Quality over quantity, but quality goes with quantity [sold].

Look at the GCN; it was alright but didn't sell like crazy. Same with the N64. Then look at all the hype and great sells the SNES and NES had. People aren't going to buy something just because of a name on it, and even if they do, I hope sales don't make people over look the fact of people actually enjoying the game.

And that while the N64 was a good product, but people went for the playstation hype instead. This was because the N64 (and the NGC also) was released way too late and everybody had already bought a PSX instead. With the NGC (What retard thought up GCN?) people already had PS2's. The Xbox didn't do that great either, you know? Answer: too late on the market, people already bought something else.

With Final Fantasy, there's no competition. The only competition to the FF series came from Square itself, with Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana. Series Square pretty much killed off in order to get more FF sales, which is the most popular game and doesn't need innovation.

I think Final Fantasy X is the best as it has the best graphics and storyline (characters : Tidus =) , Yuna =), Auron =) , ...etc.)

hm... i think they should remake VII as it had good gameplay but horrible graphics to match the good storyline

:)

I think Final Fantasy X is the best as it has the best graphics and storyline (characters : Tidus =) , Yuna =), Auron =) , ...etc.)

hm... i think they should remake VII as it had good gameplay but horrible graphics to match the good storyline

:)

Depends on your definition of horrible graphics. Back in the days FF7 had the best graphics ever. It would be typical for Square to remake FF7 though. Less work, more money for them. I'll just sit here and laugh at people who buy a game they've already completed years ago.

lol seriously though.
I Feel that the graphics make the gameplay go much faster as you can sit back and "enjoy" the scenes and clips....although i would have to say that skipping scenes in FFX would be a great option to add (to any FF game)...

FF7 is so old that i had to download so many patches just for it to work on my pc lol
its designed to work in Windows 95... and THATS PRETTY OLD. :)

Depends on your definition of horrible graphics. Back in the days FF7 had the best graphics ever. It would be typical for Square to remake FF7 though. Less work, more money for them. I'll just sit here and laugh at people who buy a game they've already completed years ago.

The fans will greatly enjoy that game. SE will make money out of it. FF-bashers like yourself will have a good laugh at the first-mentioned.

Everybody happeh? Anyway, they did release that FF7 tech demo for the PS3 a while ago, but I'm pretty sure that is was just that, and that they won't make a new version of FF7 for any of the next-gen consoles.

That sucks for me since I only can borrow my friends game system and play it there... i dounbt they'll let me borrow the next-gen systems since they will be playing it alot...

I want FF7 on PS3!!!!! That would be so cool! \(^o^)/

But it probably won't happen... (-_-)

And I hope in like 10 years they'll remake FFX with the amazing graphics they have then... \(^v^)/

People like FF because it's FF.
I like Secret of Mana because it's good.

In other words, Square could bake a turd, put it in a box and put it on the shelves in shops with an FF logo on it, and people would buy it and say they like it. In fact, they already do this. I want more Secret of mana games >=[

Dirge of Cerebus anyone?

Point taken...

I want FF7 on PS3!!!!! That would be so cool! \(^o^)/
I agree wholeheartedly.




And I hope in like 10 years they'll remake FFX with the amazing graphics they have then... \(^v^)/

I disagree!

I disagree!

Wai?

Has any1 played dirge of cerebus yet ? :heh: apperantly it came out a while ago here but i havn't seen it in shops :(

the reviews sounded good

i want now !!!!! arrrrggghhh

There's nothing wrong with the FF series. I bet that if Secret of Mana would be the game which SE would spam out on instead of FF, then Angelic and HopelessComposer would rant about that -- wanting them to continue on with FF instead... Disliking a game because of its fans and hype is pretty dumb. Nothing that I can prove obviously, but that's what I think would happen ~

Didn't I just say FF was good too? :rolleyes:
And yes, if they spammed Mana instead of FF I'd be ranting about mana instead right now. Because if they spammed mana instead of FF, Mana's quality would degrade quickly, as FF's has. The point being they shouldn't spam ANYTHING.


Off Topic: A sequel to Xenogears? That would be the Xenosaga series, although it would be a prequel rather than a sequel.

Yeah, too bad Xenosaga is made by Namco and not Square. Also too bad that Xenogears > Xenosaga Hardxcorelololol. lol ;D

Has any1 played dirge of cerebus yet ? :heh: apperantly it came out a while ago here but i havn't seen it in shops :(

the reviews sounded good

i want now !!!!! arrrrggghhh

I rented it. Then I got stuck on the third level.

I called it "Shadow the Hedgehog with less bad language"

i loved dirge of cerberus...probably just because i love vincent though:heh: hehehe

I just started FFIX last night...ok so far, not the best FF...

final fantasy ix means nothing to me. its all about 7, 8, 10, 10-2, and 12

And that while, unlike every other FF after 6, 9 is a true FF game... :mellow:

Yeah, it's a lot like the old games...

I'm on disc 2 right now, at the part when you first meet Eiko.

Here´s a statement for you all:

FFX-2 is a poor excuse for a Final Fantasy game, FFX-2 is the Britney spears of the ff-series. It is quite crappy... true?

Yes I totally agree with the Administrator. Final Fantasy 9 in my opinion is like the real Final Fantasy. FF 6 was amazing. I hope they remake it in 3-D someday.

FFX-2 is a poor excuse for a Final Fantasy game, FFX-2 is the Britney spears of the ff-series. It is quite crappy... true?

False. I was not suprised that it did not meet peoples expectations, but I personally enjoyed the game(play). :mellow:

hmmm
ffx-2 was a bit mediocar, rather bland and all and all more of a final fantasy peep show than a true ff

and i totaly agree with tantan
ff9 was posible my favorite and was well plotted ^_^ i also loved ff6/ff3 great game :P the expressions in that game where out of this world

I used to hate FF9, but once I got around to playing it again, I really liked that game and got used to the characters much more. The whole setting of the game does indeed suit the "fantasy" theme as well as the characters. FF9 isn't one of my favourite FF games though, but a really good game still =)

I started in on these games when 7 came out and was immediately drawn into the rich worlds and storylines. I couldn't care less about graphics and the gameplay is not half as important as the plot and the characters in my opinion. Here is a list of all the FF games I hate and why
FFX: This one I actually kind of enjoyed but I'm putting it here because it marks the beginning of the decline. The love story reminded me of something I would see on the disney channel. This is when I began to realize that square was trying to market to a new audience **cough** kingdom hearts** **cough** catering to kids who watch Naruto and saturday morning cartoons all day**
FFX-2: Didn't play it, never going to. Man square, what happened?
FFXI: Hey I got an idea, lets stand in the same spot for forty minutes waiting for something to happen! Or lets make believe that we are playing Everquest!
FFXII: No character development, tedious dungeon fighting and a generic plot line? No thank you

And at last, Advent Children. Watching that movie made me feel like square had put a knife through my chest. FFVII is one of the few games that has ever truly touched my heart. Then Advent Children came along and shit all over it. The movie has NO plot (I don't consider the few minutes of basic dialogue in between ridiculously over the top battle scenes "plot", and how the hell is Rufus still alive?!). The remaining cast of the Shin-ra corporation become philanthropists without more than a few words of explanation. Plot lines that would be fruitful and interesting to develop (such as the relationship between Cloud and Tifa) are left undeveloped in favor of "The main bad guys from the game are back and Cloud has to beat them up". I don't see how anyone who played and enjoyed FFVII with their eyes open could not feel insulted by this movie. The creative staff at square has gone to shit... I guess I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed and hope the Chrono Break doesn't screw up that series.

FFX: This one I actually kind of enjoyed but I'm putting it here because it marks the beginning of the decline. The love story reminded me of something I would see on the disney channel. This is when I began to realize that square was trying to market to a new audience **cough** kingdom hearts** **cough** catering to kids who watch Naruto and saturday morning cartoons all day**

Whats wrong with that? We were kids when we played video games, is there a problem with changing styles for the next generation of children? Our parents and grandparents mock our current games compared to the ones they use to play.


FFX-2: Didn't play it, never going to. Man square, what happened?

They brought in a newer style of gameplay previous to before, probably to experiment. I enjoyed the freedom.


FFXI: Hey I got an idea, lets stand in the same spot for forty minutes waiting for something to happen! Or lets make believe that we are playing Everquest!

Unfortunately I don't like standing around so I go and do productive things in this game.


FFXII: No character development, tedious dungeon fighting and a generic plot line? No thank you

I agree.


And at last, Advent Children. Watching that movie made me feel like square had put a knife through my chest. FFVII is one of the few games that has ever truly touched my heart. Then Advent Children came along and shit all over it. The movie has NO plot (I don't consider the few minutes of basic dialogue in between ridiculously over the top battle scenes "plot", and how the hell is Rufus still alive?!). The remaining cast of the Shin-ra corporation become philanthropists without more than a few words of explanation. Plot lines that would be fruitful and interesting to develop (such as the relationship between Cloud and Tifa) are left undeveloped in favor of "The main bad guys from the game are back and Cloud has to beat them up". I don't see how anyone who played and enjoyed FFVII with their eyes open could not feel insulted by this movie.

Your expectations were too high.


I started in on these games when 7 came out and was immediately drawn into the rich worlds and storylines. I couldn't care less about graphics and the gameplay is not half as important as the plot and the characters in my opinion.

Go read a book.

yay! finally found it...
final fantasy xii?
i like everything except the battle system because it gets on my nerves. also vaan reminds me of an alien.

also vaan reminds me of an alien.
Come to think of it is´nt that what he is, in a sence?
:P

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Whats wrong with that? We were kids when we played video games, is there a problem with changing styles for the next generation of children? Our parents and grandparents mock our current games compared to the ones they use to play.

I wouldn't say anything is wrong with it, but it sure sucks. If square wanted to create a game with a new style for the next generation they could have created a new game. They did it with the Final Fantasy name because they knew the name would sell the product no matter how crappy it was. I hate to break it to you, but square isnt even trying anymore (and the people are still buying. its sad, really). The old Final Fantasy style was not only suited for children and adults (despite some of the adult content, but Im a pretty liberal so it doesnt bother me) but in a way educational. The content inspired players to think critically and expanded their imaginations. This is much better for children than the pop fairy tales they lamely pass out to us now.

Your expectations were too high.

It was the sequel to a great story, damn right my expectations were high. Not too high though. All I expected was some expansion on the story, you know, the thing that made people rant and rave about FFVII when it came out. They didnt even try. It doesnt even do good as an action movie, even though thats all it really is. How did you feel when you saw the team throw Cloud up into the air to fight Sephiroth at the end of the movie? I felt that was the corniest, most unrealistic moment in movie history. I can suspend my disbelief, but only so much. They may as well have thrown him into orbit for how ridiculous that scene was. My expectations weren't too high, Squaresoft's were too low. They expected their fans to be mindless drones that will buy anything with the FF name on it. Sadly, they were correct, but not in my case.

Go read a book.

Before FFX I felt like I was reading a book every time I jumped into a Final Fantasy. Then X came along and I felt like I was watching a poorly scripted but pretty movie.

My browser apparently doesnt support the multi-quote response so forgive me if this is a bit sloppy.

You can use the tags.


I wouldn't say anything is wrong with it, but it sure sucks. If square wanted to create a game with a new style for the next generation they could have created a new game. They did it with the Final Fantasy name because they knew the name would sell the product no matter how crappy it was. I hate to break it to you, but square isnt even trying anymore (and the people are still buying. its sad, really). The old Final Fantasy style was not only suited for children and adults (despite some of the adult content, but Im a pretty liberal so it doesnt bother me) but in a way educational. The content inspired players to think critically and expanded their imaginations. This is much better for children than the pop fairy tales they lamely pass out to us now.

It's a new generation because they like different things then the pass generation. Besides, if people continue to buy it then they clearly enjoy it. If you don't like it, stop supporting it by playing their games.


]It was the sequel to a great story, damn right my expectations were high. Not too high though. All I expected was some expansion on the story, you know, the thing that made people rant and rave about FFVII when it came out. They didnt even try. It doesnt even do good as an action movie, even though thats all it really is. How did you feel when you saw the team throw Cloud up into the air to fight Sephiroth at the end of the movie? I felt that was the corniest, most unrealistic moment in movie history. I can suspend my disbelief, but only so much. They may as well have thrown him into orbit for how ridiculous that scene was. My expectations weren't too high, Squaresoft's were too low. They expected their fans to be mindless drones that will buy anything with the FF name on it. Sadly, they were correct, but not in my case.

It was action filled, this pulls attention and money, like most movies (want) to do.


Before FFX I felt like I was reading a book every time I jumped into a Final Fantasy. Then X came along and I felt like I was watching a poorly scripted but pretty movie.

Then turn off your (console here) and read a book.

You can use the tags.

Thanks


It's a new generation because they like different things then the pass generation. Besides, if people continue to buy it then they clearly enjoy it. If you don't like it, stop supporting it by playing their games.

FFVII came out about ten years ago, a new generation hasnt even come yet. They've simply started marketing to kids: the games are easier to make and kids will buy anything. I know there are people that enjoy these games, I just think its sad. They could be playing games that enrich their minds but instead they play ones that turn the brain into mush. And anyway, I don't play their games anymore, except the old ones, so you dont really need to tell me to stop...


It was action filled, this pulls attention and money, like most movies (want) to do.
You're making my point for me. Exactly, its all about money now. FFI-IX were works of art, but X turned the series into a franchise. For a while squaresoft was a rare thing: a corporation that encouraged creativity. Now the only creativity they reward is on the marketing end.


Then turn off your (console here) and read a book.

Wow. You're totally missing the point but... whatever, this is getting boring

ehhhh i reckon ffx has some amazing, breathtaking and tastefull backgrounds and the story line unravelled perfectly..... sure its lost some of the old final fantasy heritage but its still a good game and does appeal to alot of the new generation of ff players

I can agree with you on the backgrounds:)

Thanks

You're welcome.


FFVII came out about ten years ago, a new generation hasnt even come yet. They've simply started marketing to kids: the games are easier to make and kids will buy anything. I know there are people that enjoy these games, I just think its sad.

Currently children rather play different games then we use to, so it's makes sense for Square to market to children. As long as they are making money and keeping part of the audience satisfied.


They could be playing games that enrich their minds but instead they play ones that turn the brain into mush.

I'm sure thats what our parents and grandparents use to believe.


And anyway, I don't play their games anymore, except the old ones, so you dont really need to tell me to stop...

My apologies.



You're making my point for me. Exactly, its all about money now. FFI-IX were works of art, but X turned the series into a franchise. For a while squaresoft was a rare thing: a corporation that encouraged creativity. Now the only creativity they reward is on the marketing end.

The series was always a franchise. All companies want to make money.

Well Meer, I've come to the conclusion that we arent going to get anywhere with this, you have your views and I have mine. I'm just glad we could have an actual debate about this rather than a flame war, unlike a lot of other message boards I've been to. You're a good sport:)

The creative staff at square has gone to shit...

So true.

So true.

Ditto.

FFXII was disappointing...

Graphics: Real time graphics have improved since FFX...but the FMV's haven't improved much, if at all.

Characters: Bland, undeveloped...pretty flat. Balthier looks, acts, and sounds like he should be in a Pirates of the Carribean movie...Vaan...I just didn't like him. He was annoying and emotionless...the VA's weren't very good...especially Vaan's...

Music: Annoying, repetitive, annoying, uncreative, and did I say annoying? I miss Nobuo...

Gameplay:
(((((>_<))))) I HATED the battle system!

Yeah, that's my mini-review... @-_-@

loved it

Ditto.

FFXII was disappointing...

Graphics: Real time graphics have improved since FFX...but the FMV's haven't improved much, if at all.

Characters: Bland, undeveloped...pretty flat. Balthier looks, acts, and sounds like he should be in a Pirates of the Carribean movie...Vaan...I just didn't like him. He was annoying and emotionless...the VA's weren't very good...especially Vaan's...

Music: Annoying, repetitive, annoying, uncreative, and did I say annoying? I miss Nobuo...

Gameplay:
(((((>_<))))) I HATED the battle system!

Yeah, that's my mini-review... @-_-@



wha??? nobuo's gone????:cry:
and
vaan looked like an alien

X-play gave FFXII a 5 out of 5..................

...no comment...

:O 5 out of 5 ?????

crazy

They gave DoC 2 out of 5...

Anyway, I finally beat FFIX!!!!! I would have beaten it sooner, but I had school...

I thought it was pretty easy for a FF game...only got stuck on two bosses: Nova Dragon and Kraken, and they were both on disc 4. Trance Kuja was pretty easy, but I think that was only because I had Zidane and Eiko in trance...when I beat the final boss, Zidane and Eiko were KO'd, Amarant was petrified, and Steiner was in berserk...

XD i love that game... finished it to many times to count

my final lineup is always Zidane Garnet Vivi and Stiener haha >.<

I'm Steiner, Zidane, Eiko, and Amarant...

I overabuse powerful characters...and Steiner's first in my lineup, cuz he's my favorite character! d---(^o^)---b Although I don't really know the significance of the lineup...

Steiner X Beatrix > Zidane X Garnet

My browser apparently doesnt support the multi-quote response so forgive me if this is a bit sloppy.

Whats wrong with that? We were kids when we played video games, is there a problem with changing styles for the next generation of children? Our parents and grandparents mock our current games compared to the ones they use to play.

I wouldn't say anything is wrong with it, but it sure sucks. If square wanted to create a game with a new style for the next generation they could have created a new game. They did it with the Final Fantasy name because they knew the name would sell the product no matter how crappy it was. I hate to break it to you, but square isnt even trying anymore (and the people are still buying. its sad, really). The old Final Fantasy style was not only suited for children and adults (despite some of the adult content, but Im a pretty liberal so it doesnt bother me) but in a way educational. The content inspired players to think critically and expanded their imaginations. This is much better for children than the pop fairy tales they lamely pass out to us now.

Your expectations were too high.

It was the sequel to a great story, damn right my expectations were high. Not too high though. All I expected was some expansion on the story, you know, the thing that made people rant and rave about FFVII when it came out. They didnt even try. It doesnt even do good as an action movie, even though thats all it really is. How did you feel when you saw the team throw Cloud up into the air to fight Sephiroth at the end of the movie? I felt that was the corniest, most unrealistic moment in movie history. I can suspend my disbelief, but only so much. They may as well have thrown him into orbit for how ridiculous that scene was. My expectations weren't too high, Squaresoft's were too low. They expected their fans to be mindless drones that will buy anything with the FF name on it. Sadly, they were correct, but not in my case.

Go read a book.

Before FFX I felt like I was reading a book every time I jumped into a Final Fantasy. Then X came along and I felt like I was watching a poorly scripted but pretty movie.

AC had a decent plot. At least it didn't deal with a generic evil vs. good. Also, I only see two or three FF's with good plots: VII and X. The rest were very generic evil over lord, fallen hero rises and saves the world type thing [or even more generic just good vs. evil]. So far, X and VII were the only ones I've seen with a plot that spread out into nooks and crannies.

And I enjoyed FF XII also. I saw it as more polotics based then the above.

but remember, things like these are preferences. ff fans complain when people say "ff is deh suxors halo rox" and throw around "preferences" thing all the time. It works both ways fyi.

I'm Steiner, Zidane, Eiko, and Amarant...

I overabuse powerful characters...and Steiner's first in my lineup, cuz he's my favorite character! d---(^o^)---b Although I don't really know the significance of the lineup...

Steiner X Beatrix > Zidane X Garnet

I always played Zidane, Steiner, Dagger and Vivi. I know technically speaking Eiko is a better character than Dagger, but she annoys me. Steiner is very strong, Vivi's magic rules. Zidane... is just there XD I don't know, his dyne is pretty good. I never liked Amarant much (stupid rooster) and Freya just didn't do it for me, either. Did I miss anyone? Ah yes, the big fat eat-everything guy... XD

Quina.


You can get him/her pretty strong, but alot of the time, his/her attack power is quite random, I think... s/he can learn some pretty good blue magic...

Yeah, Eiko kinda bugs me, too...I like Amarant's throw ability...

And get Steiner into trance late in the game, he hits for 9999 every time!

Oh yeah, Freya's a giant rat who thinks she's a kangaroo...

Steiner's trance is indeed awesome, and quite needed against the final boss IMO. Speaking of which, Necron was much too random.

I always played Zidane, Steiner, Dagger and Vivi. I know technically speaking Eiko is a better character than Dagger, but she annoys me. Steiner is very strong, Vivi's magic rules. Zidane... is just there XD I don't know, his dyne is pretty good. I never liked Amarant much (stupid rooster) and Freya just didn't do it for me, either. Did I miss anyone? Ah yes, the big fat eat-everything guy... XD

Vivi + Steiner = LOVE

I used Quina all the time. Sorta like how I used Cait Sith. Some how I got both to hit really high....

Sorry, I don't really see Vivi X Steiner...

But Zidane X Kuja = PWNAGE!!!!!

...yes, Necron was random...and a lot of his attacks had like a whole minute of animation...

Yay ! Angelic has the same line up as me XD woot !!!

Quina and Eiko = worst choice characters ever + quina kinda didn't really have any place in the story or the game s/he was kinda just... there for comical relief, like in disc two when s/he jumps of the bridge in Treno and ends up at Lindblum quite funny ^_^ and eiko just crapped me off >.< i only used her at Kuja's place when you needed to and also when you needed to break open the gate to Terra

Sorry, I don't really see Vivi X Steiner...

But Zidane X Kuja = PWNAGE!!!!!

...yes, Necron was random...and a lot of his attacks had like a whole minute of animation...

Kuja isn't even a playable character... I think RD meant that when you have Vivi and Steiner you can combine their attacks (so steiner strikes with fire/lightning/ice sword).

Kuja isn't even a playable character... I think RD meant that when you have Vivi and Steiner you can combine their attacks (so steiner strikes with fire/lightning/ice sword).

That proves that I think about Yaoi way too much...

I stopped using Vivi when all the fiends cast lvl 3 magic and I couldn't find the freakin' octagon rod...

couldn't find it....? you can buy it from just outside gulgar volcano can't you ? i think i got it pretty early but most way through the game now i just see how many equipment add-ons i can get up before i get bored out of my head and move on.... XD

I did find Vivi's ultimate weapon! But he was only on about level 35, and most of my party was in the late 40s-early 50s...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSw9m4AgwGs

It just works :)

wow@_@

AC had a decent plot. At least it didn't deal with a generic evil vs. good. Also, I only see two or three FF's with good plots: VII and X. The rest were very generic evil over lord, fallen hero rises and saves the world type thing [or even more generic just good vs. evil]. So far, X and VII were the only ones I've seen with a plot that spread out into nooks and crannies.

And I enjoyed FF XII also. I saw it as more polotics based then the above.

but remember, things like these are preferences. ff fans complain when people say "ff is deh suxors halo rox" and throw around "preferences" thing all the time. It works both ways fyi.

I strongly disagree with everything you just said, except the preferences thing. I'm too lazy to argue it, but I felt you deserved a response

They may as well have thrown him into orbit for how ridiculous that scene was. My expectations weren't too high, Squaresoft's were too low. They expected their fans to be mindless drones that will buy anything with the FF name on it. Sadly, they were correct, but not in my case.

What the f!ck? Did you even play FF7? I'm pretty sure Sephiroth blows up the sun about FIVE HUNDRED TIMES during the final battle. You came into watching AC expecting realism? XP

XD good point the hopeless

lol, thanks thanks. X3

Yeah. Once you see the first scene anyways, you should stop expecting realism.

Hell, after looking at the cover/poster you should stop.

what about in the credits at the end when he was riding through the meadows was that real enough ?

what about in the credits at the end when he was riding through the meadows was that real enough ?

LOL.

I loved AC, but it's just so easy to make fun of! I might make a flash parody of it (once I learn how to use flash...) It will include:

-Reno and Rude telling "Yo Momma" jokes to the silver-haired men (Also, Kadaj's crappy voice...)

-Parody of the scene when everyone's throwing Cloud up really high and then Aerith shows up and throws him too...(Everyone's talking about the unrealism of the movie, but they haven't mentioned this...)

-Barret = Mr. T (He looks less like him in AC, but he sounded too much like him, and he called somebody a fool, at one point! I forgot who, though...)

Otherwise, I loved the movie. Sephiroth looked hotter than ever!!!!!

Im awaiting that flash like its christmas

Otherwise, I loved the movie. Sephiroth looked hotter than ever!!!!!

Only if you like silver-haired emo men (kids isn't really appropiate) who clearly have to compensate for something :P

Well, I really liked the movie. It captured the qualities that made us fall in love with the characters the first time (the very bad 3-D graphic characters. I really wish they would remake FF7) and pushed us further in. I don't think there was much more they could have done to make it better.

The story could use some improvement, they could replace Sephiroth with a cool baddy, they could replace all other characters with cooler alternatives, in fact XD

XD so your saying they should replace the entire cast ??

If I said I were a die-hard fan I would be lying since I barely became interested in FF last year. The only game I have is FFX and in my opinion it's really well-made for a game that came out around 2002. I watched Spirits Within once on TV and I had no idea what it was, which is why I'm so surprised it's a final fantasy game. I mean, the graphics were awesome and I liked the movie but you're right it doesn't have the "feel" of FF... where's the chocobos?!! FF7: AC was much better (though I wish it was longer) and I was a little confused but it had a DVD extra that summarized what happened in the game. :)

I like Final Fantasy 7 (just wanted to share that).

XD so your saying they should replace the entire cast ??

Rather the whole game XD

The story could use some improvement, they could replace Sephiroth with a cool baddy, they could replace all other characters with cooler alternatives, in fact XD

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Did you just say Sephiroth wasn't cool? And you'd wanna replace him? Replace the whole cast if you want, but don't touch my Sephiroth!

JK, I respect your opinions, Angelic...but I wouldn't want the whole cast replaced...


Anyone have FFIII for DS?

I wish I did. Sadly, this DS doesn't have a DS. .-. I heard it was cool too.

I wish I did. Sadly, this DS doesn't have a DS. .-. I heard it was cool too.

haha that was good

I like Final Fantasy IX (just wanted to share that). It was the first game in the serie I played.

*pokes Kuja avatar*

I think my first was FFVIII...what was everyone else's, if they can remember?

*pokes Kuja avatar*

I think my first was FFVIII...what was everyone else's, if they can remember?

same here, my first was FF8 as well
i forget why i bought it but i was in like 3rd or 4th grade and it was totally awesome!

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Did you just say Sephiroth wasn't cool? And you'd wanna replace him? Replace the whole cast if you want, but don't touch my Sephiroth!

JK, I respect your opinions, Angelic...but I wouldn't want the whole cast replaced...


Anyone have FFIII for DS?

Of course not, except for the way they look, the FF7 characters are fine. They just have horrible designs x_x

FFlX was my first and formost favorite... XD just brought FFXl and have lll on the comp

I don't have a favorite ><. If Kingdom Hearts counts, then I'll go with that since I'm a little obsessed with it. Ah but I can't wait to see what they do with FFXIII... I want a ps3 ;o;.. it's so beautiful it makes me want to cry (sorry for digressing).

Question: If Square enix was to really remake ff7 with better graphics and better game play would you buy it again if you already have the game? Those who don't have it would you buy it anyways?

Question: If Square enix was to really remake ff7 with better graphics and better game play would you buy it again if you already have the game? Those who don't have it would you buy it anyways?

if it were for the ps2 then i'd totally buy it especially since i didn't have it before and every time i ask a game store for 7 or 8 they laugh at me

if it were for the ps2 then i'd totally buy it especially since i didn't have it before and every time i ask a game store for 7 or 8 they laugh at me

hahaah Yeah really when I went to gamestop looking for 7 they didn't have it. I think it'll be a really great idea for Square Enix to remake ff7 . So Far I've met a lot of ff7 fans and a lot of FF fans. Most of them say the same thing. so Why don't we fans demand for it!! lol hahahha It could happen.

Because everyone says that its the best story ever in a FF game, i would buy the remake. My FF fan friend who own a copy of FF7 says he would do it too

I woundn't. My copy of FF7 still works and if all you want is the storyline then all Square needs to do is redistribute (sell) the original version. You just want it because it has the FF lable that made you buy all the other games.

Personally I think the really good FF games are:

FF5 (yay job system \o/)
FF6 (best story, best characters)
FF7 (good story, interesting new atmosphere)
FF9 (oldskool for the win!)

That's just my opinion though.

What about Final Fantasy XXXXXXXXXVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII?

hahahah FF series is the same storyline over and over agian but why is that we enjoy playing it and not get tired of the game? Same with super mario. Mainly in my opinion I think it's because of the characters, battle systems, design, storyline, and everything else. Why are they creating three versions of ff13? If they do that isn't it possible to remake seven? You know remaking it better, is pretty enjoyable. :] just like they remade ff3.

hahahah FF series is the same storyline over and over agian but why is that we enjoy playing it and not get tired of the game? Same with super mario. Mainly in my opinion I think it's because of the characters, battle systems, design, storyline, and everything else.

Hm... didn't you just contradict yourself? :) The FF series has the same principles (like, the characters and battle system) but the storylines/morals are pretty different for each one, imo. One just can't say that, for example, FF7's and FF8's storylines are similar. Alright, so there's a badass hero with social issues and a main villain in both of them, but they're two really different games, I think. People say that the FF series is real old and gets 'recycled' over and over but really, it's just a bunch of different games with original storylines and recurring characters (like Biggs and Wedge ^^).

...ho my gosh, I can't believe I spouted all that.
I bet ye eyes will skip over that entire paragraph, anyway. ^_^
And, YEAH, I'd love it if they did a remake of FF7, even though you can't help but love Cloud and his triangular hair and huge rectangle feet. :lol: Square got my hopes up so high when that PS3 tech demo thing got out.. :cry:

hahahah FF series is the same storyline over and over agian but why is that we enjoy playing it and not get tired of the game? Same with super mario. Mainly in my opinion I think it's because of the characters, battle systems, design, storyline, and everything else. Why are they creating three versions of ff13? If they do that isn't it possible to remake seven? You know remaking it better, is pretty enjoyable. :] just like they remade ff3.

Your just over generalizing everything.

Final Fantasy has the same basic plot of hero saves the world from evil. Thats the basic epic plot for most sci-fi and fantasy stories now. Its the elaborations that sets all the FFs apart, such as Tidus's story of his Zandarkand, or Clouds cloudy past and wtf is up with the moon in IV.

And the thing behind the XIII series is that they all have a connecting theme, universe or character. Completely diffrent games, such as how Agito has been hinted to be more on the lines of a traditional RPG, while Versus is being made by the KH staff.

troll

wow my 1st time post here..
i like all series of final fantasy but the most i like is ff 10 because the graphic is awesome, good gameplay n nice character in that game but i'm very dissapointed on ff12 because the gameplay is not good and the story is not better than ff10 but the graphic is good..:) :\ :) :think:

i agree totally and whole heartedly with angelic

The problem is, I think, that especially in the West FF gained a lot of fans with FF7 and FF8, and then came FF9, which was totally different to what those fans were used to, so it can't be a real FF game, while in fact, FF9 is more true to the true meaning of FF than FF7, 8, 10 and everything after that are.

I think it's a shame, FF7 is heavily overrated by its fans while FF9 is heavily underrated :(

As a person who was hooked to the series by FF7 I totally agree with what you say. The only thing I like about FF7 now is the memories it has created.

Just for reference, I'm not saying FF7 and 8 are bad, they just aren't real FF's in my opinion. Still good games (though the fans tend to be annoying and narrow minded on what makes a good FF game, which is exactly the reason why I always go against them XD). FF7 was a very nice game, I really enjoyed playing it (until I got stuck XD) but the fans who shout FF7 IS TEH BEST THING EVAR! are so annoying, most of them never played another FF in the first place.

FF8 was pretty good too I supposed, although I didn't like the story much and there was too much tutorials to read before being able to properly play the game. I also didn't like the magic draining, I prefer a system with HP/MP points.

It's the lack of job class that makes it less of a final fantasy. In all the early games you had a pesific class such as warrior and blackmage.
With FF7 is was just letting everyone do what whatever they wanted. with FF8 you could decide just by putting the best spells in the main areas.

Yeah, lots of the FF7 fans can get really childish when someone says that FF7 isn't so great- for my part it's the first and favourite FF I played, but then again I haven't played any of the oldschool ones so I can't really say that it's the best of the series.


With FF7 is was just letting everyone do what whatever they wanted.

That's kinda what I like about it ^.^ and I hear people saying it's got the easiest bosses and stuff like that. But still, imo it's a brilliant game. *swoons some more*

only because the first final fantasy i played was 8 is because i love it so much, but then my discs got messed up and now i can't play
buuuuuuut pretty much every ff i've played i've been crazy about it

I just started playing FFX, and its totally refreshing, even though I'm basically done because I can get to the last area. The grinding in the game is really diffrent because you aren't trying to a lvl, instead just trying to get the skills and abilities you want.

Truly a great game.

atm im halfway through ff12
its got some good aspects and some bad ones but overall its not as bad as it was made out to be

8/10 for it so far

atm im halfway through ff12
its got some good aspects and some bad ones but overall its not as bad as it was made out to be

8/10 for it so far

i beat 12 a while ago,
the only problem i had with it was its casting of black magic
whenever i wanted to cast flare, scourge, or shock, all of my characters couldn't attack or make any other actions at all, which sucked int the end because the undying could and he killed my characters off.
but the first time i actually decided to use magic on him, i killed him. yay!:lol:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/09/final-fantasy-iv-getting-the-3d-treatment/

That one picture from that link looks pretty. I'm excited, but not going to get it. Already have the gba version.

Just started to replay FFIII (OR FFVI, depending on what numbering system you follow). 'Tis good. I missed the story quite a bit.

Three as in the Japanese Three Japanese Four? lol

Four is great. Simple though, which won't satisfy many modern rpg'ers. Can't wait to see how the remake will turn out.

I'm about 55 hours into FF12, and I think I'm about to complete it. I have very mixed thoughts about it so far... mostly disappointing ones though. The battle system is awesome, the graphics are stunning... but the games lacks soul. Other than that, there is virtually no character development, and most of them don't have anything to contribute on their own to the story. I hate to say it, but FF12 has the worst lineup of character yet in an FF game.

I mean, Penelo... wtf? Worst character ever.

Three as in the Japanese Three Japanese Four? lol

Four is great. Simple though, which won't satisfy many modern rpg'ers. Can't wait to see how the remake will turn out.

Probably 3 as in US 3/ Japanese 6. Best FF game ever.

I'm about 55 hours into FF12, and I think I'm about to complete it. I have very mixed thoughts about it so far... mostly disappointing ones though. The battle system is awesome, the graphics are stunning... but the games lacks soul. Other than that, there is virtually no character development, and most of them don't have anything to contribute on their own to the story. I hate to say it, but FF12 has the worst lineup of character yet in an FF game.

I mean, Penelo... wtf? Worst character ever.

Is she like Aerith?

Best FF game ever.

*Agrees*

I'm yet to play FFVI

I think thats the game to remake. Three was good because it was never released out of Japan, Four also because it was so revolutionary and just great, and six because I hear so much about it.

<3

Just because a game doesn't get released outside Japan doesn't make it good. That's really stupid logic. In fact, most of the logic you use in that post stinks, lol. And four didn't seem that revolutionary to me, either...

If a game was good, it would be released in other places. :lol2:

Not true. every ff game was realeased in japan, including some that aren't in other places

Not true. every ff game was realeased in japan, including some that aren't in other places

NO KIDDING.

Just because a game doesn't get released outside Japan doesn't make it good. That's really stupid logic. In fact, most of the logic you use in that post stinks, lol. And four didn't seem that revolutionary to me, either...

Where did I say that if it has never been out of Japan its good?

And four is revolutionary. Go anywhere and anyone who takes gaming as a religion and career will say so.

EDIT: Revolutionary is the wrong word. Sorry. On the lines of standard setting.

Final Fantasy XIII and XIII versus look amazing. <3
Versus:
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=3498

XIII:
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2649

Of course, versus is all cg. But it's still an awesome trailer with amazing (I think) music and artwork. :3

RD, I takes gaming as a career and religion, and I say FF IV wasn't anything special. Bwahahahahah.

Not true. every ff game was realeased in japan, including some that aren't in other places

I think you read the post wrong...

yeah, i probably did. my bad
but xiii and versus are for ps3 right?

Number four was pretty amazing really. I enjoyed it.

REMAKE TIME http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/30/final-fantasy-iv-trailer-hints-at-07-release/

I'm really enjoying the ds remake scores. Finaly Fantasy III DS has a great OST.

I've only played VIII, X, and X-2. I'm planning on picking up the XII collector's edition, though. It's at an undisclosed location for $24. Sure, it's a used game, but the condition is excellent. =D Also, as soon as my bank account comes back from vacation, I'm picking up III for DS. Yay!

I was totally going to buy VII, but I don't have a PS memory card. Nooo~ The only reason I was able to complete XIII was because I borrowed a card from a friend. Unfortunately, said friend is a billion states away, and I don't have anyone else to borrow a card from. Woohoo! =D

Also, XIII should not be PS3-exclusive. =[

Also, XIII should not be PS3-exclusive. =[

It needs some more exclusives thank god.

i still think VII and X were mmy favorites. i cant wait for XIII to come out. thatll be so awesome!!

Let me just say that FF is the best series of games ever to hit this for-saken earth. Great role-play, graphics, storylines! Yay for ffVII,ffVIII,ffX,ffX-2,ffXII......................

FF games vs. Tales games
say who you think will win

I say tales games because of the cool battle system and multiplayer

^Win at what? Sales? Final Fantasy humiliates the Tales games in that category I'm sure. I'd also say the FF franchise is much better than the Tales franchise as a franchise in general. That's just my taste though.

Dude i hope i didnt hurt FF that bad... i didnt mean to
i meant by character vs character from any of the games above

Huh? You didn't hurt FF at all. Sorry if my post sounded like I was defending Final Fantasy; it wasn't. I've just never really gotten into any of the Tales games. :heh:

And character vs. character...FF would still probably win. I mean...Sephiroth blows up the sun like 50 times during the last battle with him, hahah! X3

lol....looks like im gonna have to put like 8 people vs sephiroth
I hear Seymour from FFX is going to be a new optional boss in future kingdom hearts installments

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephiroth_%28Final_Fantasy%29
Other Installments

My personal opinion to the first discussion raised here... 25 pages ago... =_=;;

Is Final Fantasy overrated? Perhaps. Personally, I have only played VII and XII. I played VII when it first came out in 1997 because I was well under ten years old and the game caught my eye, so my parents rented it for me. I just recently (in that I mean a year ago) purchased XII for my Brother who wanted to play it after hearing about it from his friends.
XII has yet to be completed on my part being as how I can't stand to sit and do nothing for any amount of time- and that I am extremely busy. So far, I believe it is very nicely done. The graphics and gameplay are excellent. However, the storyplot begins to wear down nearly half of the way into it. Over done? Quite possibly, but the fact that it has to do to with politics brings a nice touch.
VII, however, has always been my favorite of any game. I haven't played many games, mind you (XD), but I find the deep story plot and excellent characters make up for it's graphics. Honestly, I don't play games for the play- it's for the plot. Hard to come by good plots it seems...


And yes, that is Cloud in my avatar.

I hear Seymour from FFX is going to be a new optional boss in future kingdom hearts installments

Awesomeness!!!!!

There was a thread about an FFX movie, but they closed it. Yeah, it would be a pretty good idea. But what if they made a live action movie? I have a cast for it, sort of...

Leonardo DiCaprio as Tidus (they're both wusses...plus, my other choice would be Meg Ryan)
Natalie Portman as Yuna
Pierce Brosnan as Auron
One of the Olsen Twins as Rikku

Any other ideas?

lol I yearn for another Final Fantasy movie, the CGI makes me drool uncontrollably and utterly amazes me every time
:3 I'm not exactly an expert on final fantasy cuz now I have... *thinks for a sec* hehe I only have X, X-2, and XII (I swear I thought I had more than that lol) I have to say, from the 3 games I've played so far (hehe) I'd say X is the best one in terms of storyline, plot(I guess they're the same thing), and bad-ass summons (Go Anima!)
I've heard alot of positive comments about FFVII but I can't find it anywhere (of course *sighs*) and I dunno if it can be played on a PS2, can it?

As for Final Fantasy 12, i don't have many complaints. The CGI is amazing (which is usually what makes me buy a game *is completely ignoring the "don't judge a book by its cover" thingy*) spot-on voice overs (which surprised me), pretty cool battle system (hehe in the beginning I kept clicking the X button involuntarily because of playing Kingdom Hearts for so long *clicks triangle like a maniac* dammit, lemme do a special move!), Nice plot (I like the whole politics thing)
aaaaaaaaand cool music. :D
It seems to be missing something though and I dunno what *thinks*
BTW Fran ish my fave character :3

Weiss vs. Cloud, who will win?

Awesomeness!!!!!

There was a thread about an FFX movie, but they closed it. Yeah, it would be a pretty good idea. But what if they made a live action movie? I have a cast for it, sort of...

Leonardo DiCaprio as Tidus (they're both wusses...plus, my other choice would be Meg Ryan)
Natalie Portman as Yuna
Pierce Brosnan as Auron
One of the Olsen Twins as Rikku

Any other ideas?

Tidus would be played by Gackt since they're both girly boys.

I must say the Final Fantasy series are pretty damn good. Sure the whole series got the same story; Save the world from being destroyed by the almighty guy, but that's the best part about FF. But it also has it's downsides. FFXII was a disappointment, the only character I found interesting was Balthier. And I don't like the idea of making the game ADB, ATB is what made Final Fantasy to FF.

Tidus would be played by Gackt since they're both girly boys.

>.< Gackt as Tidus!!! wooot go Gackt your my hero!

quick question about final fantasy 13.....does any1 know the charcters name from the trailer that blocks all the bullets.....im making a wallpaper but i dont know his name lol

Tidus would be played by Gackt since they're both girly boys.

I <3 Gackt

Kuja from FFIX would play Seymour...

Kuja from FFIX would play Seymour...


Good Choice... But Kuja isn't real...

Sure he is ive seen lots of guys in g-strings with feathers for hair.... she was talking about the voice actor zekush. Kuja was rather good in 9 though wasn't he, loved it when he lost it and destroyed Terra.

Michael Jackson could play Sephiroth. :P

To someone who has played Final Fantasy XII:

When does Reddas leave the party? I need to know for hunts, espers, etc.

That actually DOES seem likely x_x

That's actually scary......o_O

@Tentenfan

Not a spoiler, I suppose: After the Pharos (which is after Ridorana Cataract)

To someone who has played Final Fantasy XII:

When does Reddas leave the party? I need to know for hunts, espers, etc.

you lose Reddas after you get to the top of the pharos lighthouse and beat the 3 bosses(i won't say any more about how!):P

People, please just use spoilers. If you don't know how, you shouldn't be posting here: and M shouldn't have bothered wasting half of his lifetyping a huuuuge page on how to code your text for talking about games and anime.

Phyxed!

oh,, my bad
i haven't been on in a while

FFVII:CC

I'm hearing its amazing.

I have nothing against milking FF personally, if done right, which is sometimes is [in VII's case, it is]. Its making an epic more expansive, answering things and making the story just plain better.

I love FF my fave is X and I loved X-2 i'm waiting for the next to come out, not to mention the music is awesome.

crisis core is AMAZING! it has the best fmvs


FFVII:CC

I'm hearing its amazing.

I have nothing against milking FF personally, if done right, which is sometimes is [in VII's case, it is]. Its making an epic more expansive, answering things and making the story just plain better.

it is. ive seen it. it has awesome fmv's

I love FF my fave is X and I loved X-2 i'm waiting for the next to come out, not to mention the music is awesome.

I own X and X-2 they are reay fun. I want all the music to it but I can't find them.

FF is awesome and i need to find dem

What's dem? You mean the demi spell? I'm not sure if it's in all FF's so you'd be looking for quite a while :think:

I love final fantasy, I can't really remember when i started playing the series but anyways, my favorite is final fantasy VII.

@ Angelic

I think Azndjab meant dem as in "Them"

Angelic was being sarcastic. txt spk and slang are a no no.
FF 7 Is my fravorite because it was the first one i played and the graphics were really cool for the time.

FFVIII is my favourite... but it seems to be the underdog of FFs. IX sucked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txygz0XLY2s

Good little treat for all of you FFX fans.

FFVIII is my favourite... but it seems to be the underdog of FFs. IX sucked.
Yeah, I loved FFVIII. I don't know why everyone dislikes it so much.

i agree.
not only because it was my first finaly fantasy but 8 was extremely awesome in my opinion

I love the graphics on FF, so amazing, but I barley noticed that Yunas' eyes in X and X-2 there Blue and Green. I noticed it on X-2 where they blue and green in X also?

ummmm i never noticed either... :heh:

It was to represent her being half Al Bhed.

I@ Angelic

I think Azndjab meant dem as in "Them"

I can just your going to have a rough few months here -_-


FFVIII is not praised as much as the others for the major learning curve. I couldn't even understand the weapons and armour system.

um...darkness isn't the opposite of light...darkness does not exist it is just the lack of light lol
I think all the Final Fantasy games are fantastic though i think all of the ones before 10 should be re-made with better graphics and be released for the new consoles...but for there time period FFVII and FFVIII were the best games ever

One of the very best things about the Final Fantasy Series has always been the intricate plots and storylines...I don't know if anyone else agrees but i would like to know...:think:
Was anyone disappointed by how short and lacking in depth the Final Fantasy XII storyline was? @_@
Compared to Final Fantasy X...in some ways XII was a big let down, though in other ways it is still a very good game.
Anyway what does everyone think about the Final Fantasy XII storyline?

FF XII was basically a fan production. Used old ideas and rolled it all up into a game for a quick pay cheque.

EDIT: Oooh the Mods moved your post for you, cool.

I adored Final Fantasy XII! It was ever so addictive! I admit that the story sucked, and Vaan was pointless, but the gameplay was awesome! I think people also don't see that XII's story focussed more on Ivalice rather than individual characters. They were just there to help tell the story, and were necessary for battles (etc).

My favourites have to be VIII - I love the story in this. Squall and Rinoa are adorable, although I prefer Laguna's love stor(y/ies). - X - another great story, with wonderful music and breath-taking Full Motion Videos - and XII.



Was anyone disappointed by how short and lacking in depth the Final Fantasy XII storyline was? @_@
Well, yes, but the gameplay made up for it.
The whole time, I was waiting for Vaan and Ashe to fall for one another, even though I knew there wasn't a love theme in it. Ashe remains loyal to her husband throughout the game, although I can't remember his name...

As I said before, the story is more about Ivalice. It's about the world and its people, not the inidividuals.

FFVIII is my favourite... but it seems to be the underdog of FFs. IX sucked.

The underdogs of the FF series are actually the early games, mostly the NES/SNES version.

Nowadays the FF series is all about fancy graphics. The ones before 7 completely relied on gameplay.

I adored Final Fantasy XII! It was ever so addictive! I admit that the story sucked, and Vaan was pointless, but the gameplay was awesome! I think people also don't see that XII's story focussed more on Ivalice rather than individual characters. They were just there to help tell the story, and were necessary for battles (etc).



Well, yes, but the gameplay made up for it.
The whole time, I was waiting for Vaan and Ashe to fall for one another, even though I knew there wasn't a love theme in it. Ashe remains loyal to her husband throughout the game, although I can't remember his name...

As I said before, the story is more about Ivalice. It's about the world and its people, not the inidividuals.


Her Husbands name was Rasler.

I think the story was amazing. It was the first realistic story we've seen. Your right about the story not being about the characters, but about Ivalice. Although it could have dealt more with the characters. The sequel to Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasu XII Revenants Wings (DS) also comes out soon. It looks like it will have alot more to do with the characters.

As a whole Final Fantasy XII was wonderful in every aspect. Definantly my favorite one to date.

I wasn't so impressed with FF XII
The game seemed short and the lack of story led to myself not caring what would be round the next corner so I found myself always getting bored and wondering why I was bothering to play.
Good old FF VII had so much more sructure as FF XII was just the best bits of the older games glued together and put into the old world from FF tactics advance.

Nowadays the FF series is all about fancy graphics. The ones before 7 completely relied on gameplay.
That's not true at all. Square games have always looked amazing for their respective time periods. = \

Just because a game's graphics don't wow you now doesn't mean they weren't meant to wow people back when the game came out! ;P

I still like the artwork in the older FFs actually. Some of it is still really good looking.

I'll just do a quick run of all the Final Fantasy games I played, namely 1,2,7,8,X,X-2.

Gameplay: Pretty good
Storyline: Alrighty
Graphics: Sweet
Music: AWESOME. He's the man, Nobuo Uematsu.

well, dont blame me... I'm really into music, and I can tell not too good ones from the better ones. although yes, I'm totally stuck onto the One Winged Angel song. <3 :lol:

If you liked the first ones then you could try getting a working copy of number 6.

Don't forget 9 in that case.

By the time 9 came out I was mature enough to ensure no harm would come to my disks. My 7 is scratched to buggery, 8 is clearly well used but my 9 is practically scratch free :w00t:

i liked ff9 and ff8 the ending bamboozled me. number 10 would be my favorite, number 12 was alright.

Final Fantasy XII had everything the others didn't, yet missing all the cruicial ingredients. The main character for instance had nothing to do, whatsoever, with the plot. The Yuna-copy didn't serve any purpose at all. However, the game's mechanics, graphics, combat and world were simply breathtaking.

Combat! STFU. all you did was move them to the mosters. those retarded gambits would do the rest. Sure, you don't have to set them up well or even use them at all but still, they removed to input from the game.

i gotta say FF6 has got to be the fave.

I just got FFXII *slow* It's the first proper FF game I've played (I've got FFTactics Advance too) and I think it's pretty darn awesome. The graphics are obviously very good, and I like the battle system (active dimension battle system I think it's called? How you don't move to a separate battle field) and stuff, because combined with the gambits, it makes things flow very quickly and smoothly. It feels sorta like an MMO with the active dimension battle-ness, and it means you get to choose your battle.

I like all the characters too (Balthier and Fran are super cool yo), and I liked the plot (or lack of) because like someone said earlier, it's about the world of Ivalice, and being abe to explore it's history, it's current situations and it's places. Then again, I don't have much to compare with (and I'm generally not an overly critical person anyway) but overall it's made a great impression on me.

Combat! STFU. all you did was move them to the mosters. those retarded gambits would do the rest. Sure, you don't have to set them up well or even use them at all but still, they removed to input from the game.
The battle systems i what made this game playable for... 100+ hours.

If The tweek the battle system a little then it will be brilliant, for now it lacks involvment or feel of control.

Final Fantasy XII had everything the others didn't, yet missing all the cruicial ingredients. The main character for instance had nothing to do, whatsoever, with the plot. The Yuna-copy didn't serve any purpose at all. However, the game's mechanics, graphics, combat and world were simply breathtaking.


yeah, you make a point. the main character was important up to the skycity. after that, his life was pointless. as a matter of fact, i only use him if the REAL main characters die

The only thing I hate about FFXII is the license system. It allows for every character to be exactly the same skill and abilitywise, and takes away one of the major elements of an rpg for me.

My first FF (possibly my first outright RPG even) was FF6. I instantly fell in love.

I now own every American FF title aside from 3 because I don't feel like buying a DS just for one game.

As for faves, I'll seperate by generation.

NES - FFI - Always a classic.

SNES - FFVI - Got me started. When I think FF, this comes to mind first.

PSX - FFVII - Duh.

PS2 - FFX - Explained below.

Of the newer titles, I chose X as my favorite because X2 doesn't really register as a mainstream FF title as it deviates from tradition in being a direct sequel. FFXI was online and I could rant for days about it even being -part- of the main series. And FFXII was just a big disappointment. Still good enough, but not what I was hoping for.

An online comic I read a while back comes to mind. ...I can't remember which one though. :P

Guy 1: "Hey. Is that FFXII?"
Guy 2: "Yup. Picked it up this morning."
Guy 1: "Wow. You're kicking ass..."
Guy 2: "And I'm not even touching the controller."
Guy 1: "You mean..."
Guy 2: "Yeah. The game is masturbating."

I just got FFXII *slow* It's the first proper FF game I've played (I've got FFTactics Advance too) and I think it's pretty darn awesome. The graphics are obviously very good, and I like the battle system (active dimension battle system I think it's called? How you don't move to a separate battle field) and stuff, because combined with the gambits, it makes things flow very quickly and smoothly. It feels sorta like an MMO with the active dimension battle-ness, and it means you get to choose your battle.

I like all the characters too (Balthier and Fran are super cool yo), and I liked the plot (or lack of) because like someone said earlier, it's about the world of Ivalice, and being abe to explore it's history, it's current situations and it's places. Then again, I don't have much to compare with (and I'm generally not an overly critical person anyway) but overall it's made a great impression on me.

FF12 isn't a real FF game though :mellow: One of the key elements of FF is the turn-based battle system x_x take that out and you kill FF ><;;

So people who had FF12 for their first FF honestly can't say they've played Final Fantasy x_x

Bleh. FFXII has a built in botting system, complete with unlockables!

I got to level 99 in just a few days, at the Stilshrine of Miriam, just leaving my system on....

xD

FF12 isn't a real FF game though :mellow: One of the key elements of FF is the turn-based battle system x_x take that out and you kill FF ><;;

So people who had FF12 for their first FF honestly can't say they've played Final Fantasy x_x

Yeah, I highly agree.

I was so dissapointed when I first played it. It wasn't a bad game (actually, it really wasn't a decent RPG for a 2006 game--Low character development for example)... but it did NOT live up to the Final Fantasy serie. I only know FF by its random battle ATB/whatever xD

From the best to the worst (IMO):

1-Final Fantasy IX
2-Final Fantasy VIII
3-Final Fantasy VII
4-Final Fantasy VI
5-Final Fantasy X
6-Final Fantasy III (remake)
6-Final Fantasy X-2
7-Final Fantasy V
8-Final Fantasy XII

The SNES/NES ones were okay (it's hard to keep playing an old game xD)
Late SNES/PS1 ones were the best.
And PS2 ones were starting to fall apart.

Yeah, I played every FF but haven't finish the first ones yet.

Well buuhuuu. You know you fanboy conservatives will kill the brand one day. And yes, I know, now you'll reply with something alike "FF is already dead". Well, maybe not now that I've pointed that out.

Bashing FFXII for not being conventional to the series is as overplayed as it is boring to listen to. (Oops, preposition ending sentence!)

I don't think that FF XII was bad, persay.

I just really think it was dumb of Square Enix to utilize a system that could easily be abused to train the crap out of your characters with no effort.

Well buuhuuu. You know you fanboy conservatives will kill the brand one day. And yes, I know, now you'll reply with something alike "FF is already dead". Well, maybe not now that I've pointed that out.

Bashing FFXII for not being conventional to the series is as overplayed as it is boring to listen to. (Oops, preposition ending sentence!)

It's just not a Final Fantasy game. FF is a certain formula, like the mana games have a certain formula they all stick to. It just doesn't make sense to completely break away from what makes the series the series :/

It's like making a Die Hard film without Bruce Willis.

It's just not a Final Fantasy game. FF is a certain formula, like the mana games have a certain formula they all stick to. It just doesn't make sense to completely break away from what makes the series the series :/

It's like making a Die Hard film without Bruce Willis.

It's all been about money since at least #8

Also give it some time and see what happens with later die hard movies :\

@Angelic: I certainly don't think so. And this is coming from a long-time Final Fantasy fan, not your average mainstream-basher. What FF12 lacked in "FF"-quality which you speak of has nothing to do with the battles. The storyline was nearly identical to the latter games (Rebels vs evil evil empire) but there was no character chemistry, not one of them had nearly anything to do with the plot. There was no real feeling of a oddyssey like the other ones had. That's what the team of FF12 neglected to implement.

What made FF12 'less' than the previous titles isn't the fact that they tried to renew certain things, but rather that they ignored some cruicial factors.

@HanTony: It has been about money from the very start. Square is not a charity project that exists to produce well-being, it's a corporate entity that exists to generate profit.

Nope. The very first one was intended as a dying companies last game. It just happened to be that they tried so hard that the game was good enough to keep the company going so they stayed in business to make a sequal.

I'm aware of the history, but since Square first formed their company -- it was to generate profit. FFI was a last attempt from their side to avoid bankrupcy. You do know what bankrupcy is, right?

Anyway, the point you were trying to make earlier, that Square created Final Fantasy VIII and subsequent games for profit, while doing the former ones for whatever other reasons is wrong. That's what I can gather from your comment.

Ok ok. They certainly earned that money on some of the games.

@Angelic: I certainly don't think so. And this is coming from a long-time Final Fantasy fan, not your average mainstream-basher. What FF12 lacked in "FF"-quality which you speak of has nothing to do with the battles. The storyline was nearly identical to the latter games (Rebels vs evil evil empire) but there was no character chemistry, not one of them had nearly anything to do with the plot. There was no real feeling of a oddyssey like the other ones had. That's what the team of FF12 neglected to implement.

What made FF12 'less' than the previous titles isn't the fact that they tried to renew certain things, but rather that they ignored some cruicial factors.

@HanTony: It has been about money from the very start. Square is not a charity project that exists to produce well-being, it's a corporate entity that exists to generate profit.

Personally, I find the factor gameplay quite a crucial factor in a game series like this. Change too much of it (which IMO they did) and it's not true to the series anymore.

It's just not a Final Fantasy game. FF is a certain formula, like the mana games have a certain formula they all stick to. It just doesn't make sense to completely break away from what makes the series the series :/

What formula do the Mana games stick to, exactly? Every single Mana game is totally different from the rest, hence why most of them suck. They should just go back to Secret of Mana's amazing formula, and give all the Mana fans what they've been asking for for years. I just beat SoM again with my little brother a few days ago, lol. X3
I didn't care much for Legend of Mana, or Seiken III. I've never played the first one, but I doubt it was very good. Seiken IV had pretty bad reviews, though I haven't played it. Dawn of Mana was just a dungeon crawler. And the newest Mana is an RTS. The Mana series doesn't really have a formula at all. It doesn't even stay in the same genre!
The series' creator even said that another Secret of Mana type of game was unlikely, as the Mana series is his "experimental" series, where he gets to try something different every time. I find it pretty jackassish, how he doesn't listen to his fans at all, but whatever. This was in an interview with IGN, when he was talking to them about Heroes of Mana. They were all "this game is...an rts? Do you ever plan on making another game like Secret of Mana? A Mana game your fans will actually...you know...like?"
And he was all "no way, lol. I do what I want."

Ah, and about Final Fantasy...I think it can be Final Fantasy, even if they change the gameplay. There's more to Final Fantasy than just turned based battles you know. Final Fantasy games are expected to have amazing art, great characters, engaging stories, and entertaining gameplay. I think the Final Fantasy name is more Squaresoft's stamp of excellence than it is any one gameplay formula. When a new numbered Fantasy game comes out, everybody takes notice; it means a great RPG is almost surely in the works. The same thing goes for franchises like Mario...sure, you run around and jump a lot in all of them, but they still all play pretty differently. There's a huge difference between Super Mario 3 and Super Mario Galaxy, though they're both amazing games.

I like and agree with your last paragraph there HC :)

I'm not a game-snob, and I like what I like, so who cares? I'm not gunna be prejudiced about something because OH NOEZ it's suddenly different (break the status quo, yo (heehee, it rhymed)) and bash someone coz they like something I don't. Everyone's entitled to their opinion right? Just don't shove it in their faces. I try not to let expectation get in the way of judgement either.

Besides, they're no real use in complaining, it's not like they can un-release the game just coz some people didn't like it. I think it was rather brave to go an make such major changes to such a series such as FF, something fresh for old fans and something to entice new players (like me!). I don't wanna say anymore, even though I could write a lot more, because this is am unending debate of opinions.

Don't forget though, there's FFXIII to look forward too now as well :P

You know I don't get it. Of the Final Fantasy games I have played, they all of have been amazing. Including FFXII and FFX-2. You people just aren't looking at the big picture. These games were created so we could have fun, not just to make money or just to say, "Oh we made a game" it was so the public could be completely amazed by the best games of all time. Although I have to say some of the games didn't have as much...fun to them...they are all super great games. FFX-2 was made to help complete the famous story of Tidus and Yuna, and I have heard some nasty things about FFX-2. Mainly because people think it isn't a Final Fantasy either because of the j-pop and revealing clothing, but it has the legendary name Final Fantasy doesn't it??? So don't go and say that it isn't Final Fantasy when it is. And it also isn't just the graphics or story that you want in a Final Fantasy game...it is the amazing music. And for some reason nobody has really said anything about FF music. It is the best music ever!!! Nobuo Uematsu is the absolute best composer ever to be alive.

And also everyone should be looking forward to Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, and maybe Final Fantasy Agito XIII...and don't you all wish Square would make a remake of Final Fantasy VII for the PS3???

Nobuo Uematsu is the absolute best composer ever to be alive.

and don't you all wish Square would make a remake of Final Fantasy VII for the PS3???

Agreed, and hell yes.

yah I know it really really needs to happen. A FF7 with the same graphics as FF7 Advent Children would be absolutely amazing

You know I don't get it. Of the Final Fantasy games I have played, they all of have been amazing. Including FFXII and FFX-2. You people just aren't looking at the big picture. These games were created so we could have fun, not just to make money or just to say, "Oh we made a game" it was so the public could be completely amazed by the best games of all time. Although I have to say some of the games didn't have as much...fun to them...they are all super great games. FFX-2 was made to help complete the famous story of Tidus and Yuna, and I have heard some nasty things about FFX-2. Mainly because people think it isn't a Final Fantasy either because of the j-pop and revealing clothing, but it has the legendary name Final Fantasy doesn't it??? So don't go and say that it isn't Final Fantasy when it is. And it also isn't just the graphics or story that you want in a Final Fantasy game...it is the amazing music. And for some reason nobody has really said anything about FF music. It is the best music ever!!! Nobuo Uematsu is the absolute best composer ever to be alive.

And also everyone should be looking forward to Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, and maybe Final Fantasy Agito XIII...and don't you all wish Square would make a remake of Final Fantasy VII for the PS3???

Sorry to break your bubble of idealism with my needle of cynicism, but FFX-2 wasn't made to "complete the famous story of Tidus and Yuna". FFX did that, and perfectly so. The subsequent game was made to generate profit from the obviously profitable prequel (FFX). They did the same for FFVII; additional games, movies, anime... they've pretty much overmilked that cow now.

Why won't they do that with games such as FFVI? The story is great, music is awesome... but it didn't have the COMMERCIAL SUCCESS that FFVII and FFX had.

Therefore, no money for SquareEnix. So yes, the FF brand = money. To think otherwise is naive and makes you look ridiculous.

Well then I guess I'm making myself look ridiculous. Yes I do agree with your input on FFX-2 but money is not the only reason Square Enix makes games, it is so their fans can have fun playing awesome games. And until I hear it from an actual Square employee, that is what I'm sticking to because it is true.

If you ever hear an employee of any company anywhere at all tell you they're in it for the money, that person should be (and likely would be) fired.

YES!!! Finally someone gets what I'm saying.

Methinks you misunderstood. :P

What I meant was if an employee -admitted- to any customer that the company was only treating their customers like gold because of the money it would bring in (which in most, if not all, cases is very true), that employee would be fired to make him look like an idiot and make the customer think he was just spouting nonsense.

Maybe this is just me but in every job I've ever had, if ever I asked why I was supposed to do something, the reply would be something along the lines of "To bring in more customers.". Somehow I doubt they wanted all those customers to come in just so they'd have more people to be nice to.

Anyway. You and Noir are both right. They make games like this to make people happy. They want to make them happy because they'll make more money off them that way. It isn't just one or the other because neither would work without the other.

Ok I get what you're saying, but yes as you said, it isn't just about the money. I do agree they want to make money, but they also want their customers/fans to be happy. That is why pretty much every aspect of the games are perfection, except for maybe a few.

Either way, I'm not going to play any more new FF titles.
The Final Fantasy Serie from 1 to 9 were excellent. Starting from FF10, the serie started to go downhill. =/

After finishing FF12 (after a year break), I was pretty much ''That's it?''.
I'll stop here before I make a thousand words essay on this <_<

Buhuu ~ :(

Even though Final Fantasy is made mostly for the money (Square is just like any other business, after all), I truly believe that the Square team (or at least the majority of them) really do believe in their works, and really enjoy creating them. I don't think their games would be so loved if the situation was anything but. (<---What a broken sentence!)

Anyway, what I'm saying is that studios like Square, Konami, and Nintendo may be businesses out to keep afloat, but I think that their members take a great deal of pride in their work. Their games consistently go farther than they'd need to in order to simply sell well. Compare this to companies like EA, who have no problem pushing out Madden after Madden, without changing a thing, and without worrying about how good their games are.

You'll notice that SquareEnix, Nintendo, Konami, Capcom, and all of the other leading game studios never push out shitty licensed games, like so many other companies do, even though there's a lot of money to be made by doing licensed games. I think there's a reason for that; these famous companies really do take pride in their work, and really do appreciate the support of their fans. I don't think they'd create such amazing games otherwise.

YES YES YES, completely true Hopeless. And to Tempest, just becuz there might have been some bad ones, doesn't mean FF13 will be horrible. So even if you think the series is dead, play FF13 when you get a chance and hopefully your mind will change. I can't wait for FF13 to come out, it will be amazing.

As a slight aside, there's quite a lineup of well known FF developers being used in the up and coming Lost Odyssey (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30041.html)

As another slight aside, I think the battle theme for LO is incredible, and one of Nobuo's best songs ever. I also think that the boss theme is severely lacking, sadly.

i think they should totally remake final fantasy 8.... just sayin

With modern ways the games could easily be put on the handheld consoles.

But not everyone has handheld consoles, if they remake a game it should be put on all existing platforms(the new ones)not just one

They will want it on the latest handhelds for the money as much as not caring about having to remake the games just for some outdated ps2 system.

Are there any new handheld consoles coming out?

@Han=I don't mean the ps2, I mean ps3, it would hav super good graphics and it would be really neat.

Yeah, I'd play a remade FF8. I'd also replay a remade Chrono Trigger. Too bad the Square guys shut that fan project down...

But why remake the games when they can get just as much money by using the exact games in the latest handhelds. Not that the games are going to be remade anyway. Just new after new for years and years.

@Han: The thing is not everyone likes handhelds, and it would be better to release everything on Xbox 360 and PS3 because everyone would want the graphics to be really good. On the GBA for example, the graphics are okay but they aren't the best, same with DS

But then those graphics of final fantasy 7 could easily be managed onto the DS and so few people actually have the ps3 the remaking fees would not be suited.
And it wont happen either way so just sit tight and wait for FF13 and 14 :\

But, ok, but now here is another question, how do you know that there will be a FF14??? They haven't even released 13 yet

But, ok, but now here is another question, how do you know that there will be a FF14??? They haven't even released 13 yet
Because Final Fantasy is widely popular and it's obvious that SquareEnix will continue with the series until they die? How do you know there will even be a 13? What if SquareEnix gets hit by a comet or destroyed by crazy Japanese fans before the game releases?
Also, I think SE will remake FF7 for the ps3 before the console dies. My intuition screams that this is going to happen...

Fans desire ff7 remake but since when did SE listen to what others say :P

Since when does any company do what the fans say?

Blizzard is a fine example. WoW is getting them 150 million+ a month and there are still servers going down all over the place. Like mine. Every night. While we're raiding. -.-

They're more interested in adding new servers than fixing old ones. Same for SE. They're more interested in pumping out new stuff than redoing old stuff. It would be all kinds of awesome if they did remake FFVII though. As long as that certain someone with the long braid is re-attainable in the new version. It's always ticked me off how they left that out of the American version. I liked her. :(

I know, the thing was I knew it was going to happen but I still Cried, a little when it happened.

I didn't cause my friend spoiled it for me when he was talking about it when I got it. -.- (I punched him in the arm for that .-.) I didn't realize it was so soon though. The end of the first disk..... the end of the first disk???? o__O I thought it was like at the end of the game or something. I hope they do make a re-make though but how would they make it interesting? I mean, they could touch it up w/ new gen graphics but it would still be the same old game. What could they do to improve it and make even old die hard fan stare in awe?

I hope they do make a re-make though but how would they make it interesting? I mean, they could touch it up w/ new gen graphics but it would still be the same old game. What could they do to improve it and make even old die hard fan stare in awe?

They could revamp the battle system, add new content and maybe a few more playable characters. They did it with the Wild Arms remake and I loved it. If the story is good enough, I honestly don't mind playing through it more than once. Hell, I've already beaten the original FFVII at least ten times.

If they add new playable characters, it would be awesome if they would add the Turks. Like you'll get them after you beat them underground some time before you fight the crazy doctor on disc 2. (forgot his name) It would be cool if they added several endings, using that relationship point system they did for who you would go on a date with during disc 1. It would be interesting what would happen if Sephiroth defeated Cloud at the end of the game or at least show what happened to the characters when Holy was used to stop Meteor. I would play it too again if they made a good re-make. :neko:

They could revamp the battle system, add new content and maybe a few more playable characters. They did it with the Wild Arms remake and I loved it. If the story is good enough, I honestly don't mind playing through it more than once. Hell, I've already beaten the original FFVII at least ten times.
Then it would just be a new final fantasy in an old world. This sort of thing has been done to games before. FF10-2 anyone?

If they add new playable characters, it would be awesome if they would add the Turks. Like you'll get them after you beat them underground some time before you fight the crazy doctor on disc 2. (forgot his name) It would be cool if they added several endings, using that relationship point system they did for who you would go on a date with during disc 1. It would be interesting what would happen if Sephiroth defeated Cloud at the end of the game or at least show what happened to the characters when Holy was used to stop Meteor. I would play it too again if they made a good re-make. :neko:

Turks would be cool, even better if you didn't HAVE to have cloud leading the party. They will have to change the leveling system so that only the chars you use level up.
The scientist is called Hojo.
You can control who cloud goes on a date with through various events such as the order you speak to people, not buying the flower, giving it to marlene etc
I promised myself I'd never play the original FF7 again, this was about 2 years ago, i must stick to my word.

But the whole leveling characters that weren't in battle superbly helped me, and probably many others, so I don't think they should take that out and I think they should have done that with every FF game

It doesn't make sense though, exp should be based on whoever has actually DONE something and/or for the entire party that is present during the battle. like you can't get experience in carpenting by standing there and letting someone else do the work(real life example).

Well having it so that everyone gains experience helps so that when you don't want someone in your group, but they are an asset, you don't have to have them in your group to level them up. But you also need to know that it isn't as much of a level up.

Shared xp is needed in games like that. There are certain points in the game where you're forced to use certain characters and if they haven't been used at all before, you're screwed. And FFX2 is so far from what I had in mind, it's not even funny. FFX2 was a sequel. Not a remake. Not to mention FFX and FFX2 look exactly the same. The differences between the old FFVII and a new one would be enough for me and alot of other people to want to buy it.

Yes, Nate is completely right. FFX-2 was not a remake of FFX, not even close, it was a sequel. And with the FFVII remake, there would be better graphics, most likely voice-overs and it would just be over all a much better experience of the amazing story of FFVII.

It doesn't make sense though, exp should be based on whoever has actually DONE something and/or for the entire party that is present during the battle. like you can't get experience in carpenting by standing there and letting someone else do the work(real life example).

It actually makes perfect sence.
How do the rest of the gang get to the locations? They can't take a taxi.
it's just that it made getting the limit breaks really hard to do. The best time to get the limits was near the start, you can have cross slash by the time you reach the reactor and fight the first boss :D

Yeah. Nate is right. In FF7 there was a time you had to use at least one other character that wasn't Cloud (when Cloud got sick from absorbing too much mana after Sephiroth used him as a puppet again and he fell into that life stream I think, making him disable in a way) for a while so it helped to not have that character like lv 10 when everyone was like 30 or 40. It's annoying to level up EVERY character since doing so slows down the game and not doing so would make certain characters useless after a point.

@han: Yeah. It was easier to get your limit breaks during the start of the game since you take a lot more damage then but later on you start to get too strong and it'll take like forever to get them. Having Cloud's last limit break made the game too easy though. (was able to kill like everything super easy) It would be nice if they fixed Vincent's limit breaks though. Not having him out of control or at least doing something in the game to let him have control over him. They should change really everyone's limit breaks damage and stuff since some characters can hit high like Cloud and Cid from be able to use multiple attacks while characters like Yuffie get stuck to like 9999 damage (if it even gets up to that). Not really balanced and really made my team kinda weak in that department.

Team: Cloud, Vincent and Yuffie.

Team: Cloud, Vincent and Yuffie.

Oooo... There's a good idea for a conversation. I'd say it'd be a good thread but I know how much we hate having 43987398765 FF threads going.

My FF teams are as follows:

1: Fighter, BM, RM, Thief (Just like the 8-bit comic!)
2: No choice
3: Never played (Not buying a DS for one game.)
4: No choice
5: Every job mastered for every character(I'm anal like that.)
6: Locke, Sabin, Setzer, Celes
7: Cloud (duh), Vincent, RedXIII
8: Squall (re-duh), Rinoa, Zell
9: Zidane (re-re-duh), Quina, Vivi, Eiko
10: Tidus, Yuna, Riku
11: THF/NIN :P
12: Vaan, Ashe, Basch
13: Pending...

Heh, this is mine here. (only to the ones I played)

4: Rydia (Eterna(l)), Cecil (DS), Rosa (X), Kain (Han) and Edge (Luis)
7: Cloud, Vincent and Yuffie
9: Zidane, Eiko, Steiner and Vivi
10: Tidus, Yuna and Rikku. (lol cool. same team)
12: Vaan, Basch and Penelo

Mines pretty much the same but when I can use every character. I WILL. The way I'd do it is ALWAYS take the weakest characters along (Or in ff10 just use evey char in every battle)
Thats one thing i disliked about 7. Can't go "hey look yuffie's falling behind."

My favorite games are Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy XII...
And Rikku, Ashe, and Balthier are my favorite characters. ^^

My teams have to be(of the ones I have played):

7: Cloud, Vincent, and Yuffie/Red XIII
8: Squall, Rinoa/Selphie, and Zell
10: Lulu, Auron, and Yuna
12: Balthier, Fran, and Ashe/Basch

8. Squall, Rinoa, and zell
10. Tidus, Yuna, Auron/Rikku
12. Blathier, Ashe, Basch

Well, I finally beat Final Fantasy 4. XD

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/megaflonne/goteam.png

Well, I finally beat Final Fantasy 4. XD

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/megaflonne/goteam.png

Huh. I would've thought Han would fit Rosa's graphic better than Kain's.

Well, I did the characters' name according to how I feel or think about them.

Rydia (sp?)- Not sure, guess cause she's the youngest girl I know here. (when Rydia was a child)

Cecil- Well, since I'm the one playing, why not be the lead? XD Besides, it goes w/ my name Divine Shadow. (since he was dark and is now light)

Rosa- Cause X's a good friend of mine. (I used to have a crush on her)

Kain- He's also a good buddy of mine (as in the game) so I thought he would fit.

Edge- Idk, guess cause he had that ninja set a while back. :ninja:

I really liked Dirge of Cerberus (even though i beat it in three days)