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Urgh, did I mention that I really, really suck at picking out the piano line when I'm transcribing from mp3s? I've been fiddling around with my keyboard and listening to the mp3 for Smallest Delight (.hack OST 2) for days and I just can't figure out the chords >.< Melody line instruments, no problem, I can distinguish those tones easily, but piano, forget it x_x

Good idea Maz, *pins*

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About that melody line - it's easier if you find what key the song is played in before you try to pick out the chords and melodies, it helps alot. Picking up bass-notes before chords is also a good idea :P

Ooo, that's a good suggestion, thankyou - yeah, I've got the cello line down, in fact I've got them all sorted except for the dratted piano line. I'll likely figure it out eventually after ages of fiddling around XD

Incidentally, did you know that if you're having difficulty transcribing from an mp3 'cause you can't pick out a particular melody instrument, sometimes plugging the headphones in (like a standard pair of walkman headphones) and just having one phone in your ear can really bring forward a particular instrument. I found this out by accident - when I have both earphones in it's really hard to pick out the cello in Smallest Delight but when I just have the left one in some of the volume of the upper instruments is drastically cut which allows me to hear the cello heaps more clearly.

Something to do with the panning between headphones methinks :mellow:

I didn't know that :mellow: This could be of great use, thanks :P

I never thought this day would come! =D *tears up and sings*

Ah, I can pick out melody with not much difficulty . . it's the chords that are hard for me, because harmony can go in so many directions, but when you mesh them together (i.e. 3 - 4 notes played simultaneously), it's hard to distinguish what is what.

Yeah, the chords are what I'm having trouble with >.<

So . . how do we keep this music thread rolling? :heh:

Well, let's practice some chord recognition then - here's a fairly easy chord progression to get you started off. No fancy stuff like diminished/augmented notes or and non-harmonic notes added to the mix. Just plain, and easy, triadic chords. The only thing that might be tricky is recognizing them in different inversions (but they are mostly basic still). Anyways, try to figure it out without looking at the music or using a keyboard for help - the first chord is C major.

By the way, you don't even have to list it out in music theory format (ie, the roman numerals with the sub/super-text). Just list all the chord changes (the chords are repeated on per quarter note for better listenability) like 1. A-minor 2. D-Major 3. Bb-Minor, etc...

Any takers?

Progression 1 (http://www.snipamasta.co.uk/hosted/Spc1st/Misc/chords1.mid)

Ooo, that's hard... >.< Um, is the next one a D major chord? I can't figure out any of the others after that :blink: (you can see why I suck with piano transcriptions XD)

Agh! x_x I'm no good with this stuff...I see no point in it.

Yeah, in retrospect, I probably should've made it slower - it's certainly harder to follow without the sheet music. If enough people are interested, we could even make this into a mini-activity of shorts, and every person can try to identify the chords in the next measure (most only have one, though two of them have two).

Personally, I usually identify chords in a somewhat intuitive manner by comparing how relatively consonant or smooth the transition is from one to the next. The more consonant it is, the more similar the chords are (ie, how many notes they share).

For example, A-minor root inversion (that is, starting from A) creates an A-C-E triad. The most similar chords (outside of the same triad at different octaves) are C-E-A and E-A-C, the next two inversions of the A-minor chord.

The next most similar ones are of course those that share one or two notes - C-major with C-E-G, D-major/minor with D-F/F#-A, E-major/minor with E-G/G#-B, and C minor with C-Eb-G. Note that even though C-major shares two notes, D-minor/major actually "sounds" more similar and smooth compared to it because it contains the tonic note (A), which most strongly influences how the chord sounds. Also, note that if you sort of merge A-major withe C-major, you get the A-minor 7th chord (but I digress).

Chords starting on D or E will occur very commonly (note that they are a 4th and 5th away from A, giving you the IV and V chords.) I'm sure most of you heard of the good of I-IV-V progression somewhere, and maybe even so much that you hate it by now :P. But yeah, people like to use it so much because it works so "well". But anyways...

Here's a site you might want to check out that gives some basic but fundamental music theory knowledge: http://musictheory.net/. It's presented in a very user friendly way, with each lesson organized in a little flash file. Also, there are many trainers that can help you with things like interval/scale/chord identification. But yeh, if you have an hour or two to spare sometime, give that site a look-see. I'm sure you'll find something useful there.

Yeah, in retrospect, I probably should've made it slower - it's certainly harder to follow without the sheet music. If enough people are interested, we could even make this into a mini-activity of shorts, and every person can try to identify the chords in the next measure (most only have one, though two of them have two).

Good idea. I suggest you start another thread, though. Unless you were already planning to do that, of course. :heh:

Here's a site you might want to check out that gives some basic but fundamental music theory knowledge: http://musictheory.net/. It's presented in a very user friendly way, with each lesson organized in a little flash file. Also, there are many trainers that can help you with things like interval/scale/chord identification. But yeh, if you have an hour or two to spare sometime, give that site a look-see. I'm sure you'll find something useful there.
Thanks a bundle. ;) I'm definetely going to study there. :smartass:

Good idea. I suggest you start another thread, though. Unless you were already planning to do that, of course. :heh:

That's a good idea (which I curiously overlooked, too concentrated in posting explainations that no one probably wants to hear :bleh: ) - it's probably better to keep more specific stuff seperate from this thread. I'll simplify the MIDI and start another thread when I get home.

Hm. This thread doesn't seem as popular as I expected it would be. Anyway...

Does anyone here like Moldau by Smetana? I love it.

I like it =) but when I was told of the program descriptions (e.g. what dancing fairies?), I couldn't hear them all in the music ._.

I like the idea of this topic.

Perfect place to post this; could some one turn my .MUS files into .MID files for me? I would greatly appreciate it!

Does anyone here like Moldau by Smetana? I love it.

It's one of my favorites, too! I also love Vysehrad ("The High Castle"), the first Symphonic Poem in the cycle.

I like the idea of this topic.

Perfect place to post this; could some one turn my .MUS files into .MID files for me? I would greatly appreciate it!

I can, but not for a fortnight as I'm going away.

Also, I'm working on a complete conductors score for Manoshikan Mist in Noteworthy Composer but .NWC files ain't supported on here... >.<

You could zip them, will that work? Anyways, I'll talk to Gand about Noteworthy files upload.

I can, but not for a fortnight as I'm going away.

Also, I'm working on a complete conductors score for Manoshikan Mist in Noteworthy Composer but .NWC files ain't supported on here... >.<

That's very kind of you, if I haven't got them done by then, I'll speak with you. :)

Anybody try to write 'bird music'? I'm not talking about using trills and such to simulate the chirping, but actual musical pitches.

And anybody up for writing fun theme music? Gypsy, pirate, argh, I had more in mind, etc.

Lol, I'm up for that XD A pirate theme.. sounds cool! Thank you for the suggestion Al, my next composition will be a pirate theme.

I should try to write music more often if at all.

Is there a way someone could rip the music from a movie for me? Theres no background sound but music, and its only 3 minutes long..So can anyone?

Anybody try to write 'bird music'? I'm not talking about using trills and such to simulate the chirping, but actual musical pitches.

And anybody up for writing fun theme music? Gypsy, pirate, argh, I had more in mind, etc.

That reminds me of this symphonic piece I've heard by a composer who used taped bird songs in conjunction with the orchestra. I forgot what the name of the piece or composer is, though I've heard it at least twice on the radio... :hey:


Is there a way someone could rip the music from a movie for me? Theres no background sound but music, and its only 3 minutes long..So can anyone?

Download Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net) and hit record after setting it to "What You Hear" on the drop-down menu while the movie is playing (I'm assuming it's on DVD? Or some other video format you can play on the computer?) Save in preferred format.

Download Audacity and hit record after setting it to "What You Hear" on the drop-down menu while the movie is playing (I'm assuming it's on DVD? Or some other video format you can play on the computer?) Save in preferred format.

What "What You Hear"??? There ain't no such thing! (At least on the Mac 9.x version) It must be exclusive to the Windows and OS X versions... <_<


That reminds me of this symphonic piece I've heard by a composer who used taped bird songs in conjunction with the orchestra. I forgot what the name of the piece or composer is, though I've heard it at least twice on the radio... :hey:

You're thinking of "The Pines of Rome" ("Pini di Roma", The second of the "Rome" cycle of Symphonic Poems. The first is "The Fountains of Rome" ["Fontane di Roma"], and the third is "Roman Festivals". ["Feste Romane"]) by Italian composer Ottorino Respighi. (1879-1936) The score calls for a rather large orchestra and a recording called "Il Canto dell' usignolo" (The Song of the Cuckoo") to be played at the end of "Pines of Gianicolo". They're all excellent pieces, and can usually be found as a set.

Well, my bird music idea was to learn the sounds/songs that a bird would make (rather than used taped recordings) and then make your own song out of that ^^ See how that turns out with various instruments . . haha, yes I'm weird . .

That's not weird, that's a good idea.

whee! neehee topic!

What "What You Hear"??? There ain't no such thing! (At least on the Mac 9.x version) It must be exclusive to the Windows and OS X versions... <_<



You're thinking of "The Pines of Rome" ("Pini di Roma", The second of the "Rome" cycle of Symphonic Poems. The first is "The Fountains of Rome" ["Fontane di Roma"], and the third is "Roman Festivals". ["Feste Romane"]) by Italian composer Ottorino Respighi. (1879-1936) The score calls for a rather large orchestra and a recording called "Il Canto dell' usignolo" (The Song of the Cuckoo") to be played at the end of "Pines of Gianicolo". They're all excellent pieces, and can usually be found as a set.

Hmm, try to mess around with it - see if there's a recording options menu or something like that, and that'll probably let you switch what input the program is reading from.

As for the piece, I don't think it's Resphigi's Pines of Rome - I believe it was composed by a more contemporary composer, from one of those northern European countries (Sweden, Finland, Norway), and the basis of the piece was actually on birds - in which many different types of bird songs were used.


Well, my bird music idea was to learn the sounds/songs that a bird would make (rather than used taped recordings) and then make your own song out of that ^^ See how that turns out with various instruments . . haha, yes I'm weird . .

That's an interesting idea, though it'd be a little tricky to notate - seeing as most bird calls have a very microtonic nature that'll be hard to emulate with our equally tempered instruments. Still, a neat thought : B).

It would sound kind of "Flight of the Bumblebee"-ish wouldn't it? :)

Anyone know what that song in Ocean's 11 is called? That classical one which i think is debussy or something. Can't quite remmeber.

clair de lune??

sounds right

oooh, my i stuffed two of my fingers badly on a ceiling fan and i can't play piano properly >.< putting too much pressure on hurts, so i can't play louder, and i can't stretch as far as i normally can....which isn't very far >_<''''

Not as bad as spraining your fingers. At least you can move them. <kisses Inu's fingers to make them heal faster>

lol, thanks, just don't let Shizuno see that XD nor spiky for that XD

My piano student doesn't like listening to me =(

How can you determine what level you're playing at in piano? (As in Grade)

:music: Nutcracker March! :music:

lol, thanks, just don't let Shizuno see that XD nor spiky for that XD

shh shh! ;) (goes for everyone!)

@Al - don't shout at him. He's paying you money, his fault for not listening.

@KakumeiLight - I don't think you can determine it. :unsure:

Haha, no I don't shout at my students . . that's part of the problem, I'm too afraid to discipline them, they're not my kids! So they run all over me! xD

(Sorry, meant to edit original post)

im learnin the bass!!! weeeee.... im no good at it... but weee
well im not taking classes or anything...
im just learnin it whilst being in me band =D so while everyone else knows what they are doing, im trying to figure out whats what and... erhh... anywayz...

@KakumeiLight - same answer anyway.

Haha, no I don't shout at my students . . that's part of the problem, I'm too afraid to discipline them, they're not my kids! So they run all over me! xD

Lol, if I had a student I'd nearly torture him. Or her.

Anyways; Does anyone have good suggestions for practising cross rhythm? :whistle:

Take it hands alone until you can play both with ease. Then slowly put them together. But you probably knew that. :heh:

Sometimes it helps me to find the math behind it. When I learned triplets vs. eighth notes, my teacher showed my the math behind the rythym and I actually understood it. It was much easier than how I had been doing it.

Lol, if I had a student I'd nearly torture him. Or her.

Anyways; Does anyone have good suggestions for practising cross rhythm? :whistle:

smash your fingers across the keyboard if they don't do what you want them to. (it hurts though - duh!)

mm, I understand the math behind it. It's just that whenever I attempt to merge them I play them in a common rhythm v_v Ah well, practise practise, I suppose..

@an-kun: I've already done that, hence why my display is nearly broken.

XD maybe you're not hitting hard enough.

for 2 against 3 cross rhythms, my teacher tells me to think 'nice cup of tea', and for 3 against 4, to think 'what atrocious weather'. i found a site on it, as im prolly making absolutely no sense whatsoever:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyrhythm

Cross Rhythms are sometimes challenging, but just try to FEEL the music, if you know what i mean. Whatever sounds right lol. You know that cross rhythms are weird, but it's not...ridiculously weird, it should make sense too. So FEEL it lol

Slow cross cross rhythms are no problem for me, but when they are in a high tempo I tend to blur them into one rhythm.

neerolytes idea is good i think. That works pretty well but you need to concentrate hard.

hm...fast cross rhythms are hard, especially trying to play clearly too. I can't recall any practice books that might be helpful on how to get this cross rhythms thing. um..I guess the easiest way is to get it at first when it's slow, and practice more and more until you can play it faster

In a song i'm learning, at the end of the song it has the words, "Repeat and F.O." And I was wondering what the F.O. means and stands for :think: I know it is prob some italian or latin word, but uh, what am I suppose to do?

F.O = Fade out

Ey'... hehe I gotcha. Dunno why they can't just put a decresendo sign. :eyebrow:

hm interesting, i never see that sign before

Ahh, wrong spot... ignore

Anybody like to mess around on their instruments? And weird tricks? =P

For the main theme of Fur Elise, I like to play the LH parts with my RH, and vice versa. And once in a while, I also like to try playing simple songs backwards (i.e. lying on my back) :heh:

i played piano with my feet once, wasn't sucessful lol

i once switched chunks of my clarinets with each other and tried to play it. it was pitched in Ab :D

Hold the violin with both hands (facing away from you) and the bow with your knees (hair facing you). Now play by moving the violin up and down ~

As for piano.... not really a trick but I often practise in a pitch black room. That, and with the moon shining in. :vampire: There's something disorientating about that atmosphere. Or perhaps I was just lacking sleep.

Haha, I do that often, playing the piano and singing in a dark room . .

That sounds awesome =P I really want to try that sometime.

Now I just need piano. and a dark room <.<

That sounds...intrueging.

oooh, closing your eyes and playing a piece. one time i did it i felt so dizzy afterwardsa dn the headspin was there for ages @_@ i think i tried standing up, turning my hands arounda nd trying to play like that once XD and i rearranged the chunks on my clarinet when i still played XD

hm..by the way, which one is correct, Sergei Rachmanioff, or Sergei Rachmaninov?

Both are correct. However, when he was alive he spelt his name Rachmaninoff. the -ov is russian spelling, and is pronounced -off. :)

Okay, me needs some help. In the movie "The Pianist" and in "Evangelion" both of those movies have only 1 cello song/solo in it. I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the song that Shinji and The Pianist's helper person played. ^.^

eerr....google it? XD

I think I know the one you mean...

Prelude from the Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 1 in G major - JS Bach

http://www.bachcentral.com/cellosuites/01Prelude.mid

It's also played in full on the Master and Commander OST - lovin' it :D

I've transcribed about 3 quarters of the violin solo in Canta Per Me on Yuki Kajiura's Fiction album, yay! Okay, so it's not on my transcribe list and I've got half a dozen others unfinished, but ach :ph34r:

There were a bunch of Chopin pieces in that movie also, wasn't there? Some of his Nocturnes at least. Other than that, the film was dull ~_~

Good luck on the Canta per me transcription. We need a better version of it on Ichigos =P

Yeah, that's what I figured - I didn't want to pike the solo off animescores so I'm doing me own; the one on the Fiction album is different to that on the Noir soundtrack anyway ^_^

Also, you talking about the pianist or master and commander? There ain't no Chopin on Master and Commander so I'm assuming you mean the Pianist ;) Can't remember much of the Master and Commander film but I fell in love with the score so I bought the OST; some great original pieces on there :D

Perfect. Thanks alot.

I have this idea for a composition, but I doubt I'll have the time and inspiration to pull it off. But feel free to use the idea:

So yeah . . the song starts off with the tics/tocs of a metronome. And then the main instrument(s) come(s) in. So at first you assume that someone's practicing with the metronome. But gradually, the metronome will take on a life of its own, until you realize that the tics/tocs are actually a part of the song! Like, they could form the beats? Just like with drums and percussion in pop songs or whatever?

I must sound crazy :heh:

I'd love to see this idea pulled off. And I'm not being sarcastic, I'm serious.

put the idea into action!! we'll all be here trying to inspire you! and GOOD LUCK!

Wonder how that would come out, sounds interesting.
I would like to hear outcome.
As for me im reallllll blocked and uninspired.
Leaving songs half done. :sweat:
*goes to listen to some music to maybe find a drop of inspiration.* :heh:

Uh, that goes for me too. I have like three half-done compositions right now. <.<

:shifty: someone from this forum is going to write the lyrics for my latest song . .

How is everybody coming along with their pieces? =)

Edit: next, not latest :heh:

My songs are going to the dumps T_T

Would anyone know who sings Radical Dreamers from Chrono Cross? Her voice is entoxicating..

P.S. Im thinking of posting my crap music..but I dont have the probrams and equipment to make it into MP3 or Midi, so I may just end up posting the notes. Would anyone be able to record the notes into Midi?

P.S.S. Saddly enough, I dont even have equpiment to make notes on the computer, so it will end up being scans if I do end up posting them XD

You could record it if you have a microphone.

*nags Al to reveal the lyricist*

Yes...but it wouldnt be of quality and my piano skills sucks...

Why don't you download a trial version of Finale or Noteworthy?

Screwed up in my first post already. :sweat:

Here's what it said: "Does anyone know the title of the song that plays in the fourth chapter of the Rurouni Kenshin OVA Trust and Betrayal, when Tomoe sees Kyosato's ghost and Kenshin continues to get beaten by Tatsumi?"

So if anyone could tell me the name of that song, I'd be very thankfull.

If only I had both the movie and the soundtrack with me, I'd be able to help you . . but I left it behind . . won't be seeing it again until the winter holidays? :heh:

The song isn't on the soundtrack. I could send you the movie, but it's a 189 Mb file! :heh:

Hmm, since some people haven't realized . . Noir or anybody else, can you edit this thread's title to: "Music General Discussion and Simple Questions"? Or something along those lines? =P

Why?

Music General Discussion is perfect.

Simple and clear.


So yeah . . the song starts off with the tics/tocs of a metronome. And then the main instrument(s) come(s) in. So at first you assume that someone's practicing with the metronome. But gradually, the metronome will take on a life of its own, until you realize that the tics/tocs are actually a part of the song! Like, they could form the beats? Just like with drums and percussion in pop songs or whatever?Actually.... there are a couple songs like that. "The Slain" and "Chess" by Luna Sea. It starts with a metronome and we have guitars or whatever coming in.... but the thing is.... it disappears after and switches to real percussion when the song picks up. Okay, so it's not exactly like your idea, but starts similarly. :P

I play guitar already but I pretend to play Keyboard (I don´t know almost anything about this instrument yet) also, my question is: Can I play a music in the Keyboard using the same piano partiture?

Okay. Im starting an experiment about the subcontious and if you can learn to play music with it. I will need 5-10 "test monkies" for it too. Also, you will need the following to do it:

CD/TAPE/MP3/WHAT EVER-PLAYER
A GOOD AMOUNT OF BATTERIES OF USING THE ABOVE
or the ability to run your computer all night with music on
the ability to play the Piano/keyboard

If you would like to participate, please reply by PM. I will then reply ASAP with directions and then make a thread for the trials.

Thankies! Im hoping to get it in for my school file :D

Could someone please recommend me a beginner piano piece to start off with? Preferrably classical.

Für Elise is easy to learn, and teaches you basic arpeggios. You could also learn Bach's Minuet in either G major, or G minor. ^_^

Thanks for the suggestions, but...

Forgive my lack of skills and n00bin355. Uhh, is Fur Elise meant to be easy? It looks rather quick. Perhaps I need to practise more.

practice slowly first. thats the easy way, then speed it up as you feel confident. thats how i learn things.

Exactly. Für Elise fits the hands really well, so if you practise it for a while, it will automatically stick to you.

Hey, I have a question about "Key of the Twilight" (from .hack//sign OST) I can't figure out the chord changes on the part right after the verse. You know the part where the vocals say "now fly me there." And then everything becomes difficult for me to discern. If I play it on accoustic guitar, I'll ussually just fill the time with the same progression from the verse, but I'd like to know the chords it goes to there.

Für Elise is easy to learn, and teaches you basic arpeggios. You could also learn Bach's Minuet in either G major, or G minor. ^_^

I've actually seen fur elise (the beginning) as a grade 3 associated board of music standard so I recommend doing the bach minuet instead.

On a side note, I HATE fur elise. Too many people play it!

On a side note, I HATE fur elise. Too many people play it!

haha agreed but the parts that people cannot play are pretty...it's a pretty easy song...so repetitive :D

hehe post #100

Too many people play it because its an easy song to learn, silly. :P

Well, it represents a few years of piano lessons. You can't learn it right off the bat, but it doesn't take too much mastery to play (well, unless you want to play it very emotionally; the way it was intended), so it's a good placemarker. Many, many people apparently reach that placemarker. :p

I've actually seen fur elise (the beginning) as a grade 3 associated board of music standard so I recommend doing the bach minuet instead.

On a side note, I HATE fur elise. Too many people play it!

Lol, I only get the beginning, right when it does all that un-repetative crap..X_X

Egh, I hate Fur Elise! If you want an easy piece, just play Sango's theme from Inu Yasha. Of course, that isn't classical. I don't know many classical songs.

He would be better off starting with classical pieces, and then moving onto anime/game music, or whatever. Not the other way around.

I'm with Noir. You learn so many techniques in classical that you can relate to nonclassical pieces. Or so I'm told.

Oh.. Well the first songs I started learning were video game songs.

Gah, Gunpowder tea is starting to annoy me.

It's smarter than me. poop

It's important to memorize notes on the staff for both bass and treble? Because I'm guilty sometimes of counting the spaces between a note and the next and playing it like that, especially when high above or below the staff. A bad habit? It's not as if I want to become a concerto pianist, I'm more interested in the jazz and rock style.

And how do you decode chords quickly? Memorize the structures and play off the base note?

This is for piano by the way.

Ummm... you can read music like that :blink:. I think it would be a good idea to memorize the note names (I mean it just a-g). When it is ungodly high is when you should start to count (like 3 bars above the staff).

And for decoding chords: you hit it one the nose. You just have to learn the basic structure of a chord and bulid up on it (keeping in mind the proper inversion of it)

Understanding harmony also helps you to decode chords. If you learn all the different types out there, it'll become easier to familiarize yourself with the patterns. And like Mies said, even if the composer throws an inversion at you, you'd still be able to figure it out.

*posts here to remind himself to finally listen to some Ichigo songs since he has a three-day weekend coming up*

Eb major - you are warm and kind, always there for your friends, who are in turn there for you. You are content with your confortable life and what you are currently achieving; if you keep in this state you will go far.

http://quizilla.com/users/UnprodigalBoi/quizzes/what%20key%20signature%20are%20you%3F/

Which key are you? :heh:

'Cb major - life is full of complecations, commitments and organisation. You love to make sure everything is just perfect, but sometimes this can cause you to fall over your own feet. A slightly unsociable key: why Cb major when you could be the identical Bmajor? It has less accidentals.'

o_O I thought I was gonna be A flat major but I ended up with C flat major... :heh: XD

C major - the simplest key. You are content with where you are now, you have what you need. Some people are happy in C major, but it is up to you to decide to push yourself further if you want more from your life.

Phhhffeehh. How fucking bland.

'Cb major - life is full of complecations, commitments and organisation. You love to make sure everything is just perfect, but sometimes this can cause you to fall over your own feet. A slightly unsociable key: why Cb major when you could be the identical Bmajor? It has less accidentals.'

o_O I thought I was gonna be A flat major but I ended up with C flat major... :heh: XD

I got that too. Maybe great minds sound alike?

G# minor - You are not totally happy, and you know it. At least you are trying to do something about it. You like to think and create to try and sort out your problems. Keep going the way you are, and you will soon be on speaking terms with your demons.

O_o

G# minor is a killer key though =P

Eb major - you are warm and kind, always there for your friends, who are in turn there for you. You are content with your confortable life and what you are currently achieving; if you keep in this state you will go far.

http://quizilla.com/users/UnprodigalBoi/quizzes/what%20key%20signature%20are%20you%3F/

Which key are you? :heh:
Whee ~ I got the same result too. :D Nice find, btw.

Eb major as well.. they said 30% got that one

Ever since Beethoven's 3rd Symphony, Eb major has been regarded as the most "heroic" key.

(It was in that key... and it was called "eroica," which means... y'know... heroic.)

Interesting, I did not know that.

I'm guessing everyone likes being in Eb Major.. Same here... though the second time I took it I was a C major....

Whee! My favorite key is Db Major, and guess what I got? Db Major! ^____^

SO.... How about them parallel 4th chords! I love tuning them!!! <3 Them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :frusty:

I did this quiz before, and I did it again (I'm Cb major) . . *shrugs* I prefer C major, haha.

Oh god... I ended up as *shudder* G sharp minor...

Eb major - you are warm and kind, always there for your friends, who are in turn there for you. You are content with your confortable life and what you are currently achieving; if you keep in this state you will go far.

Alot of us Eb major's here. Hmm, very interesting. ^_^

Bastard spiders must die.

XD rofl, I got Cb Major, and yes Zero, those bastard spiders must die

Ahhh!!! Cb!!!

I pissed my theory/chior director with that key XD

What's the best word you guys can come up with using only the following notes: ABCDEFG? :heh: *remembers those early music-learning books*

Adage? Face? Gabe?

I dunno.

Bead -g-c-f

The Order of flats~

John Coltrane is flippin' awesome. His "A Love Supreme" is very hectic, though seems to glue together well.

Cb major - life is full of complecations, commitments and organisation. You love to make sure everything is just perfect, but sometimes this can cause you to fall over your own feet. A slightly unsociable key: why Cb major when you could be the identical Bmajor? It has less accidentals.

Thats the compleat oppasite of the real me O_o

What's the best word you guys can come up with using only the following notes: ABCDEFG? :heh: *remembers those early music-learning books*

DEAF - wit & sarcasm! wit & sarcasm! *dances around*... sorry about that x_x




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G# minor - You are not totally happy, and you know it. At least you are trying to do something about it. You like to think and create to try and sort out your problems. Keep going the way you are, and you will soon be on speaking terms with your demons.


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It's kinda accurate I guess, but I wonder how soon "soon" will be...;)

Whoo~

I'm not alone.

I got G# also... (bunch of lies!)

Anyways... anyone have a problem with playing a round with the same melody but starting at different times (but repeating) with each hand? On piano that is...

Not really. Some of the Bach inventions I've learned helped with that sort of thing.

Eh... I've tried practicing it, many many times, and it still isn't coming out right. And, I've been learning this piece for one year, and since each of the melody are all in octaves, I think my hand has grown bigger since I started, so now I keep going too sharp...

Anyone ever listened to Livintrust (http://www.livintrust.net)?

Its a rock band from Conneticut (Spelling wrong -_-)

Give me your opinions on it.

Sounds extremely ordinary.

I might be wrong.

Can anyone give me a good site with tutorials for finale?

I'm sure there's one out there Sondagger!

Ooer, I have my 6th grade exam coming up in....TWO WEEKS!! EEP! I'm so not ready! My scales suck, I'm still learning one of my pieces (I have a back up) andandandand....>_< gyah!!! man I wish I did more exams when I was younger. My first piano teacher didn't do exams every year, and I've been playing for ten years, so I could be past grade 8 by now!! *adopts foetal position*

Good luck with the exam!

For the scales: become best friends with the metronome, it worked for me! I was in the same situation as you.

Just do them nonstop.

If there's someone you don't like, lock them in the same room as you and just do your scales over and over. It's the perfect torture. :devil:

Al - Were you referring to me?

Sorry nope, I was referring to Inu-chan.

Haha, thanks Al and Sondagger :p I will do my best!

Ah... all right. This just occured to me today, because we were talking about mentoring younger children for community service, and I remember in fourth grade when my teacher was telling us a mnemonic device on how to remember the sharps order- Fat Cats Go Down Always Eating Beans. But this one kid blurted out, "Can't you use 'Fat Cats Get Diarrhea Always Eating Beans'?" I thought that that was humorous. O.o

lol. I learned Fat Cats Go Down Alleys Eating Bread

What ever works for you!

I just learned... F#C#G#D#A#E#B#

i learned 'Fat Cat Garfeild Died At Elvis's Bath' don't ask, it just helped me...

It helps ALOT with these things if you have perfect pitch, otherwise you have to use other memory devices....

Father Charles Goes Down and Ends Battle. (sharps)
Battle Ends and Down Goes Charles' Father. (flats)
Eh? Eh? ;)

Who listens to music when sleeping? I do..

Is there a particular CD you listen to? I listen to the Mononoke Hime sndtrack

I sometimes fall asleep with my mp3 player on ^_^

i stick my computer on all night downloading... whatever... or seeding the OCRemix torrents, and play a random playlist through this little speaker next to my bed. its kickass

Hello
I am new to this forumn but have been listening to Ichigo's sheet music for allmost 2 years now. I am a really big fan of the music. I would really like to know how to play 1000 words though from FFX-2. If anyone can direct me to the sheet music to that so i can try to read it and learn. I would be very happy. Thanks.

Just send an email to my account or just reply to my reply.

Who listens to music when sleeping? I do..

Is there a particular CD you listen to? I listen to the Mononoke Hime sndtrack

I do. I....listen to demon days.....:heh:

i kinda have to have music playing for me to sleep... its just become into a habbit i guess
so i always have the radio on... if not, then i start hearing a lot of noises everywhere and am unable to sleep lol...

same here.

hey, me too!

lol I'm always going to sleep with my head phones. I wish I had ones that were on a timer, so I could sleep with them on and have them go off when I'm totally asleep.

The silence calms me. I would only get frustrated or excited if I heard music. I'd be like "ooooooooohhhhHHH! that was an awsome progression with such a lovely sound!" or "DAMN Vincent Persichetti/ Claude T. Smith!!!! IT'S SOUNDS SO RANDOMLY ORGANIZED!!!!"

I would either have classical music, or my Departure or Masta CD. It's great to calm you down so you fall asleep, but when you're awake, it doesn't do that, so that's good.

Winamp's always playing when I'm sleeping.. that or the stereo. A habit I guess. Wherever music can, let it be. ^_^

my brother use to leave winamp on... but then my mum would yell at him in the morning for leaving the pc on lol

i generally sleep to any music... but since its always the radio then.. umm yeah.. lol
one song i cant sleep in is "thriller" by m.jackson XD why? i hate the dude taht talks at the end lol...

Winamp's always playing when I'm sleeping.. that or the stereo. A habit I guess. Wherever music can, let it be. ^_^

Same :bigsmile: except.. I don't have winamp installed in my compy.. so I use windows media player instead. =P

I always find myself falling asleep to the album Hex by Bark Psychosis. Don't be afraid of the band name, I find the album to be gentle and intricate

Ah crappy doo, had a lunch time piano concert thing for my teacher at her church and i stuffed both my piece (_ _) and lesson is tomorrow.....bad practice have I done...too much school work i have....nnnuuuuuuuu ~(++~)

bad practice have I done...too much school work i have....nnnuuuuuuuu ~(++~)

Speak like Yoda, you do... :lol:

>.> *gives up on making lyrics and writes out plain old music instead*

*kicks Al* You know your lyrics will turn out good. Don't give up :/

Quick question:- what are the characteristics of a serenade? :S

@Noir: but if I can't even come up with the theme/symbol to begin with, then . . yeah XD
@an-kun: umm . . I'm not sure of the official definition, but as I see it, it's something slow, soothing, romantic, sweet, gentle, etc.

@Noir: but if I can't even come up with the theme/symbol to begin with, then . . yeah XD

Then start with rhythm and see what words come. Often the harmony will subconsciously trigger a theme/symbol.

"Crocodile" is a good word for a waltz. Rhythmically, at least... :heh:

or Kangaro =P

or Kangaro =P

Even better, because you can linger on the -oo as long as you want... ^_^

Wait, so you propose lyrics AFTER you write the song? Wouldn't it be easier to write them before?

Actually, for me, it's easiest to write them simultaneously: Often nonsense words creep into my head with a strange little tune, I go from there, and the end result has very little to do with either. Arrangement comes last (and is usually not finished).

Wait, so you propose lyrics AFTER you write the song? Wouldn't it be easier to write them before?

Maybe. I think I'd be easier to write lyrics after just because I can come up with something that fits the melody easier.

I got this real big problem!
I just don't know what to do about it. Every classicla piece i compose is so damn similiar to mozart, just an exampel of how similiar it is;
I play this newly composed piece by ME for dad, and then he asks "I never knew Mozart composed such a song"
I mean, what the hell is wrong?
I just seem to get anything original :(

That was just one person who thought it was Mozart's. .

Anyways, Mozart's style is distinct from Beethoven or Haydn, but it's easy to say that any classical piece sounds like Mozart's or Beethoven's, or whatever. But to a certain point, a piece must meet certain requirements to sound classical in the first place, right? Really, if an expert in music analyzed their pieces and your piece, s/he'd find numerous differences, so don't worry.

Well, today, my teacher said the same thing :|
I think i know why, i somehow got this "typical" mozart thingie in my piece. So i decideed to take it away :sweat:

I wouldn't worry too much about it. If people say that it has a tint of "mozart" in it, you can always say that's what inspired you. I think....

Whoo~ One trancription done!

you know, ive listened to so many Chinese (cantonese and manderin) and Japanese music that I can tell the three languages apart in a heart beat....

*obbsesive..*

well chinese and japanese is quite distinctive i think... so i can tell those apart quite easily...
well.. i can tell the difference with all asian music... the only problem i have is when the songs are chinese and i dont know whether it is canto or mando...
i can work it out somtimes.. but it may take a while lol... or i know by the singer...

I wish I could compose something like Debussy...

uh..i wish i can compose like Chopin

Well, I wish i can compose like:

Beethoven
Chopin
Tchaikovsky
Gershwin
My band Teacher


there..

I wish I could compose peroid.

hah.. well one thing ive noticed, is that, every piano solo that is posted here, it played on a midi. only a select few are not.

if you actually write on manuscript paper, show some of that. or make others play the piece, and suffer ^^

I don't know if anyone has the same problem but when I play the piano my little finger on my right hand sometimes sticks out. I can't seem to correct it.

I used to have that problem. Its because you're too tense. Relax a little and see if that helps.

Hey, has anyone enjoyed playing on a slightly untuned piano? I did, and I loved the sound.

I bugs the crap out of me. Both of the pianos in our band room are slightly out of tune. I just can't stand it.

I have found a new love on the piano. A & D#~ The devil's fifth. :wub:

hrmm.. never tried a untuned piano... but i have played a piano where a few keys dont move (as in you cant hit them down.. ) and where its all wood and stuff.. so you play and you get all this friction and possible splinters ><"

Wasn't it John Cage who experimented alot with piano sounds? I think he used leaves and wooden stuff to change how the piano sounded, pretty cool =P

Yup, he invented the "prepared piano" =)

Prepared piano?

its a piano made already prepared to be played... O_O"
okay.. so i have no idea...

its a piano made already prepared to be played... O_O"
okay.. so i have no idea...


>.< Because, of course, there are pianos that are made so that it isn't prepared to be played.

brand new piano doesn't sound good because everything is stiff and too new, it's when you constantly use it for couple years where the sound of the piano really come out.

I guess that's what it mean by prepared or no prepared?

http://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/cage.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prepared_piano

Oh, I see. It all makes sense now. :heh:

:Edit: wrong sense

We should invent an instrument ourselves, but what would it be capable of . . :think:

Edit: I have a problem . . how can two people who only communicate through msn/aim compose a song together? :heh: I mean, what are the various ways you can divide up the work? My friend and I are having a difficult time getting started =(

I'm currently studying Czerny Op. 599, and I don't have a teacher nor do I plan to get one. How quickly would you recommend progressing through the book?

And on improvisation, how can I hope to learn that? Is there anything I should be doing to help with it?

We should invent an instrument ourselves, but what would it be capable of . . :think:

Edit: I have a problem . . how can two people who only communicate through msn/aim compose a song together? :heh: I mean, what are the various ways you can divide up the work? My friend and I are having a difficult time getting started =(

I use Ventrilo (voice program) and it works really well. With that, you can chat in real time and makes things a lot easier.

Talking over mic is not possible with us, but that's not the issue. The issue at hand is the fact that we don't know who'll do the melody, who'll write out this part, or that part, etc. @_@

I had my piano exam fo 6th grade last week! I passed! Got an A and was so scared = =;

^_^ Congrats!!!

well al, you guys can try making an opening to the song.. as in.. first choose what type of song you guys wanna do... and umm then yeah each of you make your own beginning to the song
and umm.. see which you guys prefer and umm..

i really dont know O_O" but all the best

But the opening's already done xD We just don't know how to delegate the roles in order to continue on.

*shrugs and taps foot/nods head to music he's listening* ah, the feel-good feeling, just cheers me up ^^

Why don't you compose in a duet type of style? Like, you introduce a progression with a singing part (if you have any) and then your partner comes up with another part, that somehow reflects yours (it could have a similiar chord progression but a little different melody)

Why don't you all compose a style of music you're best at and try and put it together?

Haha, don't know if that'll work . .

Anyways! Whenever you guys play the piano (or whatever instrument you use) with your eyes closed, can you still imagine the keyboard in your mind?

It'd be worth a try. I've kind of wanted to do a duet composition with someone sometime. >.>

Once, for choir class, my choir teacher wanted to turn off the lights for ambience for the song I was accompaning. I don't know whether it was just nerves, but I couldn't do it, even though I had it memorized! It was sad.

Playing memorized and playing without seeing are two totally different things. You have to know the song pretty well to play it without seeing. Not to mention you have to have a really good feel for the keys and you have to trust yourself that you'll hit the right keys.

Sometimes my piano teacher will have me play a lick or a jump with my eyes closed. Its nerve racking, but it feels so great when you do it right.

When playing in the dark, try to feel the keys to figure out where your position is. Imagine the keyboard in your mind, as if you can actually see it in front of you . . at least that's how I do it, haha.

Anybody up for a new CMA contest? =)

I like playing in the dark, its kinky, and it's a big turn on for the ladies. So I suggest you hop on that.

o.O playing in the dark turns ladies on?
wow that's a first...

I wish I could compose peroid.

I was thinking the same thing.

o.O playing in the dark turns ladies on?
wow that's a first...


Not really, there are many types of ladies out there. Some perfer to be more kinky and well "liberal" then others.

Anybody up for a new CMA contest? =)

*pokes readers of this thread* I'm serious about this though.

Interesting. I just read somewhere that there has never been any significant composer who was atheist. Every single composer we know of who attained any success has been a theist. The reason they offered was nonsense, of course, some sort of stuff about having to receive direct inspiration from God, but it made me wonder. Is this true or is the source I got this from bullshitting?

Playing in the dark should be easier for boys because of some spacial perception thing with the brain that guys are apparently better at. Knowing how to play in the dark is gauging the space between keys/frets/whatever and getting your body to coordinate along with it (unless you've got night vision).

Good composers compose from feelings of the soul in my opinion. I don't think that the God statement may be entirely true though.

Interesting. I just read somewhere that there has never been any significant composer who was atheist. Every single composer we know of who attained any success has been a theist. The reason they offered was nonsense, of course, some sort of stuff about having to receive direct inspiration from God, but it made me wonder. Is this true or is the source I got this from bullshitting?

Well...

Most composers got their training as choristers, church organists, Choir directors or kapellmeisters. (Court composers/conducters, who also composed for the King's chapel.) This meant, of course, that they were, at least nominally, members of the religion/Church that the King was a member of. I wouldn't say that the article is total bullshit; but I don't think that it takes into account such later composers as Tchaikovsky (who, apparently, was no fan of religion) or Prokofiev or Shostakovitch who, at least early in their careers, embraced communist ideology and it's atheistic aspects.

Classical is nice but doesn't have enough "umph" to enchant me...Franz are the best...

Classical is nice but doesn't have enough "umph" to enchant me...Franz are the best...

You should try some of the stuff by Wagner, Rachmaninoff, and the other late Romantic era composers. They did some very emotional and powerful stuff, unless that "umph" you're talking about is the sledgehammer bassline in pop music.

"umph" is the greatest word ever, but overly vague and meaningless

Classical is nice but doesn't have enough "umph" to enchant me...Franz are the best...
I disagree

Did Hikaru Utada ever release any english albums of her song or are they all in japanese. I love her song First Love.


Thanks :)

Anybody up for a new CMA contest? =)
Oo! Oo! Me!

Classical is nice but doesn't have enough "umph" to enchant me...Franz are the best...
i have to agree with alot of the classical music that is played. Ive spent a while building up my selection and it has to reach me or tigger the right emotional response. the music is out there.
i have franz aswell, nt as big a fan of the new album

My neighbour's cat often sits at the window and stares into the window of my room . . so what do I do? Sing to the cat bits and pieces from my latest song and see how the cat reacts =D I'm telling you, that cat has a good musical ear!

That is amazing. You should see if the cat can sing back! :P

http://www.nme.com/news/the-killers/22962

To whoever likes the Killers.

:rolleyes:

Nobuo Uematsu is my favourite composer. Wooh!! He looks exactly like mu uncle. Beard and all. (Well,,,friends uncle)

Could someone identify this song for me? I think it's called Samba-something?

Im sure i posted this somewhere else but i forget.

What is the difference between an etude prelude nocturne and all those other type of piano thingys.

Gee, if you've got questions that broad, just Wiki (www.wikipedia.org) the terms.

Im sure i posted this somewhere else but i forget.

What is the difference between an etude prelude nocturne and all those other type of piano thingys.

Well, I'm hardly an expert, but I'll try to provide some help.

An étude is a piece intended to practice a certain skill, such as playing syncopated rhythms. Some études are rather dull and academic, based on repetition, while others are musical pieces like any other. Chopin composed many of the best known ones (those who have seen Fullmetal Alchemist may have caught one playing in the last episode).

Preludes are short pieces or movements that play before other, larger ones. They generally lack a specific form. In Baroque music, they often appear paired with fugues or at the begining of suites. Later on, preludes would often appear as stand-alone pieces, though still retaining their relatively free form and short length. Again, Chopin has composed a number of well-known preludes.

Nocturnes are a kind of character piece intended to be evocative of the night. Most commonly, they tend to be in minor keys and have slow tempos. Some have called the "moonlight" sonata a nocturne, though technically, it's a sonata, a different form entirely. Guess who composed many nocturnes? Chopin, though the form was actually invented by composer John Field.

:/ My post got unnoticed on the previous page - could someone check it out?

Sorry noir. I have never heard the song before.

Sorry, Noir7, you got me too.

So I have this song I'd like to upload, but it's just over the 5 mb limit. When I use Acoustica to decrease the size, it shoots down to 3 mb, but I'd like for it to stay in the 4 mb range so as not to compromise the sound quality. Any suggestions?

Edit: Thanks!

@Al: You tried the good 'ol WinZip? If it's *just* over 5mb then it could fix it for you.

@Everyone else: No one could identify it? :/ Well just in case I filled it out a bit... care to listen again and see if something pops up??

Al, just upload it somewhere else and post a link to it!

And, sorry, Noir7. Why the hell do you want to know, anyway?

Wait a minute. You just reminded me of a song I want identified. Hate to seem like a copycat, but I'll be posting a midi soon too.

It's okay, Noir's suggestion worked =P

One day, this world needs a database of *every* song composed. :think: