Basically, the title speaks for itself. I'm kind of knowledgeable in cars so ask away! But before I do that, I'll educate you guys on how a hybrid car works, many people are confused about the necessity of it, most think it's all electric, which is wrong since it runs on two engines, a gas and electric where the electric engine works 90% of the time.

But here's how the Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive (c) system works.

Hybrids are a new generation of cars introduced in late 1990s by Toyota and Honda. Hybrids were designed with the idea of conservation and environment in mind. Many people who are new to the technology will think that all hybrids are designed similarly with each other. In fact, Toyota’s Hybrid Synergy Drive © work the quite the opposite compared to Honda’s IMA (Integrated Motor Assist) system. People who think that hybrid is just another electric car, are wrong since a hybrid have two separate engines into one. A true hybrid car is mostly powered by the electric engine with its own battery source having the gas engine as its support when additional power is needed, which is also used as a source of power for its generator that recharges the hybrid’s battery. Toyota’s Hybrid Synergy Drive © system follows that philosophy very closely.



The Hybrid Synergy Drive © system are composed of five components.

In the Prius, the gas engine is a 4 cylinder engine which churns about 76 horsepower. Spotted behind the car is the hybrid battery that never needs to recharged manually or plugged in. Behind the engine is the power control unit, which controls the hybrid system. Next to the gas engine is the electric engine that powers the vehicle most of the time. The electric engine alone has 67 horsepower. Overall with the two engines combined makes about 143 horsepower. Next is the generator which is located next to the gas engine which helps deliver power to the generator. The generator is used to deliver power to the hybrid battery which is the source or power for the electric engine whenever it’s needed. To have both of these engines work together, a planetary gear is located in between the two engines that help both of the engines work together efficiently. When the car is beginning to move, the car is powered entirely by the electric engine that emits zero emissions. This engine draws power from the hybrid battery. Not only does it not pollute the air, it also delivers impressive torque to the wheels so that it will give you a satisfying acceleration. While the car is accelerating, the electric motor works together with the gas engine that gives the driver the maximum power needed. While the car is cruising at a high constant speed, the gas engine does most of the work while the electric engine uses up only a little amount of power that only turns on when it’s needed, but once the car reaches a low cruise speed, the electric engine does most of the work, this is the synergy system working together. While the electric engine is powering the car, the gas engine recharges the hybrid battery giving the car maximum mileage and lower emissions. One of the most technological advances in the hybrid is when the driver is braking. Whenever gas pedal is lifted and the brake pedal pressed, heat are generated, but instead of having that heat being wasted, the heat is gathered and transferred to the electric motor, in which is transferred over to the hybrid battery, recharging it in the process. Also, when the car is in reverse, coasting, or at a stoplight, the gas engine is turned off and the electric engine is used and whenever the gas engine is still turned on, it’s recharging the battery as it waits. With the help of technological advances and engineering, this hybrid system will definitely push towards a cleaner environment and minimize fuel consumption. These hybrids have shown great improvement in the years and have saved over 100 million gallons of gas.



Compared to Honda’s IMA system, the Hybrid Synergy Drive © system truly follows the hybrid technology. The main reason why Honda’s IMA system is different is that the IMA system is actually the opposite of the Synergy Drive. Instead of being powered by the electric engine most of the time, the IMA system uses the gas engines as its workhorse having the electric engine used as a support for heavy payloads and extra power when needed, but it also doesn't need to be recharged or plugged in since the gas engine recharges the hybrid battery similarly to Toyota's Synergy Drive system.


Sources
www.Toyota.com
www.hybridsynergydrive.com
Motortrend Magazines.


-Philip Han- A.K.A Xpeed
-03/06/06

Ok what is currently the fastest production car on the market?

In you opinion, which car would you prefer, a PorscheGT3 or a Ferrari F50?

Concidering F50s are virtually impossible to get cause only about 250 of them were brought to the US. First the F50 is concidered obsolete and there are so few of them the chances of finding one are relatively slim. The GT3 is faster however both cars require a lot of maintinance and with todays gas prices you wouldn't get far with either of their fuel economy.

if you could find an F50 go for it, it the long run it will be more collectable but peformance wise the GT3 is the better vehicle.

This is just my veiw from research and knowedge not to mention the F50 was my dream car once like it's predicessors the F40, and the ultra rare F47 which actually had a back seat. I suggest letting Xspeed give his opion aswell.

Ok what is currently the fastest production car on the market?

That would be the Bugatti Veyron, clocked in at 250 mph, rating at 1001 hp.


In you opinion, which car would you prefer, a PorscheGT3 or a Ferrari F50?

Well, in power wise, there isn't much difference, but the GT3 is considered to be more of a race car than the F50. Yes, the F50 is engineered with F1 in mind, but the GT3 was built race-ready. I would get the GT3 mainly because they're still in production and you don't need to own a previous model where you would need to have owned a F40 in order to get a new F50, don't know about a used one though. :think: That was the general standard if you wanted to get the F60 Enzo, you needed to own a F40 and a F50 to be considered worthy on the list for a Enzo.

I had heard of that Bugatti but only once. 250 is impressive last I had heard the Saeen F7 was the fastest

Yeah, the bugatti is now the crowned king of fastest production car, blowing away the previous winner, the McLaren F1 which top speed was 232 mph.

The Veyron is powered by a W16 motor (Two V8s in one, placed side-by-side, hence, the "W") which most of the power comes from the quad turbo (4 Turbos)

If you're wondering how much it costs, well......not even selling your house will get you one, depending how big the house is. :heh: It's a bit over $1 Million.

http://www.timpelen.com/images/cars/bugatti_veyron_img01.jpg
http://www.germancarfans.com/features/1030919.001/1030919.001.1M.jpg

nice, and actually the McLaren was beat out by the Saleen that actually had a top speed of 245 which is still in production.

Post Script! Never mind Looks like my original sources were wrong, so far the Saleen has never undergone a proper speed run. so it's true top speed is unknown.

so for now you are right. the McLaren was the fastest before the Bugatti.

I may be wrong, but isn't this topic better-suited for the Everyday Chatter (http://forums.ichigos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17) board? ._.

I don't know why I'm posting here... Not much of a car person. >>;

I had heard of that Bugatti but only once. 250 is impressive last I had heard the Saeen F7 was the fastest
I was drooling over both of those at the LA auto show :D

I saw it in Topgear the other day. Wanted to post about it but had forgotten its name. Didn't impress me much to be honest. So it's fast, big deal. I think it doesn't look very good.

If I had to choose between GT3 and F50 I'd go for the GT3, I don't like Italian cars. Porsche makes nice looking cars. Actually I prefer the old ones over the new ones.

Still, my all time favourite is the Mazda RX7 FD. Gotta love that thing :wub:

http://www.ambassadorautosales.com/9371%201993%20mazda%20rx7%20dr%20side%20angle.jpg

Yes, out of all the RX series, I would personally get a 1998 RX-7 because it's a two rotor 13B engine that is twin turbo, what more can you ask? But then there's the issue of reliability, gas guzzling, and rotary replacement after 30,000+ miles. But overall, it's a high revving car that I would love to own.

If I wasn't about to get a MKIII Turbo Supra, I would probably get a RX-7 and make it into a beast like this to represent my company. :D

http://www.grandprixgroup.com/gpi/magxo/106/rx_blue/29.jpg

oh yeah, and the M6. I want one.

Yes, out of all the RX series, I would personally get a 1998 RX-7 because it's a two rotor 13B engine that is twin turbo, what more can you ask? But then there's the issue of reliability, gas guzzling, and rotary replacement after 30,000+ miles. But overall, it's a high revving car that I would love to own.

If I wasn't about to get a MKIII Turbo Supra, I would probably get a RX-7 and make it into a beast like this to represent my company. :D

http://www.grandprixgroup.com/gpi/magxo/106/rx_blue/29.jpg

That RX7 is horrible! They took of the flip-up headlights! That's a crime! :mad:

Actually I don't really like visual tuning all that much... I do like some new bumpers and a spoiler, but they shouldn't be too big. I don't like that at all. I prefer performance tuning, much more useful.

As for affordable cars, I'd like a 1989 - 1993 Toyota Celica - with flip-up headlights of course :o

The honda civic is pretty good ne?

The new one? Looks like a UFO XD pretty cool though

If I had a choice between the new civics, I would get the Si no matter what, that's the only decent looking one out of the civics right now.

As for the RX-7, I would probably get it and make it into my project car, meaning, I'll probably throw away so much money on it to make it into a drift car and advertise my company through it. That's what I meant, I'm not the type that is all show, but all show and go! I would keep it a flip-headlights, if not the RX-7, probably the MKIII Turbo Supra (1989-1992) Supras.

Plus, the kits I design helps the car with balance and aerodynamics :D

Civic Si (Hatchback?)
http://i.tnpv.us/pv/2003/11/04/HON2003110449192_pv.jpg
I see one every weekend =D someone my dad knows owns one and comes over every weekend.... DAMN it's nice ;)

Question:
If I were to install an Audio system on my car, what steps would I have to take in order to complete that installation?

Is it true that stopping using the clutch (is that how u spell it?) actually ruins the clutch? (manual cars)

Well, any time the clutch plate has friction on it (such as when feathering or shifting) it wears down the clutch a bit. Engine braking (downshifting to slow the car down) does wear the clutch down faster than simply putting it in nuetral and breaking. However, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. Engine braking means the actual brakes don't have to do as much work, thus saving the brake pads. You also have the advantage of not having to figure out what gear you need to be in if you aren't coming to a complete stop.

I engine brake wheneverall the time, and after almost 80,000 miles on my car I've had no clutch issues. So I wouldn't worry about it hurting anything. :)

I'm not a audio guy so I really can't answer your question about the installation but about your question with the clutch.

You're actually encouraged to press the clutch while in neutral whenever you're about to turn into an intersection or braking, like Gand said as well, "engine braking" is just another way to stop the car without having you press on the brakes although it really does wear down your clutch plate faster, it's completely safe unless you're in first gear, you have to press on the clutch in order to prevent from stalling.

Other than that, it's normal to press the clutch while stopping. I do it whenever I drive a manual tranny car and I get no problems.

And I was talking about the Gen 6 Civics. The 2006 models.
http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/photo-lib/image/photo05.jpg

I wouldn't stop without pressing the clutch pedal unless you want your engine to stop running XD

I never understood why people drive automatic cars.. :mellow: go Europe, for some reason 9/10 cars here are manual while in the US it's the other way around. Lazy bums... shifting makes driving more fun!

What about the new secuential transmissions (is that what their called?) How do you feel about those.

I cant drive for my life, few times ive driven was an aoutomatic, and I sucked, (hit the brakes to hard, couldnt keep constant speed etc.) I cant even Imagine what manual would be like *Shudders*

also dosent anyone thing the new BMW's look kinda... overdone? like they tried to hard to make em look futuristic/streamlined. @ first I hated the design but its slowly growing on me..

I wouldn't stop without pressing the clutch pedal unless you want your engine to stop running XD

I never understood why people drive automatic cars.. :mellow: go Europe, for some reason 9/10 cars here are manual while in the US it's the other way around. Lazy bums... shifting makes driving more fun!

Though I drive an auto I agree. If you drive with an auto, its not driveing but more like point, go, and abandon. To truely drive a car, you must shift! :lol:

What about the new secuential transmissions (is that what their called?) How do you feel about those.


I believe it's spelled Sequintial Transmission. They're not new, they've been around for over 10 years or so. They're only new to new cars today, like BMW's 2006 M5, and M3 CSLs. Also, HKS makes one of the best sequintial transmissions in the aftermarket today. Basically, it's a easier way and faster way to shift a car when racing. Shifting is everything in the racing scene because it determines a 100th of a second for each shift. The sequintial is there to help diminish that time lost while shifting. Of course, there's one where there's no clutch so all you do is shift up or down :heh: There's also the bad side to it, they're much weaker compared to the conventional regular transmission. They wear out faster, but what am I saying? They're sponsored so they don't have to worry about buying a new one. :heh:

And then there's one with the clutch so basically, the only thing that changed is the tranny. For everyday driving, I don't think it's much different compared to automatic cars with sport shifts, only that you have a clutch. that's the only the difference, but for racing, I would love to have that. :lol:

my LA auto show pix: http://solsar.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=114

What kind of cars do people drive around here? I only drive my mum's car, a 1999 Opel Astra Station XD Nothing special but hey, it gets me where I have to go =P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/aboot/3190951.jpg

(note: car in pic not actual car, just same model/colour =P )

Toyota Echo, I think we got it new in 1999/2000

New Mazda 3 Sedan should be comming in on the weekend with any luck.

Dad owns a Merc C200 Kompressor or whatever. Nice car, it really is. Driven it around a fair bit too.

They're all auto.

I own a 2005 Camry LE and 2003 Infiniti FX35.

My dad drives a 2003 Camry.
My mom drives the Infiniti since I drive the Camry. ^.^

That's only possible in America, really.

@ to all the clutch answers: yeah, I've been driving the manual like that.. I just heard from a guy that it's actually bad for the clutch. I thought to myself.. really? this Suzuki 1990 had been broken to pieces (like.. every bit..) and i NEVER fix the clutch?

@ civic 2006: oh that one. my friend's dad drives one, it's awesome man..

There was an autoshow here in Toronto a few days back and I couldn't go!!! (cries)...

One time me and a few of my friends went for a ride in one of my friends Geo. With the petal to the metal our top speed was.......45mph........10mph under the speed limit. Didn't we look cool with old ladies passing us.:lol:

My friend and I once went a 162 KM/H in his Renault Twingo. That was funny.

I think I went around 120 mph with my camry, around 130km/h I think? Anyways, I could of gone faster but I freaked out. The road wasn't all that great, full of potholes.

For the Infiniti, I never tried and I know it can go more than 160kmh.

50MPH ~ 80 KMH

I can't really figure out how to calculate mph to kmh. ??

30 MPH ~ 50 KMH
50 MPH ~ 80 KMH
80 MPH ~ 128 KMH
100 MPH ~ 160 KMH
120 MPH ~ 200 KMH

mph (times) 1.6 = Kmph right?

IDK ive always been told that 60 MPH=100KMH

just listen to Angelic, he seems to know what hes talking about.

62mph = 100kmh

Are manual transmission cars any cheaper than auto transmission cars? (in North America/US, because I know auto's are higher priced than the manuals in Europe.)

Also, do manual save money on gas?:lol:

Only if your shifting is good. It also depends on your driving style (regardless of the type of transmission). Revving up high uses a lot of petrol, revving it too low isn't good for the engine (revving up high isn't either actually).

Are manual transmission cars any cheaper than auto transmission cars? (in North America/US, because I know auto's are higher priced than the manuals in Europe.)

Yes they are. Manual transmissions are cheaper and easier to fix so they're cheaper than a automatic transmission. Automatics involves more engineering and work but around 70% or so consumers get them as option. Many cars today offer Automatic transmission as an option if both tranmissions are offered.

Manual transmissions are cheaper to build and easier to repair where an automatic transmission involves with sprockets and multiple gears to make it work. If one gear is worned out, you have to change the whole transmissions out. Where in the manual transmission, there are fewer problems: Flywheel, Clutch, driveshaft, etc. Most of the time, the clutch will be the problem area so you spend less money to replace the clutch instead of replacing a whole new transmission. :heh:

Also, about yoru question about gas, like Angelic said, it really depends on how you drive your car. Back in the day, cars with manual saved gas over automatics. Today, they're about the same so it wouldn't matter which on you get. It really depends on the driver's way of driving. ;)

around 70% or so consumers get them as option.

Erm.. where? Not in Europe, I think the automatics are less than 10% here, it's pretty much all manual (thank goodness).

Another bad thing about automatics is that they can't anticipate the driver's behaviour and switch gears accordingly.

Sorry, but I meant in the U.S.

But today's new cars with automatics, they learn the way the driver's drive. If the driver drives the way he does for the first 1000 miles, the car automatically notices the pattern and shifts gear depending on the driver's style of driving. Not all new cars can do it, but a majority do. My camry and my infiniti both memorized my way of driving and shifts where I want it to, but when I need the power, it usually shifts before hitting the redline, so not all is lost. :D

Has anyone driven on the Autobahn? It seems like a car enthusiast's dream come true!

Yeah, America has seemed to go the way of the Automatic, unfortunatly. It's very rare to find a manual in Los Angeles, because it's hard to drive in heavy stop-and-go freeway traffic with a manual. I think if I had one of those horrid commutes every day, i'd have to get an automatic. Thankfully, my freeway commute is at full-speed, and I don't have to give up the things i love about my manual, like the ability to slightly feather the clutch for smooth cornering.

I wished I could drive on the autobahn once, but what's the point if you have a car that can't no faster than 140 mph? If I had a car like a Lotus Elise or a Skyline GT-R, then maybe I would. :D

I don't really care about driving fast. It's boring. I only get a kick from accelerating really fast, as soon as the speed wears off I get bored again.

I don't really care about driving fast. It's boring. I only get a kick from accelerating really fast, as soon as the speed wears off I get bored again.
Me too. Acelleration and cornering. Going fast is a rush (140 mph on my bike was :w00t: ), but it's not that much fun. Coming out of a chicane into a left-hand sweeper.. now THAT's where it's at :D

Cornering at high speed is fun :D I do it all the time, lol.

Cornering at high speed is fun :D I do it all the time, lol.
You'd love riding a sportbike then :D

actually I'd prefer a fast car with rear wheel drive so I can drift :think:

As long you do it on the track, it's fun. Streets are no-no.

actually I'd prefer a fast car with rear wheel drive so I can drift :think:
you can drift with a bike... it's just not recommended off the track. :heh: Actually in sport racing you are supposed to be leaned over so far your rear wheel is just barely holding on to traction.. scary

xpeed is right; the track is where to push the limits. Whenever I drive/ride public roads, I go fast but I always leave enough in reserve so I can avoid the unknown, like sand, oil, or grandmas in the road.

Just the other week I went a 120 where 80 is allowed. It's just some stupid land road nobody really cares about, teehee :D


Love the sound of a high-revving engine :D

I love the high revs on the S2000s and NSX. Sooo purty.....

Any engine going over 4000 is good to me, not for too long though.

Depends on the engine's powercurve... 4k in my Saturn is fun since it's right in the curve (5.5k redline) but 4k on my FZ6 is boring (redline 14k, power curve starts around 8000). And yeah, the sound of an engine acellerating through the curve is awesome! :D

The curve? My mum's car goes up to 7000, then it gets in the red which I avoid.

Yes, we do have a car thread.

I think of cars as a form of art, not just to get you from A to B.

well..I just re-read this, would just like to say fastest production car is afaik no longer the veyron. It now seems to be the SCC Ultimate Aero...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8BJxkFNHE5o

I <3 topgear :3.

Anywayssss I agree to an extent that a car is not just "going from a to b" but this relies completely on the drivers purpose for the car.

-Old beater car for broke uni student.
-Manhood reclaimer for midlife crisis.
-fun weekend car (be it of the 4x4, sporty, or big and slow oldies)
-60 yearold guys M6, bought for comfort..never gone over 80...

Sure all these are cars, and they do get you from A to B but they differ in their purpose, and style and wether we like it or not (to some degree) influence on the overall image of the driver and his experience on the road.

Now lets argue about FWD and RWD!

http://www.snotr.com/video/771

Gimme!

http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/rs8/

Wow, thread revival! =D

http://www.snotr.com/video/771

Gimme!

Who would put a v8 in a Civic!? That's like... wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Z8PGixG7U

Stupid white boys with boat loads of money. Honestly, a Civic is a Civic, no other engines will change it.

What's wrong with a civic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Z8PGixG7U

Damn that car alarm is annoying as hell!


What's wrong with a civic?

Nothing's wrong with them. They are actually pretty neat cars ... it's just not a car that I would dream of one day owning or have a desire to upgrade. That's all. You know what I mean?

Civics are great for upgrading :D Plug and Play B)

Real cars don't need to be upgraded (i.e. Audis, Volkswagens, Porsches, BMWs, etc.)

Brabus, M, AMG, Rüf...list goes on..and they all beg to differ ;)

Brabus, M, AMG, Rüf...list goes on..and they all beg to differ ;)

that's different though, it's factory.

Real cars don't need to be upgraded (i.e. Audis, Volkswagens, Porsches, BMWs, etc.)

That type of car is for lazy people who like stock rubbish.

On top of that, someone who has a Smart for an avatar shouldn't even be allowed to post in a car thread.

That type of car is for lazy people who like stock rubbish.

On top of that, someone who has a Smart for an avatar shouldn't even be allowed to post in a car thread.

Don't dis smarts. What is your avatar anyway? I'm sick of this...maybe I might just not post here anymore.

that's different though, it's factory.

Not really, they're still an upgrade over the stock. There are no such thing as cars that shouldn't be modded. All cars can be modded. For example, you buying rims for the car or having aftermarket rims installed is still "upgrading" or "modding" your car. :heh:

Plus, Brabus, AMG, Ruf, Alpina, etc are independent companies. They're only affiliated with the car company because they only "upgrade" their cars or are only specialized in them. But they're still independent. AMG used to be an independent company but they were bought out in the late 80s. Still, they're a complete separate branch from M-Benz.

What are your thoughts on Active Yaw Control (AYC)? Sweet and owns lives or not so sweet and junk? Why?

Those are only found on Mitsu Evos. They're good in a way, it helps stabilize the car while it's off the road or whatnot. It basically puts more power to the front and rear wheels when the computer sensors the car is sliding on one side, thus helping it deliver more power to those wheels will help the driver gain back control without the risk of having the car spin out. It also prevents the wheels from losing traction. It's somewhat of an alternative to having a L.S.D.


Sweet and owns lives or not so sweet and junk? Why? This quote just confuses me.

Don't dis smarts. What is your avatar anyway? I'm sick of this...maybe I might just not post here anymore.

That's what you get for your elitism just because you have an audi >.>

Hmm, this leads me to another question then. Can the limited Limited Slip Differential really make drastic improvements in handling? Do this changes usually make a good difference or bad? How can you tell if the Limited Slip Accel/Deccel is set right?

Limited Slip Differential are good in overall. They're mainly for controlling the amount of torque and slippage of the drivetrain so that you won't lose torque and power if such conditions occurs on the road.

Setting it depends all on the driver. L.S.Ds are mainly used for sport cars with high-end power or race cars respectively. L.S.D.s are also used for awd cars such as Subarus. Cusco is a great example of this since Cusco manufactures one of the best L.S.D system available today.

L.S.Ds. have clutches that helps differentiate the amount of torque and slippage.
There are three different types of L.S.Ds, and it all depends on what you want for it.

There's a 1-way, 1.5-way, and 2-way L.S.Ds. 1-way are ideal for fwd cars and the safest out of the three. When you let go of the throttle, the L.S.D unlocks itself allowing no power to the wheels while a driver is turning or needs to take evasive maneuvers. 1.5-way is set for sport driving mostly but also retains the safety while driving. 2-way is the most extreme. It's ideal for drifters and rally drivers because the torque on the wheels retains it's power no matter how much throttle you put into it. Unlike the 1-way and 1.5 way, which helps the wheels from losing it's energy of momentum by minimizing lost power, the 2-way keeps the power consistently, thus giving the driver full control in throttle response to the wheels.

I hope that answered your question.

That's what you get for your elitism just because you have an audi >.>

No, I am not an elitist.... this thread is retarded....goodbye ichigos!

Bye! http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Zaru.gif

Sorry, but that's a bit lame. Just because you don't like me you're leaving the forums? :/

...and frankly, it's getting old. I think we make a formidable team though. I've scared away at least 6 people so far. What's your current count?

Oh gods, the last thing we need is you two collabarating XD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/aboot/d13b2_rood_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/aboot/d13b2_rood_2.jpg

Wheee \o

The vtec I4 of death!

It's shiny! ^.^

EDIT: Driving a Hummer...in Japan... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnXwQbxNeGA&feature=related

It's not a VTEC :(

The vtec I4 of death!

It's shiny! ^.^

EDIT: Driving a Hummer...in Japan... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnXwQbxNeGA&feature=related

All I know about Hummers in Japan is that Manabu Orido owns one and loves it.

Hummers aren't even real cars, more like trucks :/

Hummers make up for the"male sexual organ" that someone doesn't have. :P

Hummers make up for the"male sexual organ" that someone doesn't have. :P

So... only women buy them? :huh:

No, men with really tiny dicks.

No, men with really tiny dicks.

Lesbians? :sweat:

Give me a Fiat 500.

You should probably drive a tank to compensate :P

dual clutch transmissions.. didnt know those existed O_o

There's even triple clutch. ;)

^ I think Luis means the Double-Clutch Automatics that are found in BMWs, Audis, and Mercedes-Benz. Not the manual transmission.

Luis meant this:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/dual-clutch-transmission.htm

New rims :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/aboot/Civic_010308.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/aboot/Civic_010308_02.jpg

No more shaking steering wheel or automatic steering towards the left :P

^ Nice rims, did you get an alignment after? Maybe that's why your car steers to the left by itself. The shaking could probably be due to bad shocks or driveshaft.

Here's what I've done to my car lately.

LEDs!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC00885.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC00886.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC00887.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/DSC00888.jpg

Not quite. All the problems were because of the previous rims. One of them seems to be busted, which caused the shaking and the steering to the left. These rims give me no trouble at all.

Nice rims. What brand are they?

Buying rims are tricky. You need to worry about the tire size, width, and offsets of the bolts. Plus not to mention spacers that are required in case the rims rubs the wheel wells.

I don't like how the emblem in the middle of the rim sticks out (if that is an emblem...) But other than that, they look alright. My parents are looking to get a standard truck since we are movin to colorado soon, so I'll get to learn how to drive a stick! Yum

@Porsche: Borbet, though I call them Sorbet.
@Asuka: matter of taste
@Xpeed: tell me about it, I wasted over 150 euros trying to get my previous rims to fit properly but I kept having trouble with them >< hence the change :)

=) Yeah, all of my Family's vehicles have rims, we haven't had too good of experiences with hub caps. My Brother's hub cap flew off going down a gravel road and it wasn't fixable so we had to buy a whole new set for his car. Our old van had hub caps too and those went to shits too, I dun even remember how.

Man, I remember driving stick for the first time. I think I burned the clutch in my friend's Evo 8. :P After that, driving stick is easy. I think the hardest one I drove was a 350Z and the Evo. Other cars were easy to get used to.

Whaha, driving stick is a piece of cake :lol:

Over winter break, my one team mate borrowed a car that was a manual... "I can drive a stick. It's easy!"

I think I broke my neck and the car stalled three times before it started. XD

Then another team mate who was riding in the car too said, "Come on, let me try it. It can't be that hard you just suck." So we pulled into an empty parking lot and gave him the wheel and he tried to move the stick but couldn't.

"You have to push in the clutch." I said.

"What's a clutch?" as my friend proceeded to look on the dash board for a button marked clutch. XD

^ That's classic. The first time I stalled, I couldn't turn the ignition on again and I freaked out thinking I broke the car. Nope, I just didn't know I had to press the clutch to turn the ignition on. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Argh.png

Yeah, driving stick is easy, but once you start driving a car with high horsepower, it gets trickier. XD Honda's are the easiest cars to drive manual, except for the Accord V6 I test drove....that thing was stiff as hell.

Is everyone in America so clueless about clutches? x_x

^ Mostly everyone in America drives automatics. Where most in Europe drives manual. We Americans are lazy.

I know that, but to not even know there's a clutch involved @_@

I know that, but to not even know there's a clutch involved @_@

That was my same reaction. I felt empty inside after that. XD There was a time when there was nothing but manuals in the US back when it was a rip off to pay $0.20 9/10 *rantfromfather* x_x

Whaha, driving stick is a piece of cake :lol:

Real men drive with sticks.

Real men drive with sticks.
Was that sarcastic?
I don't see what the point of driving stick is. It's not like I'm racing people all the time.

Real men drive with sticks.

Real men drive with sticks.
The exception is Soviet Russia where sticks drive with real men.

Angelic~

Your car would be bomb if it had angel eye headlights. BTW nice rims.

Was that sarcastic?
I don't see what the point of driving stick is. It's not like I'm racing people all the time.

Race cars these days are automatic. :heh: Or more of an advance automatic.

Race cars these days are automatic. :heh: Or more of an advance automatic.

And the VW DSG is faster than a stick and get better fuel economy.

Race cars these days are automatic. Or more of an advance automatic.
Hahah, I didn't know that!
Why are sticks important at all then?

It makes you feel badass when you change gears.

That's why

With manual, you can control when you want to shift gears, automatics shifts gears for you at certain rpm and speed. Racing Transmissions aren't fully automatic. You still need to change the gears yourself. You can think of it as a clutchless manual transmission, which are what F1 transmissions and sequential-transmissions are. That's what the paddle shifters are for. To minimize the time wasted using your arm to shift gears and time wasted letting go of the throttle.

With manual, you can control when you want to shift gears, automatics shifts gears for you at certain rpm and speed. Racing Transmissions aren't fully automatic. You still need to change the gears yourself. You can think of it as a clutchless manual transmission, which are what F1 transmissions and sequential-transmissions are. That's what the paddle shifters are for. To minimize the time wasted using your arm to shift gears and time wasted letting go of the throttle.

I <3 paddle shifters. I also like sport mode

Angelic~

Your car would be bomb if it had angel eye headlights. BTW nice rims.

If I can get used ones (new ones are fucking expensive x_x)

I'm probably gonna lower it 4 CM soon :)

Current mods:

- Coupé gauges
- Metallic red valve cover
- Borbet 14" alloy rims

Plans:

- lowering springs
- Spoonstyle spoiler
- Catback
- 4-2-1 exhaust manifold
- Bumperlips
- treat rust in rear wheel arches
- Shortshifter
- Type-R shiftknob
- electric windows
- artificial leather (dark red) on door panels
- blue gauge lights
- foglights
- Window visors
- Luxury centre console or cupholders (can't combine the two)
- Angel Eyes

^ Wow, that's a lot of money spent right there.

The only mods I have on my car are:
PIAA Reverse Hyper White Bulbs
Nokya 9006 Super White Bulbs
PIAA LED Parking Light Bulbs
Luxer 12LED Dome Lights
Luxer 3LED Plate Lights
Aluminum Accent Camry Door Sills
TRD Front Strutbar

Future Mods:
TRD or Tein-S lowering springs
TRD RSB
TRD Exhaust or an HKS Universal muffler
Custom Titanium Headers
Injen SRI Intake
17" Gram Lights 57F-Pro w/ Potenza RE050
SE Grille
Custom bodykit (If I can get around it)
Bulb Color change in center console.

Don't want to spend too much on a Camry since I'm saving up to buy a new car, either a Nissan 350Z or a Subaru Legacy GT B4. I'm keeping the Infiniti.

Want to see something that's a total waste, but beautiful mod on your car?

This, it costs $4100 US just to let you know.
http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/items/Amuse_z33_rs_silent_gr.jpg
Full Titanium, so it's lighter than stock

Aren't foglights required by law in Europe?

@Angelic: The angel eye lights are only $50-$100 USD (33€-66€) on the American eBay Motors (ebaymotors.com).

^ Wow, that's a lot of money spent right there.

The only mods I have on my car are:
PIAA Reverse Hyper White Bulbs
Nokya 9006 Super White Bulbs
PIAA LED Parking Light Bulbs
Luxer 12LED Dome Lights
Luxer 3LED Plate Lights
Aluminum Accent Camry Door Sills
TRD Front Strutbar

Future Mods:
TRD or Tein-S lowering springs
TRD RSB
TRD Exhaust or an HKS Universal muffler
Custom Titanium Headers
Injen SRI Intake
17" Gram Lights 57F-Pro w/ Potenza RE050
SE Grille
Custom bodykit (If I can get around it)
Bulb Color change in center console.

Don't want to spend too much on a Camry since I'm saving up to buy a new car, either a Nissan 350Z or a Subaru Legacy GT B4. I'm keeping the Infiniti.

Want to see something that's a total waste, but beautiful mod on your car?

This, it costs $4100 US just to let you know.
http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/items/Amuse_z33_rs_silent_gr.jpg
Full Titanium, so it's lighter than stock

Did I read right? You moded at Toyota Camry, America's hottest selling family car? :heh:

^ Oh my friend, you don't know how many people mod camrys in the US. I have dozens of friends that spent over $5000 in parts. I have a friend that had a turbocharged camry and spent $25k from his own pocket. I have others that have turbocharged, supercharged camrys as well. Hahaha

These are some of the people I know that have modded camrys.


http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/mokaru/Picture006.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/mohammadz/IMG_7957.jpg

Camry:
http://autos.yahoo.com/2007_toyota_camry/

15k or so.. say 10 if its a bit older..

+ 25k out of pocket = atleast 35k...


http://autos.yahoo.com/2007_bmw_3_series_coupe/


...why?
Is there something Im missing? (yes I am a BMW lover)

^ Lol those two cars can't even be compared. One thing for sure, Camry is a FWD, the BMW is RWD. Camry aren't sporty, the BMW is.....maybe if you compared it with the Lexus IS.

I'm not a Toyota fan, but those two do look nice. I am with Luis on this one, German cars rock!
Don't get me wrong, Toyotas are good too, just not as fun.

^ Lol those two cars can't even be compared. One thing for sure, Camry is a FWD, the BMW is RWD. Camry aren't sporty, the BMW is.....maybe if you compared it with the Lexus IS.

lol not saying they're comparable, jsut confused as to why you would drop 25k on a camry when "bigger/better" cars are available for the same price..chose the BMW 'cause I guessed it would be in that pricerange and a quick google confirmed it.

Just trying to understand is all XD

^ Not really, the top of the line camry will only reach $32k, while a base BMW 330i will start at $32k. Google isn't a reliable source for car pricing either. Either way, a BMW is a whole other class. I like the new BMW 3-Series though, my friend has one and it's okay, but it's not as comfortable as my camry. My Infiniti on the other hand is stiff as a old man on Viagra.

Aren't foglights required by law in Europe?

@Angelic: The angel eye lights are only $50-$100 USD (33€-66€) on the American eBay Motors (ebaymotors.com).

They are, but they sit inside the main headlight units. I mean bumper foglights :P

And I'm not sure if US angel eyes are allowed in Europe, you know, rules and such :think:

^ LoL, I'm pretty sure they are since US has such strict laws about car modifications. US are so anal about people modding their vehicles, it's ridiculous. SUVs and Jeeps are allowed to have under/neon lights, but are illegal on cars. Not like I want to do it but I would like to have VIP lights under my Infiniti. I don't know if I can on my Infiniti because I don't know if it's an SUV or a giant hatchback?

Note: Never ever get angel headlights from eBay. They suck like shite. It's better if you custom-make your own.

If you think the US are strict, think again. In the Netherlands you can't do half the stuff you can in the US XD

I either get my stuff from a Dutch civic forum, or from import shops so I know I get the right stuff \o

Haha, I think California is pretty strict. They'll crush your car if you have any go-fast modifications in your car. That's only if they catch you street racing. Hahaha, pretty funny to see the owners watch their own cars get crushed in their face.

Spain = strict central.. cant even swap tire sizes/ interior mods are iffy afaik, exterior mods (simple thing as a bumper swap = yearly cost to you)

Glad I don't live in Europe. I think Japan is the best place for modding cars.

Haha, I think California is pretty strict. They'll crush your car if you have any go-fast modifications in your car. That's only if they catch you street racing. Hahaha, pretty funny to see the owners watch their own cars get crushed in their face.

Ah, we don't get that crap. Rules are stricter, also for police :P

I'm sure this is a good place to ask this so...
I'm looking for a car for under 5 grand USD. So, probably an older model with nearly, if not over 100k miles on it. It has to be a manual transmission, and preferably, an engine that goes vroom vroom. Liiiike, a V6 with dual over head cams =) I've looked some into Honda, but they mostly have 4 cylinder inlines and well, those aren't very fun...

Why not a I-6 car? The only V6 cars that are under $5k I can think of are old camaros. You can get a MKIII Supra Turbo for that much too.

I'm sure this is a good place to ask this so...
I'm looking for a car for under 5 grand USD. So, probably an older model with nearly, if not over 100k miles on it. It has to be a manual transmission, and preferably, an engine that goes vroom vroom. Liiiike, a V6 with dual over head cams =) I've looked some into Honda, but they mostly have 4 cylinder inlines and well, those aren't very fun...

You shouldn't buy Honda. You should buy an American car. Preferably one with a really bad mileage. It just fits you way better than anything fuel efficient :/

And if you think 4 cylinder engines can't be any fun you're utterly mistaken. Honda Civic with a B16 engine with DOHC and maybe even turbo = a lot of fun. Keep in mind that all those crappy American V6 cars are two tons of steel you're dragging along, while a civic is less than one ton.

inline 4...makes me think inline vs V engines.. makes me think of the inline 4's and 6's in 3 series, supras... also makes me think of Camaro SSes...and boxsters XD.

Now I feel like looking @ cool cutaways of engines :(

@ xpeed: well, correct me if I'm wrong, but V6s tend to be found in more smaller, coupe or sedan type cars. I mean, isn't an inline 6 engine rather big? Though, I-6 or V6 really doesn't matter to me, it's just cylinder positioning afaik (correct me if I'm wrong please). Oh, and my parents currently own a Mercury (I dunno the specific model) and it has a V6 and they got it for 5.5k. But it's an automatic and I'm really looking for a standard transmission car. I'll look into the MKIII Supra, but it looks like a pretty nice car, dunno if I'd ever get it for cheap though, but I haven't really looked into it yet, so you may be right about getting it for under 5k.

@Angelic: Lol, alright. Find me a "Honda Civic with a B16 engine with DOHC and maybe even turbo" for under five grand USD. Keep in mind I do live in America, I don't buy gas by the liter. It is considerably cheaper here. Getting a car that gets 35+ mpg is not my biggest worry. Besides, I've never seen a Honda Civic that wasn't automatic. Oh, and just a tip; take that stick out of your ass, I'm pretty sure nobody on this forum appreciates you leaving it in there.

You know what, get an old rusty pickup. It fits your hillbilly nature.

And seriously, don't get a manual car, it doesn't fit your all-american attitude.

edit: this fits you perfectly:

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/79/42/22424279.jpg

Lol, vent it all out Angelic. Whatever makes you feel better inside. If it takes a post like that to raise your self-confidence, I'm all for it. If not though, I recommend refraining for posts like that, nobody on this forums gives a shit.

Though, I am wondering how a manual transmission isn't "all-american".

STOP , breathe in deep a couple times before you post again. Remember: Nobody cares about your stereo-type bullshit.

^ Wow, where's the steam valve when you need one? A I-6 is about the same size as a V6, doesn't matter how the cylinders and pistons are positioned. A v6 is practically found in every car these days, but I doubt you'd find one that's "fun" and with a manual tranny under 5k. There are several AE86s, Nissan 240sx, 180sx, Toyota Celica, Toyota MKIII Supra for under 5k. You just need to search hard for them in keep shape.

Yeah, I'm moving to Colorado Springs soon enough, so I'll have Colorado Springs's and Denver's Classifieds to look through =) Just need a place to start really.

inline 4...makes me think inline vs V engines.. makes me think of the inline 4's and 6's in 3 series, supras... also makes me think of Camaro SSes...and boxsters XD.

Now I feel like looking @ cool cutaways of engines :(

You sir have just offended me (I think...). :P
Can anyone guess why?

You sir have just offended me (I think...). :P
Can anyone guess why?

l4:
e30

l6:
3 series between the e30 and the current model, supras

v8:
Camaro SS

boxster engine:
...boxster O_o

Im guessing you thought I meant boxter had v8?

Lol, vent it all out Angelic. Whatever makes you feel better inside. If it takes a post like that to raise your self-confidence, I'm all for it. If not though, I recommend refraining for posts like that, nobody on this forums gives a shit.

Though, I am wondering how a manual transmission isn't "all-american".

STOP , breathe in deep a couple times before you post again. Remember: Nobody cares about your stereo-type bullshit.

But your problem is that you match the stereotype for a hillbilly perfectly.

So...apparently my best friend just bought a new car... Nice.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h255/porschegtiii/n1463820012_30040171_366.jpg

So...apparently my best friend just bought a new car... Nice.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h255/porschegtiii/n1463820012_30040171_366.jpg

Me likey

I love that new cars are so shiny and smell like chemicals :teeth:

Shame of the rims and the side mirrors :(

lol dont mind the rims, mirrors do suck... not a fan of the color, but hey brand new carrrrrrrr.

Wait that is the older A4 model. A 2003 model I believe. The newer ones look like this.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/A4-02.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/A4-01.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/A4-04.jpg

What's with the lights?

What's with the lights?

they are LED DRLs (they are on for safety reasons) and they look cargasmic. It's actually a 1999.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp

For the lazy :)

What's with the lights?

Those are LED DRLs. All new Audis have them now. The R8 started it. ^_^

Those are LED DRLs. All new Audis have them now. The R8 started it. ^_^

not all of them have it yet.

And it looks ugly!

I rather like it to be honest, tho not on all cars.

not all of them have it yet.

Right, only the R8, A4, A5, Q7, and the A6 have them for now.

I like them. I'm gonna put some on my car soon. The pictures don't do them justice; they look amazing in real life.

Sooo... when are you trading your car in for a smart? :whistle:

Sooo... when are you trading your car in for a smart? :whistle:

I'm not. We are still buying the smart. We might keep it, but we will most likely sell it. I would not trade in my car in for anything, not even a Ferarri.

I'm not. We are still buying the smart. We might keep it, but we will most likely sell it. I would not trading my car in for anything, not even a Ferarri.

Lol, I so would (and then sell the ferrari and buy my own car back + profit :D )

thatd be a tradein + diference... then youd sell the ferrari for less than retail = losses.

..duh

Once you drive that red Ferrari out of the dealer, the cost of the car drops $40,000. LoL

Except the Enzo, the worth of the car goes up when every Enzo gets destroyed. :lol:

thatd be a tradein + diference... then youd sell the ferrari for less than retail = losses.

..duh

Not if I got it for free:bleh:

Not if I got it for free:bleh:

and the chances of that are...

*sigh* it was hypothetical.. -_-

*sigh* it was hypothetical.. -_-

I know lol, but I am a realist... sometimes.. am I?... yes I am.... no I'm not?

^ Sometime you don't make any sense at all. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/xpeed/Argh.png

tomorrow Showoffimports meetup ^_^

BMW 5 Series. I would love to have one of those.

But my dream car is most likely an NSX, they aren't being produced any more are they?

^ Honda is developing a new sport car but I don't think it'll come out as a NSX name.

ahh thats a shame... :(

ahh thats a shame... :(

Yeah, the NSX was a damn good looking car.

I'm just amazed that Honda developed one back then. Too bad it was overpriced for what you get.

I'm going to convert my single-carb engine to a dual-carb one soon :)

OMG I never knew Angelic was into cars!! 0.0 0.0 0.0

But yeah, looking forward to that car from Honda.

I've started to get quite fond of Sti's... my sister's boyfriend has a year 2006 blue STi with 2nd stage turbo and lots of other fun stuff like that... and man... is his car loud!! I can hear his car within a library 10 blocks away!

^ That's probably a whisper compared to F1 exhausts. I've seen some idiot put it in his S2000 and damn, did it sound good but he probably looked like a dumbass to other people that don't know anything about cars. :lol:

Putting big ass turbos in your car is a very dumb idea. If you go too big, your turbo lag will greatly affect your acceleration. You need to find a happy medium when it comes to turbos. I would recommend upgrading the natural aspiration of your engine before upgrading with a turbo. /RandomCarRant :heh:

^ That's not true at all. You can prevent a big turbo lag if you know how to mod the engine correctly to accommodate lag for the turbo to spool. Porsche, BMW, and a few other manufacturers have come up a way to lessen the lag.

Also, the stages of turbos isn't necessarily mean it's an upgrade to a bigger turbo. It's merely stages to accommodate the turbo to be better and faster, such as wastegate pipings, turbo manifolds, piping, boost control, etc.

True, true. I was referring more to the people who think they can just randomly throw in a big ass turbo into a car and not do anything else and wonder why other cars beat them in general.

My brother had a VL Turbo (yes i'm wog) and once he doesed it past a guy on a bicycle and he fell of because it was so loud :P

True, true. I was referring more to the people who think they can just randomly throw in a big ass turbo into a car and not do anything else and wonder why other cars beat them in general.


LOL, I don't know what people you're talking to.

OOhh, I'll get a pic of the car...

Oh, and just for reference... Subarus are quite bumpy!...

Lol, Not sure it's because has bad tires or because Subaru sports cars are the off road rally type... But it was quite bumpy...

Once he had to go pee really bad and he said the bouncing of the car was just torturing him about it lol...

^ The "bouncing" bit is probably due to his suspensions. If he tuned his suspensions with sport aftermarket parts, it'll probably be stiffer than the stock.

Lol yeah, that's why I was thinking that since Subaru is more of a sport/racing style company, that they'd base more of their sport lines on actual rally/race cars...

Kinda like the Lancer Evo eh?

Oh yeah... here's some pics of his car...

He said he wants it to be as stock as possible. And i don't believe he wants to pump anymore power in it than it already has... I mean, everyone's so scared to race him down here lol...

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/xTxBLOODY_DRAGONxTx/l_d4b7faed44a1507907a6bdecc8f2e3e6.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/xTxBLOODY_DRAGONxTx/l_0126913718a9ee2acc63f571013e734c.jpg

Impreza's are just ugly I think, don't care if they're fast, they're ugly x_x

^ *gasp* Well, the new one are, but I like the one Crimson posted. That one is my favorite one so far, right behind the 1996-2000 models.

I think the one posted above is actually the ugliest impreza, but they are all kinda... yuck. I'd prefer a lanevo anytime.

I like the old Rally Concept version of the Impreza... looks something like this...

This is a '01 Subaru Impreza WRX

http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/subaru/imprezawrx_1.jpg

Of course Angelic picks the car that rivals the Impreza. (Just pulling your leg :P)


"LanEvo" can be seen in the Initial D anime series, where it gets it's ass whooped by an 86 Toyota Corolla GT-S, also known as the "hachi-roku".

Asian: My LanEvo smoked your Honda Civic, you fucking spic.



Isn't she pretty? XD
1998 Porsche 911 GT1 Evo

http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/porsche/911gt1evo_2.jpg

For now my favorite car is the Audi R8.

oddly enough I just saw one of those yesterday.. only just passed infront of me, say 15-20m away. I had forgotten how beaky its hood looked.

For now my favorite car is the Audi R8.

Nice.

Lol, I'd say that the Aston Martin DB8's got my interest right now... I mean, don't yall think Lamborginis and Ferraris are gettin a bit too popular?

And I second the Audi's. They're real chubby for me, but they seem pretty comfortable to me...

Especially the one they tested on Top Gear one day.

My favorite manufactures:

Audi
BMW
Volkswagen
smart


BMW M6:
http://www.bmwinfo.com/0256.jpg

Lol, I'd say that the Aston Martin DB8's got my interest right now...

Why the DB8 and not the V12 Vanquish? :huh:

The BMW 6-series is ugly, the nose looks too fat and the headlights are awful x_x

The 5 series looks nice though, as does the 3 series. Still, I associate BMW's with fat germans who drive too fast and keep pushing onto my back when I'm on the motorway XD same for Audi, Mercedes, Volvo and Renault Lagunas :/

Anyone see the BMW M9? :shifty:

Nope, tho I have heard very little about the X6...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T1o-FIHuqI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_X6

I think SUV's are sooo stupid XD Well, in the netherlands anyway. This country is so flat that there's absolutely no need for BMW X5's, Audi Q7's, Kia Sorentos and all that crap. And it's annying when they drive behind me because their headlights blind me!

On a totally different note, I went to a civic meetup tonight, which was really cool ^_^

There is no such thing as a M9 from BMW you silly goose.

On a totally different note, I went to a civic meetup tonight, which was really cool ^_^

Sweet. Did you have the best one? XD

Oh I'm sorry I meant to to say the M6.... Deepest apologies.... But I do think they have an M9 concept from back in like 98'... I don't know...

Sweet. Did you have the best one? XD

No. In fact, mine was the most stock one. Something to do with a severe lack of money XD Though I did get inspiration :D

No. In fact, mine was the most stock one. Something to do with a severe lack of money XD Though I did get inspiration :D

You know, I've been thinking about getting a 98' Honda Civic V-TEC as my first project car. But only problem I have with them is that they are very common. And the fact that you can't really push em to hard because they only have a V4

http://i.neoseeker.com/gg/uploads/news/4-2008/news_img_8774_1.jpg

...do it O_o

lol wtf?

That is an awesome valve cover.

I bet everyone who would see that at a car show or meet would laugh their asses off.

Actually someone at the meeting had a cover just like that, but cooler :P

It's been two years since I got my driving license and I've not driven a car since.

This summer is going to be fun. o_O'''

Hopefully you haven't forgotten how to lol :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Bouli/Rekkie/boulisig.jpg

Third pic, bit small but couldn't find a bigger pic XD

Lol at least you haven't riced it out... But I don't really like the baby blue color on it... But that's just me.

Porsche 9ff GT9
http://www.9ff.de

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Tuners/9ff/gt9/9ff_GT9_MotorAuthority_002.jpg

Top Speed: 254.77mph
Engine: Boxer-6
Position: Mid Longitudinal
Power: 736.0 kw / 987 bhp
BHP/Weight: 759.23 bhp per tonne
Driven Wheels: Carbon Fibre over 911 Front Backbone & Rear Steel Tubular Frame
F Suspension: H&R Suspension
R Suspension: H&R Suspension
Weight: 1300 kg / 2866 lbs


Give me. :drool:

I like the back, but I like the newer headlights a bit better.... But that's my opinion.

Here's some great car photos, lol jk, this is hilarious.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/xTxBLOODY_DRAGONxTx/normal_ricer.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/xTxBLOODY_DRAGONxTx/normal_stupid_mod.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/xTxBLOODY_DRAGONxTx/222escort2a.jpg

why do the rear tires look like they're made of paper? O_o (on the porsche)

I'd say it's a photoshopped image.

Also cardboard decorating cars for events is far from new :\

^There was this one guy that actually made a decent kit out of cardboard boxes and fiberglass. LOL

lol wow..

I'll pick this car up later today:

http://pics1.vampirefreaks.com/E/Es/EsS/EsSieJ_/25036206.jpg

Two Civics!? You going to drive one and make one pretty? XD

make the sedan pretty and ditch the hatchback :P, sedans ftw, with time maybe a repaint and a dollying up of the engine?

Yea I don't like plain red on civics... it just makes it look so ricey

O_o.. how the hell does plain red make any car look ricey? rims/wings/stickers/hood clamps .... those make things ricey

sedans ftw,

O.o

Unless your a 50 year old asian man (no racist remark meant) why in the world would you chose a sedan over a hatch? Hatchs own :)

Why doesn't the hood match?

I don't even see the picture. '_'

O.o

Unless your a 50 year old asian man (no racist remark meant) why in the world would you chose a sedan over a hatch? Hatchs own :)

Ugly for both:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/cadillac-models/DSC00636.JPG

http://www.carbodydesign.com/production-cars/2005-07-19-renault-clio-preview/2006%20Renault%20Clio%201.jpg

Nice for both:
http://www.nic.fi/~ruuna/pics/muut/bullit.jpg
http://reviews.carreview.com/files/2007/10/bmw_m3_saloon4.jpg

all comes down to preference and per-model basis I guess...

still, sedans FTW... hatchbacks make me think of roaches in most cases O_o.. like.. random bugs with wheels and stuff.

Oh I see.... So I guess you're saying that Volkswagon GTI's are ugly huh? is that it? I am insulted...

sucks to be you then...

Not all hatches are bad, I mean look at the Lancia Delta.

Lancia is ugly.

I'm selling my HB. And it's not a sedan, it's a coupé. Sedan has 4 doors.

Well, I'm looking at it as a designer's perspective, but I think the hottest hatch is the Mazdaspeed3. Or the Mazdaspeed Axela.

I actually like the new Toyota Matrix 2008 Matrix Hatchbacks, as well as the new Honda Civic hatchbacks... but that's more becuase I'm more into the modern, sleek design stuff.

Though I still have a heart for the old stuff too...

Golf gtw w12 FTW!

http://www.autounleashed.com/images/wallpapers/vw_golf_gti_w12_concept1.jpg

I mean come on, how can you say no to that!

Easy. No. ^_^

yay
56k mileage 96 cavalier for 2.7k
most likely a shitty car
but i get 36mpg and gets me from point A to point B

and i concur with dodge
i simply say nahh i'm good