Through out life we hear the terms physical and emotional love. Obviously they arnt the same for they are seperated into two diffrent catigories.

Homosexuals like thier own gender, Bi's like both genders and Hetrosexuals like like the opposite gender. Now, is it physical, emotional or love of both types? The reason why it matters is because physical love is based on gender and race but emotional love has no restrictions what so ever.

I think that when you love someone enough to get married its based on emotional love, not physical. If so then why shouldnt homosexuals get the right to get married? I could easly be in love with a male (I'm gay) physicaly but be in love with a females personality.

Also, which is more important, physical love or emotional love.

(I dont know how to word what else I'm thinking...)

Through out life we hear the terms physical and emotional love. Obviously they arnt the same for they are seperated into two diffrent catigories.

Homosexuals like thier own gender, Bi's like both genders and Hetrosexuals like like the opposite gender. Now, is it physical, emotional or love of both types? The reason why it matters is because physical love is based on gender and race but emotional love has no restrictions what so ever.

I think that when you love someone enough to get married its based on emotional love, not physical. If so then why shouldnt homosexuals get the right to get married? I could easly be in love with a male (I'm gay) physicaly but be in love with a females personality.

Also, which is more important, physical love or emotional love.

(I dont know how to word what else I'm thinking...)

well... now the world has changed alot! alot and i mean alot!!!!

20 years ago... in china, you could leave your house's front door open and relax and go fishing or something... now you have to have 2 doors (1 thats METAL!)...
divorce rate has increased to an average of 50% surprisingly enough, the Christian community is also catching up.
Emotional i feel is that they like the SOUL within the BODY of some person. A true relationship i feel is the SOUL (or emotional love) while BODY (or physical love) can enhance it!

It sounds like you hit the nail right on the head. I think Emotional love can be between any two people regardless of gender and race, and physical love is basically Lust. The basis of physical love is sex and procreation, where as emotional love is wanting to be with that person and having that feeling that you want to spend the rest of your life with them.

If you love one of the samre gender, are you a homosexual? I mean...? You like your friends, which should include at least one person of the same gender, and its not that you love them but to like their personality to a point or else you wouldnt be friends. It doesnt make you gay, does it?

If you want a friend of the same gender you would be called gay.. right?

Opinions people!

If you love one of the samre gender, are you a homosexual? I mean...? You like your friends, which should include at least one person of the same gender, and its not that you love them but to like their personality to a point or else you wouldnt be friends. It doesnt make you gay, does it?

If you want a friend of the same gender you would be called gay.. right?

Opinions people!

No! I'm sure everybody has at some time or another had friends of the same gender, that doesn't make you gay. But emotinal love is just that, emotional. You can feel one way for a person one moment and hate them the next, it's just emotional.

both are important.
to become emotionally involved with someone, you have to be physically attracted to that person first.

both are important.
to become emotionally involved with someone, you have to be physically attracted to that person first.


I dont think so...

"shes kinda ugly but she's smart, not gonna get er in teh sack but good for a talk"
"wow she's really smart and cool"
"I might bang her if she wanted"

get me idea?:sweat:

About the friend thing, no, in my opinion there are diferent types of love, the way you love your sis/bro is diferent from the way you love your lover.

One type is not better then the other, but since love as a whole is a mix of physical and emotional attraction its diferent. (But whatever you do with your sis...is ....well your problem XD)

I dont think so...

"shes kinda ugly but she's smart, not gonna get er in teh sack but good for a talk"
"wow she's really smart and cool"
"I might bang her if she wanted"

get me idea?:sweat:

About the friend thing, no, in my opinion there are diferent types of love, the way you love your sis/bro is diferent from the way you love your lover.

One type is not better then the other, but since love as a whole is a mix of physical and emotional attraction its diferent. (But whatever you do with your sis...is ....well your problem XD)

:lol:

yeah, I get the idea. but that happens when you're in close association with the girl. However, in cases where you've just met the girl for the first time, won't you be judging on appearances first?

Yeah you will (thats why I put uglyness and then smarts, not the other way around)

I think love is emotional. If you are in love (yeah, love) you seem to think the other person is physically attrative. Doesn't that seem oddening? Like, before you didn't know the person liked the things you did, or have interests in the same thing-they might not be as physically attrative then, but now they seem like they've blossomed up.

I know it seems weird, but it's creepy. Like I know the girl that I really like now, was attractive (physically) but now that I know she likes me and I like her even more, she seems like a stone-cold fox almost :heh: . I know, weird.

~~~

Anyway, love (when you know it) is when you get the feeling of what the other person is feeling. For instance, now that I know that girl likes me back, I have a feeling that she is shy. This MIGHT as well be her first "relationship" like this-so I could understand. Though, it's DEFINATELY mine, but I called her.

I could also see love being oddening to people, sometime you can't think straight or anything-YOUR A MESS! In a short, short time, your mind will come to a clearity.

I know I haven't talked to her in a little while, but I am sure I will, but it seems that I've gotten past the "OMG WTF" stage within this time.

And the saying, "Separation makes the heart grow fonder." Is killing me now. :cry: Anyway, I still am in awe that a person like me is liked by a girl like that.

And love, for instance, IS true. I was preety hated for the world, but now I am making a change in my attitude and opening up to other people.

Seriously, if you are "sicluded" talking to someone that you are fond for CAN help.

You know what I hate? Scientists (and other people( who come up with theories of what love really is. Some of you said in another thread that love was something created by evolution to keep us going. That it was just a decoy to stay alive. There are countless of other theories that it's something in our brain which signals us to feel a certain way. I like things to be explained - especially the unexplainable, but love is something I want to keep a mystery. We need some uncertainty in our world... even the moon has lost its mystical aura, wouldn't you say? Let love be what it is =P

I'm down.

Just speaking my mind in my last post. :shifty:

You know what I hate? Scientists (and other people( who come up with theories of what love really is. Some of you said in another thread that love was something created by evolution to keep us going.

Please, please bear with me. You reminded me of an old story I once heard. I think it went something like...
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Once upon a time there was a Buddhist priest and his three disciples with him. The priest picked a flower and asked his three disciples what it was and what it meant to them. The first was spiritual and talked on and on of the spiritual essence and symbology of the flower, representing how it signifies that things are not forever, etc, etc.
The second wanted a one upper and told of all the the scientific facts of the flower. He informed his master of the stamin, pollen, how seeds were produced, etc.
The third was somewhat frustrated. When asked why he simply said that he could not give the answer. His comrads had disected it to fast for him to take in the flower's true essence. Or something like that.
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(tell me if I missed anything if anyone heard this sory before)

Anyway, I'm sure love is like a flower. You could disect it scientificly and maybe even get some results, or you could on getting all poetic, romantic, and maybe even start looking who your compatible with (I've met couples who are together because of horoscopes and what not).

Love is meant to be enjoyed. It's not perfect, or flawless, or even emotional at times (emotions can be hasty and wrong sometimes). Its simply and utterly giving yourself completely to another in trust and companionship for life. In thick and thin, sickness and health. It's sacred and should not be taken lightly by any means.

In short, good judgement is so IMPORTANT, but like someone posted before, I don't think its possible to TRULLY understand the workings of love.

Well to me it seems that love is something special that forms a bond with another person that in time will bring the two beings together.

i can go on and on about my thoeries on love, soul mates, ect.
but for everyone it is different.

Love is an emotion, but yet it is something more than that. I can't really say what it is. I do know that there are three kinds of love, according to the greeks: agape, phileo, and eros. Each love that I "give" to other people depends on what my realtionship is that said person. But I don't think that to love someone, you don't have to be attracted to their physical body. I'm not saying that physical looks isn't a factor, but it is important to love the actual person instead of just their body.

Its difficult to explain, and I know I did a horrible job jumping around the place. :/

Love is far too broad a term to accuratly define. It can be sadness, happyness, meloncholy, even the lack of these things. Masochist find love in pain, romantics find love in the uncommon, regulars find love as a natural conspiring thing.

The word itself holds about 24 different definitions in the dictionary, and even then dicitonarys vary descriptions that leave vague traces of the word with a light residual of what it should be.

I guess what I'm comming to is that love is everything we say and do. Can you not say that you love yourself? Can you not say that you love taking a breath?

In the ninteen years of my life I can only come to this choice: everything can be fit in love; be it physical, mental, emotional, even metaphysical.

Hmmm.... ?

Meta-physical?

There isn't a hyphen because I didn't compound the word myself (check Webster and Oxfords dictionaries ;)).

You cannot deny that there is something that cannot be seen or perceved on a measureable level when it comes to love. This is why I used metaphysical. A good example of this is how religious people relate themselves to a diety. You cannot prove or know that they exist, yet you can still love them (don't go any further with this, please; the religion thread was locked remember!).

I agree with you on that that we dont need to be attracted to the persons physical body of a person. I think that people get attracted to a persons physical appearance because they or we belive that physical appearance always repreasents how the person is to other people.

I'm not sure

But physical attraction varies for each person. I mean, I am physically attracted to certain traits in face and body (I'm actually starting to realise what they are conciously), and this is the physical part of attraction. But I am also attracted to certain personality traits, and these are emotional. I fall in love with people of the oppisite sex who have the physical and emotnioal traits. They kinda go hand in hand. If you see someone, you make assumptions about their personality, and vice-a-versa.

It's complicated. If you said if a girl/guy was perfect for you, would you be happy with it? Perfection isn't all that fun...

It's complicated. If you said if a girl/guy was perfect for you, would you be happy with it? Perfection isn't all that fun...

Perfection is flawlessness. And no fun is a flaw, so it's no longer perfect. :mellow:

I don't think anyone has a problem of defining love, it's the will to show/have adoration and caring for someone. Now, this "true love" that everyone is looking so much for, in my perspective, is merely a point at which there are no longer any boundaries restricting you from showing love. These boundaries can include how intimidated you are of the person you want to show love (do you fear that they might not give you any back) , the distance (this can sometimes play a dire role for some people), status quo, and attraction. It's not to say that all these boundaries play a part for everyone, each persons intensities of each boundary depends on themselves.

More loving*coughsimple* way to put it
Love is like a river, that's flowed to everyone that you know. How much love each person receives is paused by certain damns you have in your river (boundaries). The less damns you have the closer you are to what's considered "true love".

Which is better to have emotional or physical love?
Kind of depends on the person, I'm sure there are peoplewho need to be attracted physically to show love, as I'm sure there are people who need to feel physically attractive to show love.

If the minds cannot bond, the bodies don't either. No matter how hot the body is.

Love is far too broad a term to accuratly define. It can be sadness, happyness, meloncholy, even the lack of these things.

Love could hurt one another.

have yet to find love...apparently my friend has found...his 5th lover -____-
atm don't believe love exists and have yet to have something prove me wrong

Love exists like pie exists. (Seriously) If you didn't think there was no such thing as pie, it would still be there, but under a different name.

I was thinking (IDK why I keep doing that), when you see a movie/talk to people/read stuff it generaly says there is only one true love, most people also beleive high school to be a place where one experiences new emotions yet never really falls in love. Arguing that what they thought (at the time) was love turned out to be just strong feelings.

So I was thinking isnt our ability to be in love measured by how easily we are satisfied or if we settle for something?

X = a feeling towards someone.
Y= love

If little jhonny feels X about mary and THINKS its love does he feel Y?
to him is X = Y? Is the Y he feels as good as someone elses?

However Timmy feels X for mary and wonders if theres something better (he ponders the idea of Y and considers his relation ship just X and continues to look for Y) If Timmy spends his life that way to him Y would exist but it would be unnatainable.

SO our ability to be in love is only limited by how willing we are to settle for X.

Im confusing myself.

it makes sense to me

ummm..... let's see

Most people say that they're in love with someone just because of their outer beauty. Some love other people for their inner beauty or both. But in this world, it's quite rare. Not really, but kind of. Kids (that means pre-teen people) get a bf/gf and they say "I love you" to each other, even though they only like that person for their outside beauty. They tend to break up after a while, then move on. Teenagers are pretty much the same.

To me, friendship is the strongest type of love there is. We try to find romantic love too much, that we usually end up getting hurt. With TRUE friendship, you can't get hurt if you see your friend making out with someone or something like that and you can't get hurt if your friend is trying to make new friends or anything. But if your bf/gf is out making friends of your same gender, then you tend to get jealous, get hurt, then break up with them. It really hurts and even though you move on, the wound is still there. In friendship, you can't get a wound like that. You still can get a wound, if one betrays the other, which is like your bf/gf cheating on you, and that wound can be deeper. It'll be hard to trust again. When you get heartbroken from your gf/bf, it takes a while to trust again but you still do trust them. When you get heartbroken from a broken friendship, it takes an even longer time to restore your trust. (Seriously, I don't get what I'm saying no more.)

Okay, for a 12 year old I talk too much. I'ma stop there.

mhm like my friends...i truly love...not love as in i'd like to have a romantic relationship love but love as in love i am very close to them...we're a tight knit group and anything they need...i do wahtever i can to help
as for the love as in i go (for lack of a better term since it's 2 in the morning and i'm half-asleep) 'GAAGAAH" over girls...no i haven't had that yet

it makes sense to me

ummm..... let's see

Most people say that they're in love with someone just because of their outer beauty. Some love other people for their inner beauty or both. But in this world, it's quite rare. Not really, but kind of. Kids (that means pre-teen people) get a bf/gf and they say "I love you" to each other, even though they only like that person for their outside beauty. They tend to break up after a while, then move on. Teenagers are pretty much the same.

To me, friendship is the strongest type of love there is. We try to find romantic love too much, that we usually end up getting hurt. With TRUE friendship, you can't get hurt if you see your friend making out with someone or something like that and you can't get hurt if your friend is trying to make new friends or anything. But if your bf/gf is out making friends of your same gender, then you tend to get jealous, get hurt, then break up with them. It really hurts and even though you move on, the wound is still there. In friendship, you can't get a wound like that. You still can get a wound, if one betrays the other, which is like your bf/gf cheating on you, and that wound can be deeper. It'll be hard to trust again. When you get heartbroken from your gf/bf, it takes a while to trust again but you still do trust them. When you get heartbroken from a broken friendship, it takes an even longer time to restore your trust. (Seriously, I don't get what I'm saying no more.)

Okay, for a 12 year old I talk too much. I'ma stop there.

:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

Pre-teen relationships WTF...im 15 and single :\

Ive said I love you a couple times..I think it realy depends, I go back to my previous post, if I (for example) tell you I love you, I could mean it in many diferent ways (be it friendship, close friendship, brother like, or relationship love..even in each of these categories there would be certain degrees of love and possibilities) So if you and I were dating, it wouldnt be the fact I said I love you (dont get me wrong I dont think the term should be thrown around lightly only that sometimes its meant that way) it would just be the meaning I put behind it and/or how you interpret it.

There are such things as pre-teen relationships. I'm barely 12 turning 13 next year and most of my friends have a boyfriend/girlfriend already, some are even on to their 2nd or 3rd.

that's just weird... I mean you can't call it relationship without some amount of knowledge regarding sacrifice and committment right? It's a lot more... word based? when you're younger? Idk... relationships seem so hard to keep alive. Initially as a friend you talk, but afterwards you also have to put the effort in to show you love them and that's hard.
This topic isn't really about dating though it's about love. Two completely different things.
I believe in emotional love, but I'm skeptical. I'm also distant to most people... I'm glad I can open up here on ichigos.
and part of the widely accepted view homosexuality is that it's about "sexual" preference. Emotions play no part in deciding that.

yea. i wudnt rly call it relationships but what the heck. thats wat they call it. and they dont evn commit 2 anything or anything like that at all.

Current view of love: When you are ready to love, you should also be ready to be heartbroken......

It's in my sig and it's true.

That is one of the oldest sayings as I remember. :heh:

I think for love to blossem and mature, you have to spend some time (and I mean time as in *years* not months) with the person you love.

There are phermones responsible for the chemicals that trigger attraction (and not just physical attraction, attraction as in you're happy to be near that person, you're happy when that person's happy, etc), and as you spend time with your lover, those phermones strengthen between the two of you. There are unique compounsd that are developed in your body so that your chemical system *knows* the phermones of your lover. However, its been scientifically proven that these pheromones stop being emitted in 15-30 years. Dont quote me on that though, it was in a Nature article that I read in passing several months ago, so I'm not so sure of the specifics.

But this also implies that there are reasons beyond just chemicals for love. Couples who truely love each other will stay together long after the phermones wear out.

Basically, I believe in love, but no "love on first sight" or even "love in a couple of months". Its too soon to tell with that sort of short term relationship.

Basically, I believe in love, but no "love on first sight" or even "love in a couple of months". Its too soon to tell with that sort of short term relationship.
I don't believe in love at first sight (or in a couple of months) either. Plus, even if I did, then that means they love you for your looks.

i dont believe in love anymore... now ppl just want each other for their own benifits more and more are thinking more about themself and being selfish.

if not love just brings pain. when you dont have it you yearn to know what it feels like. when you have it, it pains you when theyre not around wnd when you lose it well.. it just hurts you...

i want to feel this hurt ;__;

Lol, I just love it when people say "Love is Fake" and give excuses.

Those people are so immature, in my opinion.

Oh, it's not that we don't believe it exists, we just ignore it. That one single emotion has the power to change any and everyone, to the points where it's almost sickening. While it comes with sacrifice, if you remove love, everything falls logically in place without any unforeseen abnormalities, emotion-wise.

Now, don't get me wrong, those that don't love still respect and honor others, but I never go above that level.

... my love just ended :cry:

@Mazeppa: I think you're wrong here. People aren't supposedly immature just because they don't believe in love. It totally depends on their life situation and... luck, I'd say.

@Jaso: So rewind the hentai

@hope: You don't believe in love and say that it hurts, yet you *want* to have that feeling? Are you a massochist (sp?) or is there something else that didn't come across with your post... I'd like to know :)

Some people say that having a boy/girlfriend when you're young (16-) is stupid and pointless. It's true that it's very unlikely to find a life partner at that age, or love for that matter, but I fail to see any negative impact at all for having relationships at that age. You gain understanding, social skill and eventually respect for other people.

Personally I'm very, very torn on the subject 'love'. One side of me enjoys life's mysterious-ness about certain things. Love, the moon, death, ghosts... all are examples of 'mysterious and unknown' things which have all already been explained by scientists to a certain degree. They say love is a mere mechanism 'programmed' into our brains to keep us motivated to live. (The same would go for, erm, dare I say RELIGION?). So while I keep thinking to myself that love is ethereal and true, my other side always battles me into remembering the most logical reason why we feel 'love'.

<_< That hurt, Noir. <_<

@Mazeppa: I think you're wrong here. People aren't supposedly immature just because they don't believe in love. It totally depends on their life situation and... luck, I'd say.

@Jaso: So rewind the hentai

@hope: You don't believe in love and say that it hurts, yet you *want* to have that feeling? Are you a massochist (sp?) or is there something else that didn't come across with your post... I'd like to know :)

Some people say that having a boy/girlfriend when you're young (16-) is stupid and pointless. It's true that it's very unlikely to find a life partner at that age, or love for that matter, but I fail to see any negative impact at all for having relationships at that age. You gain understanding, social skill and eventually respect for other people.

Personally I'm very, very torn on the subject 'love'. One side of me enjoys life's mysterious-ness about certain things. Love, the moon, death, ghosts... all are examples of 'mysterious and unknown' things which have all already been explained by scientists to a certain degree. They say love is a mere mechanism 'programmed' into our brains to keep us motivated to live. (The same would go for, erm, dare I say RELIGION?). So while I keep thinking to myself that love is ethereal and true, my other side always battles me into remembering the most logical reason why we feel 'love'.
It is pretty stupid, but not really pointless. It's stupid 'cause at that age, it's kinda hard to tell if you actually really love a person or if it's just infatuation. And I know at least 3 people that's gone through a lot of infatuations. And eventually, hurt other people's feelings. Well, okay, I have to admit that it's still hard at like 17 or 18, but they should really just wait and get to know the other person first and be friends.

Does everything have to have a logical explanation? Because there are some things that are really hard to explain, if not learn about.


New motto in love: There are tons of things in life that can be learned, but there are some hearts that just can't be taught.

It's not stupid. Its easy to tell if its love or infaturation. Just ask yourself why you're attracted to the person. If its only the looks, money, etc. then you don't love him/her. But if its because you love his/her personality, not just looks, and simply being with him/her makes you feel joy in your heart then its love.

It's stupid. Why not just wait until you're old enough then get into a relationship? Uhhhh... yeah, but I know alot of people that don't know why they like that person.

Because the intense feeling of love inside of you don't way:

"meh, don't like her I'm not 18 yet..."

Okay. Now that just sounds plain dumb. I'm not saying that you can't like anyone 'til you're 18 or anything. Just saying that they should wait 'til they're at least in high school (should be at least 14 then) to get into a relationship. And what does "don't way" mean? Cuz that's what you put, and I don't get it.

But the intense feeling of love inside of you don't say:

"meh, don't like her I'm not 13 yet..."

It's stupid. Why not just wait until you're old enough then get into a relationship? Uhhhh... yeah, but I know alot of people that don't know why they like that person.

hmmm let me turn that around why should you wait until you're older for a relationship?

and to answer your question love is wonderful and exciting thing to expirance. Theres nothing wrong with being in an relationship where both partners love each other. No matter what the age is. It's extremely comforting to know you have someone who will be there to comfort and cheer you up when you're down, or someone you can share all your feelings with knowing they won't hold it against you. Or just simply someone to hold in your arms~ :)

hmmm let me turn that around why should you wait until you're older for a relationship?

and to answer your question love is wonderful and exciting thing to expirance. Theres nothing wrong with being in an relationship where both partners love each other. No matter what the age is. It's extremely comforting to know you have someone who will be there to comfort and cheer you up when you're down, or someone you can share all your feelings with knowing they won't hold it against you. Or just simply someone to hold in your arms~ :)
What do you mean by the first question again?? Did you mean "why should" or "why would"?

Well, yeah, if that actually happened to people at around my age. And I don't really think that that's ever happened before (to those people around my age I mean). Some might have been close but one time or another, one of them messes up the whole relationship or something.

I'm just trying to prove the fact: being in an relationship before you turn 18 is not stupid ;)

That's not what I said. I said being in a relationship before the year (or at least that's what I meant) you turn "14" is stupid.

I don't think you have to wait until your 18 or 21 or 66 to get into a relationship, serious or frivolous; love is love, but on the other hand it is silly for those who go out when they are only 11 and not even old enough to stand seeing a picture of a penis in class without either laughing or ewwing. I think people need to mature into a relationships and find what love is to them, because for many pre-teens and fewer, but still many, teens, love and relationship is for pleasure or popularity, and that can ruin a perfectly good friendship.

well a relationship at any age isn't stupid as long as you understand the "meaning" of relationship, and are mature about it

Exactly. Most of these people don't. That's why it's stupid. They never commit or anything. And seriously, coming from the other sid of the world, I don't really get the people here. I mean, the guy asks the girl out, and if she says yes, then supposibly, they're already couples.

well a relationship at any age isn't stupid as long as you understand the "meaning" of relationship, and are mature about it

I beg to differ. No matter how mature someone may seem through academic credentials, people skills or what ever, there is that golden age where the string snaps and life isn't all laa laa pink fuzzy fun and you find out the world is only out to get you, make good close friends and fight fight fight.

In that year you should also learn that love is more important that that non-sexual one night stand that was full of "what did you say to my girl?"'s, Holding hands, kissing and passing notes no matter how much teacher says no.

Maturity comes with experience. By experience I mean living through the real world, the one where mommy and daddy isn't always there for you, where food isn't always made on time or even ever, where you find out that a lot of the times fending for yourself is the only way.

You make a ton more sense. And everything you said is very true.

It's not that RD makes more sense than Leo heart, its just that he is saying what you want to hear and you barely think about what Leonheart said, which is immature in itself.

Just because some people at your school are a little too inmature doesn't mean everyone is. The guys as my school (so far) are way too fast. So I don't go out with them. See how though several people are fast and dumn about relationships, not everyone is? Everyone matures at a different age.

The way I look at it, every relationship that isn't "the one" is to prepare you for "the one" or life.

I've loved friends, and I've love my crushes, but only because they were friends prior to that so I love them as a friend but I also have a little more for them. I don't use I love you lightly, but I do use it a lot. It's ussually one person though...*end ramble*

I beg to differ. No matter how mature someone may seem through academic credentials, people skills or what ever, there is that golden age where the string snaps and life isn't all laa laa pink fuzzy fun and you find out the world is only out to get you, make good close friends and fight fight fight.

In that year you should also learn that love is more important that that non-sexual one night stand that was full of "what did you say to my girl?"'s, Holding hands, kissing and passing notes no matter how much teacher says no.

Maturity comes with experience. By experience I mean living through the real world, the one where mommy and daddy isn't always there for you, where food isn't always made on time or even ever, where you find out that a lot of the times fending for yourself is the only way.

I was just pointing out the fact a relationship isn't "stupid", and the maturity i meant is more like: seeing any sort of affection (i.e. kissing hugs) and not going ewwww. or seeing another guy/girl talking to your girl/boy friend and not going: zomg you're cheating on me *slaps*. Or being in an relationship because not becuase you want something from that guy/girl (i.e. sex, money, etc.)

Oohhhhh that maturity. Well then, I guess those that I know are pretty mature (only that kind, though. Otherwise, they're childish).

@ Jaso: Nah. I said that because I don't understand some of the stuff leon is saying.

Haha. I laughed at that.

Sowwy.

OMG POSSESSIVE PARTNERS.

I don't know the right people.

POSSESSIVE PARTNERS.

I don't know the right people.



that's tough, usually the "true" colors of a person reveals after a certain period of time.. hahaha

Yep. Very true. That's why I know a lot of people that went out for like 7 or 8 years or longer before they got married.

you cant be sure of your true feelings until your sure you know the person completely

i think homosexuals should be allowed to get married, since there are plenty of heterosexual marriages that are based on physical attraction, so why cant there be homosexual marriage based on both emotional and physical love since both are necessary for a successful relationship
(at least in my opinion)

Think of this - if homosexuality is generally accepted, then why is being called 'gay' an insult? And why are most gay people so afraid to come out of the closet?

And I wouldnt know, but I find it hard to believe that any gay couple can truly be attracted emotionally, the way heterosexual couples are. Humans aren't wired for that.

Sorry for the tangent.

Gay people - I dunno. Probably because they don't want their family to hate them or something.

Gay being an insult - Well actually, people don't care much if people say that they're gay. They know they're not so they don't care.

Gay couples - Yes. They can be attracted emotionally, okay? My parents had gay friends that were really actually attracted emotionally.

Am I the only one to whom that's slightly disturbing?

Anyway, back to the topic of this thread...

People should stop using "gay" as an insult. They're twisting the meaning and trying to associate the state of being gay as a bad thing.

Or not...

I never said I condone that, but the fact remains. Evidently some people think that.

its the same thing with black people calling eachother niger. the word just isnt meantfor what it is being used for. gay=insult is not right and niger=term of adress is not right

I guess you could say that. But people are gay by choice, not the case with black people.

Black people are cool. They can call each other whatever they like as long as they don't mind. And in this case they use it as a "term of endearment", so to speak, rather than an insult.
And stop using the N-bomb. It makes me nervous, even when you are censoring it.

Black people are cool. They can call each other whatever they like as long as they don't mind.

Well, why can't that be the same for gay people? o.O

Don't answer that.

I'll answer it anyways.
Probably because they're sensitive or something.

Sensitive about what, hmm? O_O

How am I supposed to know? I'm not gay. It's like if you're just a little chubby and everyone says you're a freakin' whale.

I was kidding. But that makes sense.

Back to love, people.

Back to love, people.

Yeah, allow me.

Since I'm actually starting to become a more mature person--not only my actions but my views and takes of life--I'm starting to think that Love is really an adult thing, not anything for like Freshman in High School. It only seems that "Love" can occur when you're mature and knowing what's up, not just saying I love because you think about them all the time. Love isn't JUST emotional, although so much of it is, it's also KNOWING, and you can only say "you've known" if you more of an adult, can't ya? :bleh:

Being an adult? Not really. Being experienced in love? Pretty much yes.

Finally, someone's speaking some sense.

Who?

I'm starting to think that Love is really an adult thing, not anything for like Freshman in High School.

I beg to differ. My best friend is in love, and it's as real as my parent's love.

How old is your friend? How are you sure it's love? You can't always be sure if it is or not.

If that's the case, how can I be sure my parents are in love?

Well, I dunno. I dunno your parents so how am I supposed to know. How are your parents like? But yeah, when you're young, it's harder to tell if it is love or not. What d'you know? Maybe it'll turn out to be infatuation.

Well, that's true, but it also makes true love more dubious and difficult to identify.

Well duh. Of course it does. What do you expect?

So then, how can *you* be sure it's NOT love, if you don't know the guy?

What? That doesn't make any sense. If I don't know the guy, then how can I be in love with him? Real simple man.

Here. I got this from another forum.

"Real love is when you love someone without asking anything in return. It's when even a passing smile can make your day. A small tap on your back can make you feel alove and the mere sound of his voice can move you to break out into a song inside. Real love isn't fate nor is it written in the stars. You yourself have to make love happen. It's a choice. A commitment. You take the risk of facing whatever pain that would come your way because you believe he's worth everything...."

Yeah, I can see myself agreeing (sp?) with some of that right there.

EDIT - @That Question in the last few posts - Those are called CRUSHES people. Like, "Hmm.. I don't know her, but she's cute!" If anyone calls that love, then wow. I laugh at you. Hehe!

I know. That's like, whooaaa. If you don't know the difference between crushes and love, then you must not know what's left and right.

it is what some of the more oblivious people call love because they dont know the difference yet

What? That doesn't make any sense. If I don't know the guy, then how can I be in love with him? Real simple man.

I wasn't talking about YOU being in love with him, I was referring to the girl he's in love with. Whom he does know, by the way.

"Real love is when you love someone without asking anything in return. It's when even a passing smile can make your day. A small tap on your back can make you feel alove and the mere sound of his voice can move you to break out into a song inside. Real love isn't fate nor is it written in the stars. You yourself have to make love happen. It's a choice. A commitment. You take the risk of facing whatever pain that would come your way because you believe he's worth everything...."

In all seriousness, if that's all love is, then I'm in love like no other. And so is my friend.

I wasn't talking about YOU being in love with him, I was referring to the girl he's in love with. Whom he does know, by the way.
What? That doesn't make any sense right there.

@ ur other post: oh ok.

Never mind, that was never going anywhere except an argument.

"Real love is when you love someone without asking anything in return. It's when even a passing smile can make your day. A small tap on your back can make you feel alove and the mere sound of his voice can move you to break out into a song inside. Real love isn't fate nor is it written in the stars. You yourself have to make love happen. It's a choice. A commitment. You take the risk of facing whatever pain that would come your way because you believe he's worth everything...."

That's not love. That's infatuation - what little kids mistake to be love. You know, the kind of thing highschool girls rant about in their AIM profiles. It usually only lasts about a year. To be truly in love with someone doesn't mean that you get the butterflies whenever that person looks at you. From what I know, love is nothing more than extremely deep friendship. :3

Or maybe love is a mix of the two - deep friendship and what you call 'infatuation', which by the way literally means "A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction" - sounds more like stalker love to me.

That's not love. That's infatuation - what little kids mistake to be love. You know, the kind of thing highschool girls rant about in their AIM profiles. It usually only lasts about a year. To be truly in love with someone doesn't mean that you get the butterflies whenever that person looks at you. From what I know, love is nothing more than extremely deep friendship. :3

Hey, I just got that from a forum. i never wrote that. I wouldv'e written down something different. No, I don't know that kind of thing that high school girls rant about in their AIM profiles. Seriously, I don't know anyone who was in love and said that it was love just cuz that she/he got the butterflies when that certain someone looked at them. Actually, it would be weird if that was love. Extremely deep friendship? Oh please, that could happen between two best friends and not be in love.


Or maybe love is a mix of the two - deep friendship and what you call 'infatuation', which by the way literally means "A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction" - sounds more like stalker love to me.
I used to think that. Actually, I still kinda do.

Which bit?

Ummmmm all of it. It all goes into the same topic.

Never mind. And I agree with what you said before I did (if that makes sense O_O) - butterflies are a pretty good sign of infatuation.

As I see it now, I'm kinda just letting myself "try not to fall in love" or get into any relationship by 'trying.'

Like I am starting to get into, I'm getting the attitude of "What ever happens, happens." If I somehow get a girlfriend in the future, and feel some love (or whatever) I'll just let it happen, not trying to make it something, ya know?

Same here. Well, not the same. I'm actually trying to avoid the whole love thing. That includes getting into relationships. I doubt if that would even happen, considering I'm barely going to turn 13.

Same here :lol: . I'm turning 15 (March), and I already know it's not worth it when you're still young. (Peer Pressure).


I'm actually trying to avoid the whole love thing. That includes getting into relationships.

Yup. Sooo not worth it. I prefer the real thing. Not those relationships where a guy just asks you out w/o even knowing you or anything.

Not those relationships where a guy just asks you out w/o even knowing you or anything.

Over here, where I live, everyone wonders why I don't believe in doing that stuff. :P But then again, everyone's different.

Extremely deep friendship? Oh please, that could happen between two best friends and not be in love.

Actually, yes. That's what would be called "Plutonic love." Don't worry, you'll learn about that some day. ;P

*Platonic love.
More to do with the Greek philosopher Plato's theories and nothing to do with the Roman God of the underworld.

Oops!
<----- Owned and shut'd up. :heh:

.....
*leaves with slightly better spelling*
XD

Over here, where I live, everyone wonders why I don't believe in doing that stuff. :P But then again, everyone's different.
Guys who do that, you can pretty much tell right away that they're the kinds that just play w/the girls but dont really feel anything for them. Another word for it: jerk. At least that's what I've always called them. Either that or playboys.

@HopelessComposer and Methodx: What's Platonic Love?

Guys who do that, you can pretty much tell right away that they're the kinds that just play w/the girls but dont really feel anything for them. Another word for it: jerk. At least that's what I've always called them. Either that or playboys.

They're not jerks or playboys. They're just guys who feel like having fun, who find girls who also want to have fun. Haha.

And platonic love is just love between friends.

Yeah sure. Some. I still think of them as jerks etc etc etc 'cause they just end up dumping the girl etc etc etc.

its like friend love or like love love? me @.@

It's like love. As in "I may not want to have sex with you, but I still have your back no matter what."

lol X3

that's friend love
all friends are supposed to be like that

Haha, so you'd die for any of your friends? That seems like a kind of dangerous way to live! XD

Umm dude. That's what friends are for. Like duh. We're always supposed to have each other's backs. No matter what.

I somehow doubt you'd feel the same way if someone pointed a gun at the friend you had made last week. XD

thats why I keep the term friend for a select few...friends are alot harder to come by than buddies and/or acquaintances.

Mm, same here actually. I have 5 "friends," and a thousand "acquaintances."
XP

i think i have more along the lines of: 2 true friends but i have 50,000 friends and 80,000 acquaintances

I somehow doubt you'd feel the same way if someone pointed a gun at the friend you had made last week. XD
Well, it actually really depends. If that person turns out to be one of my true friends then yea I guess I would risk my life for that person. But like, you know, if they're like the people that doesn't really care or anything, then shit, let them die. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: j/k. That's a bit too mean. I still might risk my life for that person whether or not s/he's my true friend, because like yeah, if I was there to witness how s/he was killed, then yeah, even if it was no fault of mine, I would still hate myself forever for not being able to do something about it.

Well, it actually really depends. If that person turns out to be one of my true friends then yea I guess I would risk my life for that person. But like, you know, if they're like the people that doesn't really care or anything, then shit, let them die. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: j/k. That's a bit too mean. I still might risk my life for that person whether or not s/he's my true friend, because like yeah, if I was there to witness how s/he was killed, then yeah, even if it was no fault of mine, I would still hate myself forever for not being able to do something about it.

Of course, if you see a random person in danger and you can help them, by all means do it. But this platonic stuff means that you actively watch out for them, and would willingly trade your life for theirs.

I feel that for everyone I know, even those I kind of hate.

I love the feel of a storm just before it hits, the feeling of diving into a fresh stream and letting the water take you away. I love the way the sun sparkles through your hair and the way your hair falls around your shoulders... but as all things in life my love for you just wasn't enough. Even though your gone i will always love one thing... the hope that you brought to my life



Forgive me

I feel that for everyone I know, even those I kind of hate.

You actively watch out for people you hate? =/

Yes. Not really, but kinda yes. I have no idea why, but I do so anyways.

That's a good attitude to have, but it would seem to me that that would be something you trained yourself to do - I could never do that at the drop of a hat...

I never trained myself. I dunno. I'm just... like that. I mean, even if I dislike people, I don't actually hate them. I've never hated anyone and I'm pretty sure I never will.

True, hate is a strong word, and I don't think I could really hate anyone in every sense of the word either, but putting yourself in harm's way for almost anyone... I admire that.

Yes. Hate is a strong word.

The only person I truly hate is someone who everyone else loves.
Everyone looks at him and thinks his stupidity is witty and cute. And the love him.
But I see through his stupidity and see the pathetic insecure spineless brat that it hides. And I am repulsed by him.
Because he reminds me of me.
But I do not hate me. That makes me a hypocrite too.

You don't seem like a pathetic insecure spineless brat to me.

Aren't hypocrites people who pretend about something? So how does that make you a hypocrite? And I totally agree with Panta-chan.

I just barely noticed, we're waaay off topic.

Kinda, hate is related to love in a sense that they're complete opposites. :think:

And in case anyone was wondering, my name is completely unrelated to p-chan.

Oh. Right.

I know that man. I'm so into Japanese stuff these days that sometime I kinda start calling people like that.

Why do people say that being in love is actually a good thing?

Because if it's a two way street, it is. That's the problem - it's not usually.

Yeah. That's so true. When you're still with that person, I guess that's good. But yeah, when you're not with them or anything or like you guys broke up, then that's the sad part about it.

Exactly. Love itself is a very good thing - the pain that comes with misused love is not.

Yep. Pretty much, as of now, I hate love because I am in love (it's either first love or a totally major huge crush, I have no idea which. thats another thing i hate about love. at first ur not sure whether or not it IS love).

No, you can't. And that makes it even harder when it hits you in the face like it has you. And me.

I can't what?

Tell whether it's love at first or not.

Of course. Why else would I be confused whether or not it's love or a crush? And I've felt like this for him ever since like half of the last school year or something and I'm still not sure whether or not it's crush or love.

This is wierd... I'm in the same romantic situation as like four girls here, only... reversed.

That's exactly what's going on with me.

Please explain. I didn't get a single thing you said *exaggerating but you get my point*.

Of course. Why else would I be confused whether or not it's love or a crush? And I've felt like this for him ever since like half of the last school year or something and I'm still not sure whether or not it's crush or love.

I kid you not, I have that same exact problem.

And you're not the only person I've said that to. That's the wierd part.

Whoooaaaa. That IS weird. But, eh, I'm just gonna write him my feelings, etc. I just want to get this over with.

Just a little.

I think the best road would be to follow the road you're on and see where it goes, and if it turns out not to be love, that'll be one huge step towards identifying the real deal.

Easier said than done, I know.

Yep. I'm chicken when it comes to these kinda stuff.

So we're pretty much mirrors of each other... :eek:

Yeeeppp.

Wierd as this is, I'll have to continue tomorrow. Yay for no school.

Come on now, love is just really strong "like." There's no quantum leap between really really liking someone and loving them. Also, the "loving" feeling most people feel with another person is a direct response to chemicals the body releases to get a couple to er, mate with one another. These usually wear off in about a year and a half, and then you fall in "love" with someone else.

No offense Deadly Love, but you're twelve. You won't love this boy the same way you'll love a boy when you're twenty. So if you're looking for "true love," this isn't it. :heh:
Of course, you should go for it anyway; it won't hurt anything. What else is life for besides making friends? :3

Ummmmm I never said he was my TRUE love. I said FIRST. And he did say that I MIGHT have a chance with im (ew, gross. i just wanted to tell him, nothing else). Ummmmm.... having fun is also part of life, I guess.

yes it is important to have fun.....love is more of actual attraction to everything about the person not just physical.....at least from what i know

total agreement here
i mean if u just love a person cuz of their looks then u dont love them at all
if a person says they fell in love with you at first sight, then they must have loved you for your looks

What makes personality more important than looks? O:

-.- Do I really have to explain that to you? -.- I'm sure that it's so freakin' obvious why personality is much more important than looks.

It's not. That's why I asked. How will liking someone for their personality make you happier than liking someone just as much for their looks? XD
I've honestly never understood the phrase "It's what's on the inside that counts." Who says? And have they seen some of the people I've met? Kekekekeke.

And that last question was meant as a joke...kind of. XD

Being both is pretty much the best that you can get, but yeah personality is much more important than looks. Because you get tired of looks after a while but you can never possibly get tired of a person's personality. I mean would you rather marry a beautiful but snobby, bitchy, conceited, etc girl who probably doesn't even have real feelings for you or a girl that loves you for who you are and is nice, compassionate, etc? Dude, seriously, if you choose the beautiful gir, then man, I have no idea what kind of a person you are. You'd be one of them weirdos.

Because you get tired of looks after a while but you can never possibly get tired of a person's personality.
What? Who says? I get bored with talking to girls all the time. They're all: "omg like, talk talk talk. dribble dribble rabble rabble!" And I'm all "Haha, you're lucky you're pretty, or I wouldn't be bothering with you right now." And then they laugh because they think I'm just a cute guy joking around. BUT I'M NOT. I'M JUST AN ASSHOLE! lol. XD

I mean would you rather marry a beautiful but snobby, bitchy, conceited, etc girl who probably doesn't even have real feelings for you or a girl that loves you for who you are and is nice, compassionate, etc?

I'd take the snobby one over the nice, yet extremely ugly hag-lady any day. First of all, you can change people's personalities. You can change people's looks too, but that costs money. Heheh. Secondly, like I just said, people's personalities change. What if the ugly nice girl became a bitch anyway? Last of all, I'd rather have a pretty, bitchy wife than an ugly, nice wife anyway. Ugly people depress me. Especially nice ones. What a waste! :(

Sooooo yah. You say you can get tired of a person's looks after awhile but not of their personality. I say that is very, very false. Ah well I guess. Maybe it's because I'm a guy? :heh:

Yes. It's because you're a guy. And one that goes for looks too. :lol: Just kidding. But I never did say that the nice girl was ugly. I meant to say that she just had average looks. Well, yeah I guess you could change people's personalities, but you won't be able to change everything about them, you know.

Hold on. You'd go for a person that doesn't really love you but not for a person that DOES love you? Dude, you are one confusing weirdo.

You'd go for a person that doesn't really love you but not for a person that DOES love you? Dude, you are one confusing weirdo.

Why should they have to love me? O:
As long as I loved someone, being around them would make me happy. I don't need the person I love to love me back - my ego is huge; it can support itself. ;)


But I never did say that the nice girl was ugly. I meant to say that she just had average looks.

Well, we're weighing looks against personality here. It's not really fair if you say "Would you rather marry a hot girl who's nice? Or a hot girl who's mean?" For the sake of argument, we kind of need to pretend that more hottness = less prettiness, otherwise things get kind of uneven. And since you mentioned that the hot girl had pretty much the worst personality ever, the nice girl needs to be like the ugliest girl ever. Haha XD

Dude I'm just saying. And lately, I've never really been a fair person....... considering what happened today when I told my crush I like him. Well anyways, back to our "argument/debate". But but but but doesnt hotness pretty much also mean that the girl is pretty? You're confusing me, Hopeless (and yes you are hopless, lol j/k). Well, pretty much people look average. It's a small percentage of people that are below average when considered on looks.

Dude I'm just saying.
Huh? Don't worry, I'm not taking anything you say personally. You haven't said anything offensive anyway. :heh:

And lately, I've never really been a fair person....... considering what happened today when I told my crush I like him.
Ah, that sucks. I'd ask what happened, but I can probably guess. Sorry to hear that!


But but but but doesnt hotness pretty much also mean that the girl is pretty?
No no. The nice girl is ugly. The mean girl is pretty. Otherwise we have nothing to argue about, haha.


It's a small percentage of people that are below average when considered on looks.
No, it's actually 49.9999999999(ad infinitum)% of people who are below average looking. That's why it's called an average. :heh:
The same percentage of girls have below average personalities, haha. XD

And yes. I am hopeless. I didn't pick this name for nothing you know. ;)

How many friends do you have, out of curiosity?

^Hundreds. ;)
Actually, I guess that depends on what you meant by "friends." Hundreds of people like me and think I like them back, but I really can't stand them. I'd say about 50 people think I'm one of the most awesome people ever. I can stand hanging around with them, even if it is just to have my ego stroked. Then I have like five real friends who I actually find worth my time; we can carry happily carry conversations all day long together and we're all extremely tight knit; I'd be surprised if I ever found myself in danger and one of my top five friends wasn't there to help me out. And two of the real friends are girls. I don't hate women as much as my last few posts have suggested. I look at the average male and female with equal amounts of amiability. ;P

Why, how many friends do you have? XD

Ummmm dude, doesn't that pretty much mean that you only HAVE 5 friends? And I never said that I said anything offensive. Well, you guessed wrong, cuz I'm getting this really weird feeling that he does like me (which, btw, is just plain gross). Dude, 50% isn't always the average you know. Example, the average of the class test scores, and wouldn't that mean that the highest IQ you can get is 150, considering that the average is around 70 or 75 (it was somewhere around there). And dude, how would you know the percentage of the girls who have below average personalitites? Probably in a certain country, but not in the whole world. I didn't actually mean that you were a hopeless composer. Just hopeless.

Aaaaaaaaah. XD

Ummmm dude, doesn't that pretty much mean that you only HAVE 5 friends?
Yeah, by my definition. Haha. ;)

And I never said that I said anything offensive.
...Neither did I....

Well, you guessed wrong, cuz I'm getting this really weird feeling that he does like me (which, btw, is just plain gross).
How is it gross that someone you like likes you back? That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. And how the heck do you know I guessed wrong? I didn't even say what I guessed! XD

Dude, 50% isn't always the average you know. Example, the average of the class test scores, and wouldn't that mean that the highest IQ you can get is 150, considering that the average is around 70 or 75 (it was somewhere around there).
lol, I can't even be bothered to answer this. You'll learn what I mean in a few years. > <
Also, the average IQ score is 90-110, or something around there I think.

And dude, how would you know the percentage of the girls who have below average personalitites?
Sigh. Because by the definition of the word AVERAGE they DO. XP

I didn't actually mean that you were a hopeless composer. Just hopeless.
Yes, that was very clever, and I got it the first time. :heh:

Dude. I'm barely turning 13. Plus, generally, I hate guys. So yeah, it's gross. I know it is. Because you said, "Sorry to hear that!".

I doubt that I will get what you mean, considering that I would've forgotten by then. Haha.

Oh. I didn't know that you got that the first time.

Dude. I'm barely turning 13. Plus, generally, I hate guys.
But you like this one, so I don't see how him liking you back is gross. Oh well, I'm not 12 anymore I guess. Though I remember totally loving someone at that age. :heh:

I doubt that I will get what you mean, considering that I would've forgotten by then. Haha.
Haha, good point good point. You'll still get what I mean though, even if you forget that I mentioned it, heheh. XD

Oh. I didn't know that you got that the first time.
lol, no problem ^_^

So what if I like him? That doens't change anything else 'sides the fact that I like him.

That's true I guess. ^_^

So what if I like him? That doens't change anything else 'sides the fact that I like him.

Now you're confusing me. It's alright for you to like him, but not for him to like you back?

@Hopeless: I'll bet money one or all of those five are trying to get your priorities straight.

@Hopeless: I'll bet money one or all of those five are trying to get your priorities straight.

Do you even know what my priorities are? And if you think you do, could you explain to me why they're "bent?" XD

Now you're confusing me. It's alright for you to like him, but not for him to like you back?
Yep. That's exactly what I mean. :heh: Well, actually, I guess it's okay if he likes me as long as it just stays like that....... and I never find out (which is not what's happening). Hehe.

Do you even know what my priorities are? And if you think you do, could you explain to me why they're "bent?" XD

You pretty much laid them out for me on the previous page. And yes, they're bent. Unless you're kidding, which I don't get the vibe that you are.


Yep. That's exactly what I mean. :heh: Well, actually, I guess it's okay if he likes me as long as it just stays like that....... and I never find out (which is not what's happening). Hehe.

*sigh* I guess you really are a hypocrite... lol

Aren't hypocrites people who pretend about something (I looked it up. I have no idea what it means.)? So how does that make me a hypocrite? I'll take crazy confusing weirdo. XD But I still don't get the hypocrite stuff. What's a hypocrite?

A hypocrite is someone who says they're against or for something, and then does the exact opposite. You love him but you don't want him to love you back. What's in this for you?

Oh. So that's a hypocrite. What do you mean what's in it for me?

What do you get out of this one-way relationship if you're not even trying to get him to like you?

I have no idea. And anyways, I don't want him to like me. If he likes me, fine, I don't care. It would pretty much stay like that. But yeah, being a rebellious hypocrite that I am.......... I dunno. I'm not even sure if I do want him to like me like that or just as a friend or what. Like I said before, I'm soo totally confused.

Maybe you should try putting this on the back burner for a while until you're not confused anymore.

Put it on the back what? And I'm pretty sure I'll be confused for YEARS or months, I dunno which. Just that I'll be confused about this for a long time. Or until he actually does talk to me. I have no idea. I'm no psychic.

Probably months, if you're 13. Stuff happens really fast right about now. I know - it's fresh off my mind.

Yeah I know that. But I like to take things sloooowww. As in really slooowww (however fast I want to get it done). And he's taking forever too.

But what exactly is he supposed to be doing? I thought this was a one-way street.

Tell me whether or not he likes me back or not (Didn't I say that before?). Cuz from him, I'm getting mixed signals. Like, waaaaayyyyy mixed signals.

And when he tells you, things will be at a standstill, whatever his response is. You don't want to get together, remember?

Yep. I dunno. No idea. Confused still, remember? Depends I guess. Eh. I'm confusing myself even more now. I'm so confused, I have no idea whatsoever what I'm talking about.

Well, I don't know the details, so talk to someone who does.

Anyone else got any love comments?

Off-Topic: Great. Now I got no one to talk to about anything at all.

Off-Topic: Great. Now I got no one to talk to about anything at all.

Send a PM then. Although there are probably people that can help you more than I can.

Eh I'm bored. So I'ma post this quote I got from another forum.

"Love is patient, Love is kind, It does not envy, it does not boast, It is not proud, It is not rude, It is not self-seeking, It is not easily angered, It keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. Love always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. L o v e N e v e r F a i l s."

And yes, they're bent. Unless you're kidding, which I don't get the vibe that you are.

Hahaha, I asked you to explain why they were bent though. Of course, I'm not disapointed; I knew you wouldn't. XD

"Love is patient, Love is kind, It does not envy, it does not boast, It is not proud, It is not rude, It is not self-seeking, It is not easily angered, It keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. Love always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. L o v e N e v e r F a i l s."

Deadly Love,

That quote is from the Bible. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8a. It is quoted so many times (especially at marriages), that a lot of people don't know it comes from the Bible unfortunately. That chapter has always been one of my favorite passages in the Bible. It's beautiful, isn't it?

Hahaha, I asked you to explain why they were bent though. Of course, I'm not disapointed; I knew you wouldn't. XD

Dark Bring hasn't even been gone a month Hopeless, does this mean the love thread is the new hot topic? =D

Deadly Love,

That quote is from the Bible. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8a. It is quoted so many times (especially at marriages), that a lot of people don't know it comes from the Bible unfortunately. That chapter has always been one of my favorite passages in the Bible. It's beautiful, isn't it?
It is?

:P Yes, it is.

~Like I mentioned before, "love causes (suffering/is not worth it) when you're young", I didn't learn that from someone. Unfortunately, I learned it the hard way... (when I was 13, too :bleh: . I'm turning 15 in 3 weeks.). I've honestly had regrets about this...

Basically, it has caused me to study Mozart too much (which is a very strict style), and focus on music a bit too much. But I'm more wise when it comes to "liking/loving people".

I learned that when I think I "love someone", it may be an infatuation. That's one thing I always think about :) .

True. Why else do you think that I'm waiting 'til I'm older to even go through all that kinda stuff? Your birthday is exactly one week from mine.

lol omg hahaha that's a weird result

I know that. I've written a poem about that already. That's why I'm so confused right now. Like duh.

Off-Topic: Great. Now I got no one to talk to about anything at all.

Great. This thread isn't about you anyways.


Now I got no one to talk to about anything at all.

What are your friends for? If you can't talk to them about your problems they aren't very good ones.

Dark Bring hasn't even been gone a month Hopeless, does this mean the love thread is the new hot topic? =D
Lmao, Dark Bring left for a bit eh? I was wondering where he went. And yeah, I was kind of ramping this topic up to be the hot new thing, but then I left for a few days. I've been busy modeling in Maya, sorry about that. :heh:
Of course, in a few days I should have an awesome piece of art to show for it, so whatever I guess. XD
And lol @ MethodX. I was kind of thinking the same thing. I was going to ask, but it seemed I was bothering the poor girl enough already...

Love can hurt. But I bet you guys already knew that. :mellow:

We knew that, but that doesn't necessarily mean we were anywhere near the subject. <_<

Your sig raises a good point.

agreed a very good point

I've been trying to figure out love for a while now...love isn't just romantic love, it can also be friendship-love. But I don't know what the feeling of love is...well, I'm still young, so I have a lot of time.

Love is like tidus from ff10 if you don't pay constant attention to it will most likely wander of and get eaten by sin, sure it has some good points like teaching you some new tricks, for instance how to whistle with your fingers and how to laugh like a retard but even if you love it whole heartedly like yuna it can sometimes get pulled away from you.... and seem like a passing dream. XD

Uhhhhhhhh........ what?

:P I didn't like that comparison. Video Games... Movies... etc... the stuff you hear from these things <_< .

Haha, thanks. XD *totally off-topic*

What's the first thing that comes in your mind when the word 'love' comes up?

An Island

^ of loneliness, heartaches, and tears (for me that is)

^ of loneliness, heartaches, and tears (for me that is)

We're still young (considering both of our ages):\... it happens a lot. Like at my school, my English (9th grade) teacher sees people holding hands for like, a month. Then about two weeks later, he sees one person alone :\ . (You can assume he says sorry to him/her, etc...). He's trying to get us students off that stuff, but it happens :\ .

~The point I'm trying to say is~ well, you don't really "find that one person" when you're in your young years. So it happens a lot if you even try to blend in -_- (by "it happens a lot"- I mean you start feeling sad because you broke up with person "x", and it's not worth it).

Hey, look at me :\ . I was (and still) pressured to go with person "x" to dance "x". But from previous experience, I know it's not worth it now. I learned from my mistakes in the past, and there is NO way I'm doing it again.

All of my teenage years I've been through (12 1/2 yrs. - 14 yrs.-- turning 15 on Friday), I've always been asked that "same question" (Why don't you have a girlfriend?). I've switched schools 3 times during this time period <_< , and I am STILL asked this same question.

Ironically, he [my English teacher] proposed to someone during class :\ (yes, in front of a bunch of 8th graders). For real -_- .

Oh, jeez... that must be embarrasing. -_-l|l Hmmm, I personally think that love is a thing hard to earn/get, but if you think so, give it a shot, but don't put that in front of everything. You still have a future, grades, and necessities like that. I learned my lesson the hard way. You don't want to know...

And for people that want to...
Uhh, I kinda hooked up with someone over the net in the summer of 6th grade. I'm still with him today, but it's hard to keep contact... And the dangers of that is that I don't know if he's really 14 or not. XD Well, I'm pretty sure it is because I heard his voice before, but yeah. So, kinda precaution on these things, and be mature.

We're still young (considering both of our ages):\... it happens a lot. Like at my school, my English (9th grade) teacher sees people holding hands for like, a month. Then about two weeks later, he sees one person alone :\ . (You can assume he says sorry to him/her, etc...). He's trying to get us students off that stuff, but it happens :\ .

~The point I'm trying to say is~ well, you don't really "find that one person" when you're in your young years. So it happens a lot if you even try to blend in -_- (by "it happens a lot"- I mean you start feeling sad because you broke up with person "x", and it's not worth it).

Hey, look at me :\ . I was (and still) pressured to go with person "x" to dance "x". But from previous experience, I know it's not worth it now. I learned from my mistakes in the past, and there is NO way I'm doing it again.

All of my teenage years I've been through (12 1/2 yrs. - 14 yrs.-- turning 15 on Friday), I've always been asked that "same question" (Why don't you have a girlfriend?). I've switched schools 3 times during this time period <_< , and I am STILL asked this same question.

Ironically, he [my English teacher] proposed to someone during class :\ (yes, in front of a bunch of 8th graders). For real -_- .
What happens a lot?

I don't search. And even if I do find him, I doubt if I'm even gonna notice. What happens alot? Blend in what? Eh, no guy is worth crying over.

Doing what again?

Advanced Happy B-Day. lol hahahaha. I dunno. People are just like that. They think that when you're around that age, you're old enough for it and everything but really you're actually not.

Are you serious? A teacher proposed to a student? :sick:


Animejunkie: Yep. Education goes first.

"It happens a lot."- 13-16/17 yr. olds get a girl/boyfriend, and break up.

"There's no way I'm doing that again."- I was pressured in 8th grade, actually, to get with someone. People found out that I liked someone, and too much happened; gossip :P .

"Blend in."- Well, people sometimes feel they're not doing what "everyone else" is doing. :P



Are you serious? A teacher proposed to a student?

No, actually, my English teacher's girlfriend (who was a teacher) happened to be working at the same school at the time. The students were just there to witness it. :P

:P Yes, it is.

~Like I mentioned before, "love causes (suffering/is not worth it) when you're young", I didn't learn that from someone. Unfortunately, I learned it the hard way... (when I was 13, too :bleh: . I'm turning 15 in 3 weeks.). I've honestly had regrets about this...

Basically, it has caused me to study Mozart too much (which is a very strict style), and focus on music a bit too much. But I'm more wise when it comes to "liking/loving people".

I learned that when I think I "love someone", it may be an infatuation. That's one thing I always think about :) .


coming from a fourteen-year-old, that makes an incredible amount of sense and is pretty much correct. it is pretty much infatuation

Uhh, I kinda hooked up with someone over the net in the summer of 6th grade.

Don't say you "hooked up" with someone. Hooking up with someone means you're having sex with them. You scared the crap out of me there for a second. :heh:

Well that's like the terms "going out" or "going steady". Going out used to have its literal meaning (you are going out to the movies with Shana). Somehow, in someway, when you say going out, it means that you are going steady with the person (I'm going out with Shana).

But English is weird like this.

"It happens a lot."- 13-16/17 yr. olds get a girl/boyfriend, and break up.

"There's no way I'm doing that again."- I was pressured in 8th grade, actually, to get with someone. People found out that I liked someone, and too much happened; gossip :P .

"Blend in."- Well, people sometimes feel they're not doing what "everyone else" is doing. :P




No, actually, my English teacher's girlfriend (who was a teacher) happened to be working at the same school at the time. The students were just there to witness it. :P
Yeah. It's actually pretty rare to find teenage relationships (well at least when you're still in high school and below) to last past high school/college. Usually by then, the couple breaks up or something.

Oh. Well, most people of this generation are pretty much like that.

Well that's just stupid to get with someone (Chris, I don't mean having sex with them, okay? I mean like going out with them) just because almost everyone else are in a relationship.


Oh. Hahahaha. Okay. I thought you meant that the teacher proposed to a student. :heh: :heh: That'd be creepy.....


coming from a fourteen-year-old, that makes an incredible amount of sense and is pretty much correct. it is pretty much infatuation
Exactly. I really don't see the difference between the two. Anyone see any difference?


Don't say you "hooked up" with someone. Hooking up with someone means you're having sex with them. You scared the crap out of me there for a second. :heh:
No. Actually, that could mean two things (as far as I know, at least).
1. You're having sex with them (just like you said)
2. You two are a couple

Yeah. It's actually pretty rare to find teenage relationships (well at least when you're still in high school and below) to last past high school/college. Usually by then, the couple breaks up or something.

Oh. Well, most people of this generation are pretty much like that.

Well that's just stupid to get with someone (Chris, I don't mean having sex with them, okay? I mean like going out with them) just because almost everyone else are in a relationship.


Oh. Hahahaha. Okay. I thought you meant that the teacher proposed to a student. :heh: :heh: That'd be creepy.....


Exactly. I really don't see the difference between the two. Anyone see any difference?


No. Actually, that could mean two things (as far as I know, at least).
1. You're having sex with them (just like you said)
2. You two are a couple



there's a small difference where infatuation is sorta creepy and love is not
but yeah they are really similar

Exactly. I really don't see the difference between the two. Anyone see any difference?


Ok. Here's the "dictionary.com" definition:

Infatuation is defined as:


A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction.

;) Just to show the difference...

Ok. Here's the "dictionary.com" definition:

Infatuation is defined as:



;) Just to show the difference...


like i said, creepy

:lol: XD Hahahaha. Aight. Got the difference. Thanks. Hahahaha.

No. Actually, that could mean two things (as far as I know, at least).
1. You're having sex with them (just like you said)
2. You two are a couple

That's like saying "gay means happy." Is it true? Technically, but nobody uses it like that. :rolleyes:

or "chip of the old block" XD im not even sure what chip of the old block means

i see what your saying hopeless

That's like saying "gay means happy." Is it true? Technically, but nobody uses it like that. :rolleyes:

Actually, the word "gay" can mean two things (:P Look it up).

Omg, was that a joke? > <
Or did what I said go right over your head Clarinetist? :heh:
Also, "gay" has like 10 definitions, just like every other word in the English language. XD

i see what your saying hopeless
Haha, I'm glad somebody does. X3

Omg, was that a joke? > <
Or did what I said go right over your head Clarinetist? :heh:

EDIT: >.< Never mind. Just read (as in the present tense) it :P.

^ XD

I think love is emotional. If you are in love (yeah, love) you seem to think the other person is physically attrative. Doesn't that seem oddening? Like, before you didn't know the person liked the things you did, or have interests in the same thing-they might not be as physically attrative then, but now they seem like they've blossomed up.

I know it seems weird, but it's creepy. Like I know the girl that I really like now, was attractive (physically) but now that I know she likes me and I like her even more, she seems like a stone-cold fox almost :heh: . I know, weird.

~~~

Anyway, love (when you know it) is when you get the feeling of what the other person is feeling. For instance, now that I know that girl likes me back, I have a feeling that she is shy. This MIGHT as well be her first "relationship" like this-so I could understand. Though, it's DEFINATELY mine, but I called her.

I could also see love being oddening to people, sometime you can't think straight or anything-YOUR A MESS! In a short, short time, your mind will come to a clearity.

I know I haven't talked to her in a little while, but I am sure I will, but it seems that I've gotten past the "OMG WTF" stage within this time.

And the saying, "Separation makes the heart grow fonder." Is killing me now. :cry: Anyway, I still am in awe that a person like me is liked by a girl like that.

And love, for instance, IS true. I was preety hated for the world, but now I am making a change in my attitude and opening up to other people.

Seriously, if you are "sicluded" talking to someone that you are fond for CAN help.

I don't agree my fourth love and first girlfriend, doesn't really seem that physically attractive all of the attraction is pretty much other.
I don't care about physical attraction.

I think physical attraction has some weight, at least in the beginning. In the sense of thinking "that guy/girl's really cute, i should go talk with him/her." But as you get to know the person better, I think that Gokol is right in that physical attraction becomes less of an issue. As the relationship develops, the other person's personality and values and how you relate to them take on more and more weight.

As the relationship develops, the other person's personality and values and how you relate to them take on more and more weight.

No wai. I can't be in a relationship with an ugly girl. It's not because I can't like an ugly girl. They're just impossible to flirt with. When flirting with cute girls, you can be all "ugh, you're so fat! Why do I talk to you!? ;) "
You can't do that with ugly girls, because you won't be joking, hence ruining...the relationship. XD

"ugh, you're so fat! Why do I talk to you!?"

-.- That's considered flirting? -.-

Hey, if the ugly girl isn't fat then you ARE joking. -.- Like duh.

I hope you get karma and be in a relationship with an ugly girl and actually love her. Then she dumps you for a better looking guy and you cry and then kill yourself.

...Should I replace "fat" with "ugly" then? :rolleyes:
And FYI, karma doesn't exist, nice guys finish last, and I'm the best looking bastard in the universe.
Looks like you're out of luck as far as your hopes for my future go. ;)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha! X3

Hopeless, perhaps you should consider a slightly different strategy to flirting? That is, assuming how you currently go about it doesn't work.

Hopeless, perhaps you should consider a slightly different strategy to flirting? That is, assuming how you currently go about it doesn't work.
Nay, knave. I am quite steadfast in my flirtatious methods. Do not attempt to change my charted course of love and destiny!

That type of flirting can acually get you places, (good or bad.) It just depends weather the recipient of the flirsts takes them seriously or not. Thus, a pretty girl with high self esteem would know that he's joking, and un ugly girl might not.

Nay, knave. I am quite steadfast in my flirtatious methods. Do not attempt to change my charted course of love and destiny!

If it's a course that works, then continue doing so. Like Spot said, it depends on who you're flirting with. If you know them well enough, then that type of comment makes sense. I'm just hoping you don't go up to complete strangers and say that.

I can picture you actually doing that, I just think acting like Miroku would be more entertaining...I should do that sometime...:lol:

Haha, of course of course. Which is why I can't get along with ugly girls. It's not that I think badly of them, it's just that they don't have the self-esteem to take my jokes and/or my jokes wouldn't be jokes if I said them to them. Saying "you're the ugliest girl I've ever met ;) " doesn't get a lot of laughs if the girl I'm talking to actually is the ugliest girl I've ever met. I have an evil sense of humor, so any friends I keep need to have high self-esteem, good looks, and intelligence. X3


I'm just hoping you don't go up to complete strangers and say that.
Of course I do. Don't you remember that hilarious girl on my birthday night? "YOU LOOK TIRED, COME LIE DOWN!"
I'd of totally called her ugly if Marrissa didn't ruin my damned night. XD
I still need to like...key her car for that, heheh.
And...no more inside jokes...
And no, I'm not really the sort of person to go around keying people's cars.

Miroku? Lech?
Humourous, perhaps.
Get you anywhere. Probably not.
Unless you got lucky and tried it on depraved/horny bitch girl.

Miroku? Lech?
Humourous, perhaps.
Get you anywhere. Probably not.

Yeahhh....acting like Miroku would only bring you fun for the next morning, when you and all your friends are laughing about the broken jaw you earned the night before. It's still something I want to try at least once anyway. Or...maybe just watch a friend try. :3

Sure, turn all your friends into ass-grabbers.
Only a matter of time until your ass gets grabbed.

Sure, turn all your friends into ass-grabbers.
Only a matter of time until your ass gets grabbed.

See Spot's signature. Karma doesn't exist! Kekekekeke. XD
Plus, my ass is fast as lightning; nobody can catch it. People go to grab it and *fwish~!* It's gone! Just like that! O: