texture in your work much more than I can in his, which is one of the reasons I prefer his. Maybe it's your paper or something, though. Or he might be shading with tighter strokes than you are. I'm not good enough with pencils to really say accurately, hahah.

And you know what, I will take your challenge. I will try to draw like that guy and you can be the judge once I'm done. It'll be a good challenge for me. As for the style, I'm sticking with mine and I will keep on improving it over time and I've been doing pretty well selling them for the past six years so I must be doing something right. =D
Hahah, that's the spirit!
I'm trying to get to his level too, so let's race to the top! =D

And keep in mind what Ander said; I never said you weren't doing anything right - it's obvious there are a *lot* of things you're doing right. I'm just pointing out things I think you could improve on, according to my own (and Ander's?) tastes, at least. And like I said, professional artists need to be able to draw in as many different ways as possible, just in case their customers are assholes like me. XD

I'm looking forward to your next piece. After you're done yours (or maybe before, depending on how long you take), I'll probably try a car too, so you can get your critiquing revenge on me. I'm working on portraits right now, but I'm having the same problem I said you were having, which is that I'm making way too much crap up, especially in the hair area, so my drawings aren't nearly as realistic looking as they should be. As soon as I solve that problem in my portraits, I want to try cars or trains or some other kind of mechanical drawing. Because I've never done mechanical work before, and all these cool car drawings flying around are making my hands itchy!

Haha. Well said. I will look forward to yours too sir. Godspeed.

SPEEED, Hot diggidy it's been a while. More like 1 or 2 or 3 years a while.

Man, your drawings are looking better than ever. I've actually drawn a angle view of the GT-500 Eleanor from "Gone in 60 Seconds". And my, it's probably the best I've drawn. And I can thank it all to some of the methods you used in your drawings.

I hate to necro your thread, but I felt it was necessary to give a warm hello to an old car artist.

As for the perspective and reflecting of light. Cars are very very difficult objects to imitate onto paper in terms of perspective. There are so many different areas and angles of which light is refracted and reflected mainly because of the glossy paint that is so commonly applied to them. And it's even harder to apply this imitation with just a pencil and darkened tones.

But despite that, I've seen car artists that have attempted to imitate this effect to its truest but it's really hard and most if not, all fail unless they use high end digital technology with integrated renderers that automatically calculate and generate light references and perspectives. Which sort of takes out the fun in terms of the effort.

It has been a while. How you been Crimson?

My current work in progress after months of not drawing.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/_DSC0134.jpg

dang.. i certainly like the headlight. i won't say anything more, for i don't want to comment on the developing piece.

Woah, the perspective on the front-wheel is amazing.

I've been on and off, I really haven't been drawing much. But I've just started up again. I'm in the process of drawing the Mine's Skyline R34 which is just pure sexiness.

Nice Silvia! I just love em, especially when you do a conversion on a S14 to the front end and a SR20 swap.

This make me want to get a car, lol.

All the cars are very lovely. I just wish to see bigger variety.

What tool are you using to make your white "lines"? Elastic eraser, Pencil eraser, thin eraser, pen, or something else?

Gosh, it's been over a year since I joined Ichigos, and while going through 27 pages, I almost died of embarrassment when I saw my first post(and only post until now) and the responses to that in this thread, since I never saw them until now. Lolz.

Since I know almost nothing about cars, please correct me if I'm wrong when I say this, but it feels like the tires are...thin?
Also, I'm being highly critical so you can probably ignore me when I say this, but I think you should use a blending stump(or just smudge with your fingers) in the opposite direction of your pencil shading. Without a a lot of light reflection, I feel like I'm looking at wood =/...and it's not just this one(which is unfinished), I noticed it in some others too (don't know how many, and I'm not really going to go back through 27 pages to count).

Other than that, I always find your artwork(esp. realistic) amazing, and am amazed at how you keep everything so clean XD.

^ I do use blending stumps. Smudging with your fingers a big "no-no" for artists. The oil on your fingers will cause smears that won't be erasable later on. As for the streaks, it's my staple feature of my renderings but I will be changing that. The Silvia is my last work where it'll have those lines. I've made some improvements since I posted it. You'll see the major improvements in the final piece soon.

Nyu001 - I don't use a tool. I just shade around it. I draw a light line where I the white lines will be and I shade it within those lines. =) I have good hand-eye coordination.

^ I do use blending stumps. Smudging with your fingers a big "no-no" for artists. The oil on your fingers will cause smears that won't be erasable later on.

:O...that explains so much for me. Thank you very much, and with that knowledge, I will go buy a blending stump and never smudge with my hands again(I always used the side of my pinky. Thought I had a bad eraser or something when those smears came up and wouldn't erase).

Nyu001 - I don't use a tool. I just shade around it. I draw a light line where I the white lines will be and I shade it within those lines. =) I have good hand-eye coordination.

Cool, I should try that in the future. =)

Since I know almost nothing about cars, please correct me if I'm wrong when I say this, but it feels like the tires are...thin?

Other than that, I always find your artwork(esp. realistic) amazing, and am amazed at how you keep everything so clean XD.

They are supposed to be like that. They are racing tires meant to get more traction on a smooth track. Or maybe even for drifting, not sure, never really compared.

Okay, that makes sense. I just looked up some Google images of racing cars, and they were all like that, lolz.

Edit:

@Nyu001.


"Originally Posted by RainingSilver64 View Post"
Nyu001 - I don't use a tool. I just shade around it. I draw a light line where I the white lines will be and I shade it within those lines. =) I have good hand-eye coordination."


Cool, I should try that in the future. =)


I didn't post that.

My expression: OMG, thats amazing.... omg.

Your drawings amaze me. :3

It has been a while. How you been Crimson?

My current work in progress after months of not drawing.
Heh, drawing like the example we agreed on wasn't as easy as you thought, huh? Don't feel bad; I overestimated myself too, hahah.
I haven't drawn in months, either...

Some update.....eeyah, doesn't seem much changed hahahah!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/S15-01-1.jpg

Some update.....eeyah, doesn't seem much changed hahahah!
Oh well, hahah. At least we'll both have something to keep us busy for awhile yet. XD

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! these drawings are reaaaaaaaaly good!! well more than good! EXCELLENT!!! wel...more than that!

it's really good. only thing i really really really have to say is that... the front rim. i first thought it was kinda misshaped, but i think it's the first two arms(?), bars(?)... i don't know the correct name for them... but yeah... those two that are closest to us should be a little bigger than the rest. to me they seem to be narrower than the rest. everything else is awesome possum. like the right corner of the car! it's looks like a photo! a friggin' photo!

hope you know what i mean.

hehe, they're called "spokes" and actually, I used a reference for the rims and oddly, they're angled that way.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Advans.jpg

i didn't have any problem with the rims... but yeah. the spokes. the place where the spokes start is not really straight up and down compare to the wheel itself. it's kinda off balanced. to me the top right of the oval shaped, where the spokes begin to extend out from the center, is far wider than the rest. i would suggest that you fix the bottom right of that by maybe making it lighter, or shave it off a little bit so it is more in shape of an oval... or just make it more defined.

by the way... did you make the right head light (the one in the center) more defined compared to the left one?

Oh, I see what you mean. I'll fix that, it does seem lighter and harder to tell.

Yeah, I made the right headlight more detailed than the left one only because it's further away from the viewer so it'll be less detailed. I wanted that effect.

Finally done with the Silvia!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/xspeed/Silvia.jpg

wow. i'm very impressed. i can see that your going for that realistic looks with everything you do. the realist, one might say. i still feel uncomfortable with the spokes i mentioned earlier. i still think it's not very "even". if i have to add one more to that... the pipe looking things in the things the air goes through to cool off the front breaks are too bright, despite the fact that they are underneath the cars. maybe you did it on purpose for the viewers to realize that they are there, but i still think it's too bright.

what i definitely like is the sharp vs. the blur. i also like the way you drew the steering wheel. finally, i love the fact that the front windshield is see through while the sides are tinted. it's kinda like my car, except the front two windows and the windshields are not tinted while the 2 back small windows and the back window is tinted dark.

glad you finished it.

^ Thanks for the comment. I tried to fix the spoke but i guess it didn't really do much. As for the piping (they're pipes for the intercooler), I tried to get that chrome effect, guess I have to darken it a bit more.

Wow, has it really been that long since I last posted my work?

Well here is my new one I'm working on. It's a present for a friend who drives this car and I'm hoping she'll like it.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/S2000-03.jpg

SIIIIICK!!!!!

Some progress on it.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/S2000-05.jpg


More to come soon. ;)

More progress

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/S2000-06.jpg

Cool cool.


Wish I had more to say, but yeah, it's pretty awesome. =)

Jeez, been a long time.

Here's what I've been working on. Sorry for the crappy photo. My friend has my DSLR.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/008-4.jpg

sweet jesus... Dat rendering :)

Better quality!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/g35-02.jpg

Me when seeing your drawing -> OWO

the drawing was cool...

i also want to learn how to draw..

I was bored.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Eggs.jpg

Well, I say you should be bored more often