Nope, no luck. No matter where I am, when I tell it to delete a file, it just comes up with the "deleting file" dialog and hangs there forever. If I try deleting it from the command prompt, it just acts like it deleted it even though it didn't. If I use Killbox to try deleting it, it just says the file cannot be deleted. And my Explorer keeps on hanging and restarting for no reason. It's some serious bullshit. I don't feel like reformatting, but it looks like I might have to. What a stupid problem!

If you haven't already, try using a different anti virus to scan it and use a different anti spyware. You could also try some sort of computer tech forum.

You could also try just simple things defragging your computer then trying to delete the file or check the hard drive for errors.

It might also be a problem with windows explorer, try stopping it in the task manager then starting it again by clicking on the 'new task' button and typing in 'explorer.exe' (((BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS THOUGH))) Its worked for me in the past but be careful since its kind of vital to running windows.

Where did you get the file from anyway? I might be able to assist you if you'd like (since I'm a good Samaritan and don't have anything else to do).

Nope, no luck. No matter where I am, when I tell it to delete a file, it just comes up with the "deleting file" dialog and hangs there forever. If I try deleting it from the command prompt, it just acts like it deleted it even though it didn't. If I use Killbox to try deleting it, it just says the file cannot be deleted. And my Explorer keeps on hanging and restarting for no reason. It's some serious bullshit. I don't feel like reformatting, but it looks like I might have to. What a stupid problem!

Did HijackThis (http://free.antivirus.com/hijackthis/) or malware bytes (http://www.malwarebytes.org/) tell you anything abut the file? Are you certain that it really is bad? Have you tried to delete the file in a live OS such as Fedora (http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora) or Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download)?





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaDGyVXVzB0

Why can't there be more T___T

You do. It's called depression. It comes from either being overwhelmed by your goals, or having no goals to strive towards. There really isn't any other reason anybody would want to sleep for that long. Kekekekekekeekeke. >:3

Or maybe you just have a sleeping disorder and aren't getting quality sleep for some reason. Are you tired if you wake up after eight hours of sleeping, or do you just sleep extra long because you don't see any reason to do otherwise? Five hours a day is a lot of time to waste. If you live to be 85, and continue your current sleeping habits, it'll be the same as wasting almost twenty years of your life time. Next time you reach for the snoose button, think about that! Twenty years is a lot of time to throw away just because it feels nice, right? XP

Sleeping is for the dead, Eternal! Fighting is for the living! Fight, fight, fight!
lulz. X3

i like sleeping cos i have nice dreams :) they're either really intense or super sweet. and haha really me? depression? oh my. i didnt see that coming...
when i think about it, i wouldn't mind wasting 20 years of my life sleeping. it kinda has an idk melancholy bittersweetness taste to that thought. I like people a lot. I like life a lot. I don't always like dealing with everything and I like sleep as time to myself :)
dont you?

i like sleeping cos i have nice dreams :) they're either really intense or super sweet. and haha really me? depression? oh my. i didnt see that coming...
when i think about it, i wouldn't mind wasting 20 years of my life sleeping. it kinda has an idk melancholy bittersweetness taste to that thought. I like people a lot. I like life a lot. I don't always like dealing with everything and I like sleep as time to myself :)
dont you?

When a person feels that their dreams are better than real life to the point in which they desire more sleep is a sign that they are dissatisfed with their current life and wish to find an escape, either consciously or subconsciously. It's the first cue to show if a person is suffering from depression. Normally, the most one can sleep in one session should not exceed 12 hours regularly. Beyond that point, the sleep should feel painful and undesirable.

M just said Ive been depressed for most of my life. Fuckwin.

Azn I was just being bitter, I'm running an 8800 too :P.

Japanese lesbian pr0n title: The Piano Lesson

It started out as a regular piano lesson but turned into something else... Sana sensei is your typical piano teacher who takes on a new student, but finding herself infatuated with her pupil, she decides that the lessons used for tickling the ivory should be used to tickle something else. A hypnotic yuri production with a coupling of older aggressive women teaching younger women the ways of lesbian loving

Oh Japan http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ZeroIchigo/emot-unsmith.gif

:|

oh my.

Japanese lesbian pr0n title: The Piano Lesson

It started out as a regular piano lesson but turned into something else... Sana sensei is your typical piano teacher who takes on a new student, but finding herself infatuated with her pupil, she decides that the lessons used for tickling the ivory should be used to tickle something else. A hypnotic yuri production with a coupling of older aggressive women teaching younger women the ways of lesbian loving

Oh Japan http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ZeroIchigo/emot-unsmith.gif

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7223/lesbianlove471.gif

I still can't delete that mp4 file from my desktop. = \
I tried deleting it from cmd and everything. Tried killbox, too. Nothing works. It won't go away! Scanned it with AVG, and AVG says it's clean. I think that's bullshit, for some reason.
Am I going to have to reformat my computer because of one stupid file stuck on my desktop? Doesn't Windows have a "FUCKING KILL IT WITH FIRE!" button?!

http://www.filehippo.com/download_unlocker/

usually does the trick for me.

http://www.filehippo.com/download_unlocker/

usually does the trick for me.
YES! Thank you so much, Angelic! I've been trying to delete that stupid file for like a week now, and nothing has worked. Except Unlocker, just now, hahah. What's more, it looks like whatever evil power that file held over my computer has been banished, because explorer.exe seems to be working correctly again. Thanks again for saving me like four hours of hassle I would have been caused by having to reformat and reinstall everything! =)

I've done so many reinstalls over the past weekend XD Messing around with Linux is fun, especially if everything on your laptop just works out of the box :D

When a person feels that their dreams are better than real life to the point in which they desire more sleep is a sign that they are dissatisfed with their current life and wish to find an escape, either consciously or subconsciously. It's the first cue to show if a person is suffering from depression. Normally, the most one can sleep in one session should not exceed 12 hours regularly. Beyond that point, the sleep should feel painful and undesirable.
Wow, I didn't know that :blink:

I guess in that case:

M just said Ive been depressed for most of my life. Fuckwin.
applies to me too XD

M just said Ive been depressed for most of my life. Fuckwin.
lol, I said it first! It applies to me, too, which is why my introspective self already knew what sleeping too much means. The best thing to do is to get up after eight hours of sleep regardless of what you feel like. I always feel great when I do! Besides, being depressed just means that you have some obstacles you need to tackle. You can't tackle much of anything if you're sleeping all day. Sleeping too much is a depressing death spiral into despair, lulz. =)

Running and exercise help too. It takes a lot energy to feel miserable, believe it or not. If you're exhausted, there's no way you can feel depressed. It's impossible! X3

I prefer drowning my sarrows in booze and women.

I don't think she minds sleeping too much ♥ http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1160/2289c4ae36fb66e0456aec4.jpg

Wow, I didn't know that :blink:

I guess in that case:

applies to me too XD

Well, there's the polar side of things too. For instance, I don't sleep much at all. If I'm lucky I get six hours, but most times I sleep only four, and, sometimes, I don't sleep at all. This is a sign that I have too much mental fatigue and have high stress levels that will likely take years off of my life.

Yikes...I guess I know what you mean by that. There was a time when I was only getting like 3-4 hours of sleep a day.

Also, and this is probably the only time you'll ever see me use this word.
Shit. I got hit with the Antispyware Soft virus...

I don't know where it came from or when I got it. All I know is that several minutes ago, it was fine (I'm on my desktop by the way...the laptop's the one that got hit). So uh, I've been reading up a few tutorials on how to remove it, I plan to do each and every single one of them. Hopefully it'll be gone.

Oh, and for good measure, I'm also planning on backing up every single one of my files (the ones I need anyways like school stuff, anime, music, etc.) and then doing a system restore. Should I do it or is it unnecessary? You can't really be too sure...especially in my case, it's pretty much the first time I got hit with a virus like this (and usually, we just normally reformat the entire thing >>;; )
Yeah, this is pretty much also the first time I'm trying to REMOVE it than nuke my laptop.

Viruses are serious, but normally not lethal to your computer's data. Simply removing the infected files should be sufficient. If you want to be safe, you can do all of the removal guides, but doing one from an authority (McAffe, Trendmicro, Symantic...) The problem with Antispyware Soft is that it's a seeking virus, meaning that if a network device is discoverable, it will try to spread to that system. So, what likely happened is that you have network file sharing or network discovery turned on and someone entered your network domain and it cross-infected your machine.

Viruses are serious, but normally not lethal to your computer's data. Simply removing the infected files should be sufficient. If you want to be safe, you can do all of the removal guides, but doing one from an authority (McAffe, Trendmicro, Symantic...) The problem with Antispyware Soft is that it's a seeking virus, meaning that if a network device is discoverable, it will try to spread to that system. So, what likely happened is that you have network file sharing or network discovery turned on and someone entered your network domain and it cross-infected your machine.
That's most likely what happened. The past two days, my brother was experimenting with wireless printing + I was sharing files with a friend of mine for a project of ours.
But if that was the case, then it might've been the latter. I should tell her to check if her computer's fine.

I had AVG installed on my laptop for a long time now (full version, not the demo), I don't exactly know how it managed to slip through and infect my laptop but I managed to disable it from running right now (something about safe mode and disabling it from the startup processes or something). I also downloaded Malwarebytes and am now in the process of scanning the laptop. It found 1 infected file so far.

I suppose the fact that it's been disabled (disabled but still lurking in my laptop) means any threat of spreading or getting worse is gone...after my Malwarebytes scan/delete to make sure it's gone, I'll start backing up everything and just do a complete wipe. It's no big deal, I have all the installers for the programs I've ever had somewhere in there anyways. It's just a matter of saving everything before I do it.

EDIT: I just went through 3-4 different solutions and it's still there. I'm going to try a System Restore (I plan to roll it back to 3-4 days ago) and if that still doesn't work, I'll do a complete reformat.
I'd do the format right now if I could. My brother is at work right now and I'm pretty sure he'd want to keep his files too >_>
So I'll only do the system restore for now


EDIT2: I THINK that fixed it. I mean I don't see the .exe on msconfig anymore and my laptop's running smoothly once again. I'm doing a scan with AVG right now just in case. Hopefully, it's gone

From my personal experience, AVG really is shit. Not nearly as bad as synaptic, but it's certainly does not do it's job that well for preventing intrusions. In fact, very few antivirus clients have a good on-demand scanner. The only one I truly liked was NOD32, but I'm too cheap to pay for the client. Instead, I don't use antivirus clients anymore and instead do weekly scans using tools like hijackthis or malwarebytes and manually kill any infection. So far, it's proven to be successful.

AVG loads its "first time wizard" EVERY SINGLE FREAKING TIME I OPEN AN ATTACHMENT.

From my personal experience, AVG really is shit. Not nearly as bad as synaptic, but it's certainly does not do it's job that well for preventing intrusions. In fact, very few antivirus clients have a good on-demand scanner. The only one I truly liked was NOD32, but I'm too cheap to pay for the client. Instead, I don't use antivirus clients anymore and instead do weekly scans using tools like hijackthis or malwarebytes and manually kill any infection. So far, it's proven to be successful.

I dunno, this has been the first time AVG failed me. It always kept my computer virus-free...but regardless should I keep Malwarebytes running alongside AVG? or would that cause interference? I don't really know how to manually kill infections as I've said before I normally just reformat it whenever I get a virus.

@Mushy: Really? it doesn't happen to me

Meh, seems to be only associated with MSN...

Time to program!

it's been time to program for the past 5 hours for me @___@

It's been "Install a OS on a failing hardrive" time for me :D

it's been time to program for the past 5 hours for me @___@
Heh, I know the feeling. :heh:

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKRHiue2sIM&feature=related
I love that opening. Soooo cool. =D
Especially 1:04-1:20. I think the singers voice (and the animation going along with them) are ridiculously awesome. I really think the guys who made that OP are a bunch of geniuses, hahah!

More genius animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tFRL2uh0q0
The whole clip is good, but 3:00-3:20 stands out from the rest. It looks like one of the senior artists on the team said "I'm doing these twenty seconds by myself, and I'm going to make them AWESOME," and proceeded to shoo all of the lesser inbetweeners out of the room. Anyway, whoever is responsible for 3:00-3:20 is an animation god. I want to meet him and tell him that I appreciate his hard work, heheh. X3

one class short of completion
:(

oh well

From my personal experience, AVG really is shit. Not nearly as bad as synaptic, but it's certainly does not do it's job that well for preventing intrusions. In fact, very few antivirus clients have a good on-demand scanner. The only one I truly liked was NOD32, but I'm too cheap to pay for the client. Instead, I don't use antivirus clients anymore and instead do weekly scans using tools like hijackthis or malwarebytes and manually kill any infection. So far, it's proven to be successful.

From my personal experience AVG is better than most virusscanners (like Norton and Mcafee) but Nod32 is the one I'd recommend to anyone.

Ooh, maybe I should switch to that then...maybe the next time I get hit with a virus again, which I don't think will happen anymore. I just gotta figure out how it got in then I can make sure I(or I suspect, my brother) won't do it again.

Also, wow after like 2-3 months of not touching my guitar...I lost my skills D:
I gotta regain them T-T

Avira and Comodo have been under my service for a few years now.
They're free, quick, and powerful, not to mention very clean and professional-looking (other than Avira's occasional pop-up ads that come up once or twice a day, but hey - I can live with it).


Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKRHiue2sIM&feature=related
I love that opening. Soooo cool. =D
Especially 1:04-1:20. I think the singers voice (and the animation going along with them) are ridiculously awesome. I really think the guys who made that OP are a bunch of geniuses, hahah! Mmmm, this is pretty tasty. I love the little arms and legs crawling out of those eyes. And the song has great energy too!

I've found Comodo to be a pretty good firewall (paranoid mode ftw!XD), and avast is the best anti virus in my opinion that I've come across so far.

And I am now officially diagnosed with CBF. Teacher said this chapter in the work book would only take about half an hour........been working straight for 2 hours..... :\

Common Sense 2k10

Which probably means I have a ton of crap on my drive, but the main thing im worried about right now is still needing a new case and cleaning/replacing my HSF: :S

i want a new HSF to replace my stock :(

and maybe a case taht is less of a dust magnet
although i'm ok with my current one

edit:
and some stupid noob next to me in teh comp lab is sadly unknowing of linux.

friend came over and was like "oh you're in that weird lie-nux thingie (pronounced it lie-nukz)"
"i don't know how to use this, it's so confusing it doesn't work"
especially when she's trying to open a word document does it occur to use the thing that is clearly labelled...oh i don't know...WORD PROCESSOR? -sigh- some people....

I've found Comodo to be a pretty good firewall (paranoid mode ftw!XD), and avast is the best anti virus in my opinion that I've come across so far.

And I am now officially diagnosed with CBF. Teacher said this chapter in the work book would only take about half an hour........been working straight for 2 hours..... :\

But it's so much easier to stop it right at the router with an iptable rule. Then, your computer doesn't need a firewall, and everyone within your domain is protected. That's actually how I handle blocking ad sites (no plugins necessary).

Ooh, maybe I should switch to that then...maybe the next time I get hit with a virus again, which I don't think will happen anymore. I just gotta figure out how it got in then I can make sure I(or I suspect, my brother) won't do it again.

Also, wow after like 2-3 months of not touching my guitar...I lost my skills D:
I gotta regain them T-T

You play guitar? :3

Yep, I do =)

Me too XD Well, just started with lessons a month ago or so. What do you play? I play electric, got a low budget Fender model but it's good for beginners :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/aboot/Guitar.jpg

I play both acoustic (Art et Lutherie Cedar) (http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/681/25602.jpg) and electric (Ibanez RG370DX) (http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6195/c385735image0.jpg)

I'm starting to think the Ibanez isn't for me though...it doesn't really play smoothly for me (or maybe because I still need to configure it...) but either way, I might look into a Fender, like the one you have =3

This Ibanez guitar is really meant for heavy metal/hard rock and well suited for shredding and sweeps...which I don't really do much of/don't know how to do. BUT, I do play the occasional song where overdrive/heavy distortion is needed and when I play songs like that, I get reminded why I like this guitar XD
I'll still be looking for another guitar though...an all-rounder of sorts

EDIT: I also want to buy a Bass guitar sometime. AND an electric drum set (but I don't really have the money for them XD)

I need to get my guitar's setup checked though, the three lower strings vibrate against the fretboard and it's getting worse x_x

Neko, which model is that? I was thinking of getting a budget guitar myself so I can record authentic sounds into DAWs instead of using soundpacks with a keyboard. And to learn some electric guitar on the side.

I need to get my guitar's setup checked though, the three lower strings vibrate against the fretboard and it's getting worse x_x

Chances are your Truss rod is too tight. http://www.taylorguitars.com/global/pdfs/truss_rod_adjustment.pdf

If that doesn't work, try raising your bridge a little bit. (Loosen the screws on both sides of your bridge. I don't know how your guitar is right now, so this may or may not help).

Anyways, here is my baby. Crappy phone pictures anyways.

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq43/GeckosGoMoo/521412583_1839188649_499928828_1272.jpg

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq43/GeckosGoMoo/521413005_1839190235_0.jpg

It was originally an ESP Viper 50, but I threw in EMG pickups (60/81). I love their sound. They're crunchy as hell with distortion, and my neck pick up is soooo bluesy when it's clean. Alot of neck pick ups sound all dampered, but this pick up sounds so clean.

When a person feels that their dreams are better than real life to the point in which they desire more sleep is a sign that they are dissatisfed with their current life and wish to find an escape, either consciously or subconsciously. It's the first cue to show if a person is suffering from depression. Normally, the most one can sleep in one session should not exceed 12 hours regularly. Beyond that point, the sleep should feel painful and undesirable.

reaaaallyyy.... wow go figure. im depressed? haha are you sure its not cos im sleep deprived and i needa catch up on sleep due to stress and overstudying? I kinda like people. I dont wanna kill myself either. and i love sunshine?

:O ive always wanted to learn how to play the guitar. but i think the ukulele is more suited for me lol.
I HAVE A HAWAIIAN ROOMATE! wiiin

of course my final project is to write a tic tac toe program

of course my final project is to write a tic tac toe program

>_<

Write it in brainfuck (http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf/). At least that way will be a challenge.

lol, of course i have to keep a running dictionary of previous games so the program "learns as the game goes on"

:O ive always wanted to learn how to play the guitar. but i think the ukulele is more suited for me lol.
I HAVE A HAWAIIAN ROOMATE! wiiin

It's never too late to start and it's not a hard thing to learn either :3
Ukulele? ...small hands? o.O

:O ive always wanted to learn how to play the guitar. but i think the ukulele is more suited for me lol.
*High fives Eternal*
Obviously the stringed instrument of choice for us cool people. XD
Actually, I like violin, guitar, and ukulele equally, hahah. I'll probably learn ukulele first, though!

hurrah for random choice AI that has no clue how to play tic tac toe \o/
now to make it capable of LEARNING >: D

hurrah for random choice AI that has no clue how to play tic tac toe \o/
now to make it capable of LEARNING >: D

Markov! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Markov_model) Unless the math for that is too hard, which then there's always a form of Bayesian Network that you could work off of (but it'd be deterministic). At least it's better than George Luger's concept of filtered AI.

*High fives Eternal*
Obviously the stringed instrument of choice for us cool people. XD
Actually, I like violin, guitar, and ukulele equally, hahah. I'll probably learn ukulele first, though!

Ukuleles generally don't sound as... awesome as guitars (the noise of the ukulele gets drowned out by virtually everything else)... I'm not sure if there are electric ones, but it's really hard to get sounds out >_<

Also, ukuleles sound happy no matter what you're playing.

Chances are your Truss rod is too tight. http://www.taylorguitars.com/global/pdfs/truss_rod_adjustment.pdf

If that doesn't work, try raising your bridge a little bit. (Loosen the screws on both sides of your bridge. I don't know how your guitar is right now, so this may or may not help).

Anyways, here is my baby. Crappy phone pictures anyways.

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq43/GeckosGoMoo/521412583_1839188649_499928828_1272.jpg

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq43/GeckosGoMoo/521413005_1839190235_0.jpg

It was originally an ESP Viper 50, but I threw in EMG pickups (60/81). I love their sound. They're crunchy as hell with distortion, and my neck pick up is soooo bluesy when it's clean. Alot of neck pick ups sound all dampered, but this pick up sounds so clean.

When I push down the low E-string on the lowest and the highest fret, it touches all the frets inbetween. I guess I found my problem, now to solve it XD

Think I'll take it to a guitar shop to see if they can help me. Don't like the idea of ruining my guitar, lol.

Ukuleles generally don't sound as... awesome as guitars (the noise of the ukulele gets drowned out by virtually everything else)... I'm not sure if there are electric ones, but it's really hard to get sounds out >_<

Also, ukuleles sound happy no matter what you're playing.

Put a capo on the 12th fret of a guitar, voila...ukulele

There are electric ukuleles, I've played one before. The sound is a bit more full than a regular, but if you really want it like the guitar then ...^

*Shrugs* Clarinets FTW?

All this strings talk :P

haha, yeah.

Strings. Hiss.

Ukuleles generally don't sound as... awesome as guitars (the noise of the ukulele gets drowned out by virtually everything else)... I'm not sure if there are electric ones, but it's really hard to get sounds out >_<
There are different sized ukuleles, you know? I don't know what they'd be drowned out by, unless you're playing in a rock band or something. I'll be picking up a tenor ukulele:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k
They sound fuller than the soprano ukulele everyone knows, but they still sound happier than guitar. A good trade off, I think.

*Shrugs* Clarinets FTW?

All this strings talk :P

I would side with you on that one but since I play both strings and winds.................:heh:

I'm finally getting a time delay pedal for my guitar, been wanting one for ages............and I think my friend wants the one I borrowed from him 'x' months ago back now:think:

And since people are posting their guitars, here's my precious :)

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab293/Taemond/DSCF6013.jpg

My phone camera really doesn't do it justice, and the lighting is a little weird...........and ignore my cat that just happened to be under the cupboard at the time.

Chances are your Truss rod is too tight. http://www.taylorguitars.com/global/pdfs/truss_rod_adjustment.pdf

If that doesn't work, try raising your bridge a little bit. (Loosen the screws on both sides of your bridge. I don't know how your guitar is right now, so this may or may not help).

Anyways, here is my baby. Crappy phone pictures anyways.

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq43/GeckosGoMoo/521412583_1839188649_499928828_1272.jpg

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq43/GeckosGoMoo/521413005_1839190235_0.jpg

It was originally an ESP Viper 50, but I threw in EMG pickups (60/81). I love their sound. They're crunchy as hell with distortion, and my neck pick up is soooo bluesy when it's clean. Alot of neck pick ups sound all dampered, but this pick up sounds so clean.

I messed around a bit with that stuff, it seems a lot better now, thanks :D

I messed around a bit with that stuff, it seems a lot better now, thanks :D

Cool, glad I could help. I've never brought my guitar to a shop before. I think I'd only bring it to a shop if I physically broke something on it. I did all the rewiring for my pickups myself, it really isn't too difficult. Guitars are pretty simple, you just need to take the time to learn a little bit about their structure and what not. Anyways, I had a problem with my low E string buzzing a while ago. Turns out it had just worn into the nut groove really badly (That little groove the string sets in before the tuning pegs) I ended up sticking a tiny bit of a tooth pick in the nut groove to hold it up a bit better xD.

Does anyone here play baseball? How long did it take you to learn a decent fastball? I've been practicing for a week now, and I still throw it fucking three feet away from the plate half the time. I'm starting to think that maybe I'm just really uncoordinated, hahah.

xD, i'm moderately sure it takes more than a week of practice to get a good fastball that consistently goes over the plate.

if you're throwing it so far off the plate, check your release

Does anyone here play baseball? How long did it take you to learn a decent fastball? I've been practicing for a week now, and I still throw it fucking three feet away from the plate half the time. I'm starting to think that maybe I'm just really uncoordinated, hahah.

Took me a good month of training to throw a straight fastball. Like azn said, it's not easy to throw a ball consistently, and some try for years to obtain satisfactory results.

And now for the questions that need to be filled in:

Are you throwing over, under, or side arm?
Are you following a particular form, or are you just throwing the ball? If form, what type of training have you done for it?
Are you using your dominant leg as support and your other as counter balance for your throw?
Are you following through with your throw after the release? If so, are your eyes following the ball, or the follow through?
How much of the ball are you gripping and where exactly are you gripping the ball? Using how many fingers?
In a game of catch, how many times do you miss your partner? How many times do you not make it to your partner?

over
probably wrong
yes and mostly ball but I can catch myself looking at my hand sometimes
just throwing no idea
see above
Often, I have a self diagnosed depth perception problem; retarded eyes.

havent thrown an actual baseball in a couple years tho :S

Haha, is there anything M can't do? 0.0

Swallow the sun?

divide by zero?

Took me a good month of training to throw a straight fastball. Like azn said, it's not easy to throw a ball consistently, and some try for years to obtain satisfactory results.
Alright, good. It feels like that's about how long it'll take me too. It feels really slow, especially since you can only pitch so many times a day. It's a little frustrating, hahah.

# Are you throwing over, under, or side arm?
Over.

# Are you following a particular form, or are you just throwing the ball? If form, what type of training have you done for it?
I'm winding up and such. I figure it'll help my muscle memory if I wind up every time. As for form, I'm just going by what my friend has shown me. Keeping my arms wide and such, or trying to. He keeps on telling me I'm keeping my arms too close to my body. It's probably because throwing correctly KILLS MY ARM and my body is instinctively trying to save my poor elbow. I'm sure it won't be as bad when I get my form down, but for now, throwing it 'correctly' feels like I'm going to break my arm in half after any extended pitching session, hahah.

# Are you using your dominant leg as support and your other as counter balance for your throw?
Trying to!

# Are you following through with your throw after the release? If so, are your eyes following the ball, or the follow through?
Again, trying to. My friend told me to 'look through the catcher' and to keep my head level. When I actually follow his advice, things go more smoothly. Sadly, when I get even a little tired, my form starts to fall apart, hahah. My arm always ends up past my left leg after a throw (I'm right handed), so I think I'm following through enough.

# How much of the ball are you gripping and where exactly are you gripping the ball? Using how many fingers?
I'm practicing four-seam fastballs right now. Two fingers and thumb, lol.

# In a game of catch, how many times do you miss your partner? How many times do you not make it to your partner?
I have trouble throwing it over the plate consistently, but my friend can almost always catch my balls without moving his feet. He does, however, need to move his arm a lot, hahah. My distance sucks. I'm going to ask him to start playing some long range catch with me (no arcing), and see if I can't improve my distance. My form is terrible, which is why my pitches have no power behind them. I'm easily stronger than my friend, but he throws across the god damned field, and I throw like sixty feet. ;___;

So, hopefully I can throw something decent in a month or so. I'd like to play with my friends by July or so, but I'm terrible right now, heheh. How fast is your fastball, roughly, M? After your form shaped up, was there a big difference in speed from when you started, or was it mostly just your control that improved in a month? I'm hoping I'll be throwing a lot faster soon, because my fastball really is ridiculously slow right now.

The worst thing about this is that if I want to pitch every day, I figure I can only pitch 20-30 serious pitches a day. If I could pitch as long as I wanted without hurting my arm, I'd just pitch for five hours straight a day and get this initial learning hump over with. Right now, it's not fun for my friend, because he throws me all awesome ~80 mph pitches straight down the plate for me over and over again when I'm at bat, and then I repay him by throwing him all ridiculous balls or 10mph "fast"balls. So, I'd like to fix my control and speed as soon as possible!

Anyone play Plants vs Zombies?

chea, awesome game. never finished it though.

you eventually just get used to throwing alot of pitches. I was never a really good pitcher tho :|. It takes a while to learn.

Over.

This form of pitching takes the longest to perfect, but it provides the most powerful pitches from the get go. The good news it that almost everyone does it, so you're likely to find lots of help on the subject matter.


I'm winding up and such. I figure it'll help my muscle memory if I wind up every time. As for form, I'm just going by what my friend has shown me. Keeping my arms wide and such, or trying to. He keeps on telling me I'm keeping my arms too close to my body. It's probably because throwing correctly KILLS MY ARM and my body is instinctively trying to save my poor elbow. I'm sure it won't be as bad when I get my form down, but for now, throwing it 'correctly' feels like I'm going to break my arm in half after any extended pitching session, hahah.

Sounds like you're doing the classic pitching form. When you do this right, your body should feel like a spring. Taking the mit and glove down, stretching your pitching arm up as high as you can (releases tension), dragging it down while flexing the muscle, dragging the arm backward with your shoulder and waist, pushing upward with your elbow and start to twist around the waist, and pushing with your body weight and biceps the ball allowing all the control to be done with your wrist and fingers. On the follow through, using the leg that's on the same side as your pitching arm to counterbalance and continuing the throw motion with your arm until it reaches your leg.

That should cause the least amount of strain on your body, as you follow the pattern of stretching, flex, strain, slow release, repeat.



Trying to!

This is bad. Don't do this. Use your other leg as your support.


Again, trying to. My friend told me to 'look through the catcher' and to keep my head level. When I actually follow his advice, things go more smoothly. Sadly, when I get even a little tired, my form starts to fall apart, hahah. My arm always ends up past my left leg after a throw (I'm right handed), so I think I'm following through enough.

Good. A funny thing about a human's psychology is that wherever a person may look, is where the person's intentions go. If you're looking through the pitcher, that means that you're psychologically prepared.


I'm practicing four-seam fastballs right now. Two fingers and thumb, lol.

Finger's on the seams or on the pads? How deep is the ball in your hand?


I have trouble throwing it over the plate consistently, but my friend can almost always catch my balls without moving his feet. He does, however, need to move his arm a lot, hahah. My distance sucks. I'm going to ask him to start playing some long range catch with me (no arcing), and see if I can't improve my distance. My form is terrible, which is why my pitches have no power behind them. I'm easily stronger than my friend, but he throws across the god damned field, and I throw like sixty feet. ;___;

The best workout for increasing your distance is using band training to increase the muscle mass, and practising balance. Take a resistance band and lock one of it's ends on a stable surface. Then take the other end with your pitching fingers and slowly go through the throwing part of your form.

For balance, try placing a bunch of weight down on one of your sides and stand on a beam with your pivot foot.


So, hopefully I can throw something decent in a month or so. I'd like to play with my friends by July or so, but I'm terrible right now, heheh. How fast is your fastball, roughly, M? After your form shaped up, was there a big difference in speed from when you started, or was it mostly just your control that improved in a month? I'm hoping I'll be throwing a lot faster soon, because my fastball really is ridiculously slow right now.

My fastball sucks because I used to throw sidearm, which can do techniques easier, but is not very fast. When I started using a form, my speed did not increase, but my control did, allowing me to curve the ball far too much (went from half a bat to a full bat curve; allowing my curves to beam the batter). For a speed, I averaged at about .55 of a second to the plate, making it about 70 MPH. My fastest was 75 MPH, but I could only throw about four of those a game, and then I was done.

By the way, never throw sidearm. It kills your shoulder a lot more.


The worst thing about this is that if I want to pitch every day, I figure I can only pitch 20-30 serious pitches a day. If I could pitch as long as I wanted without hurting my arm, I'd just pitch for five hours straight a day and get this initial learning hump over with. Right now, it's not fun for my friend, because he throws me all awesome ~80 mph pitches straight down the plate for me over and over again when I'm at bat, and then I repay him by throwing him all ridiculous balls or 10mph "fast"balls. So, I'd like to fix my control and speed as soon as possible!

That's a muscular and stretching problem. Do the earlier mentioned exercises and you'll be fine after a while.

Anyone play Plants vs Zombies?

Finished it some time ago, need to install it again.

oh yeah i completely forgot that
there should be space between your palm and the ball when you hold the baseball.

moving it back is more for changeups (which is not a bad thing to master, changeups work wonders), but yeah it should be closer to your tips, not completely tips, but not back in your hand

i was always a 3/4 pitcher, not overhand :)



MAAAAN it's been a long time since i played baseball roflmao
i was always utility or pinch runner, cuz i ran fast but i wasn't that great of a batter (although i was small, so it was harder sometimes to get it in my strike zone \o/)

Plants vs Zombies?

Heehee, straight A's for my Spring sem in Uni :D
(technically 2 A-'s and an A+ but regardless, it's still a bunch of A's :3)

Time to celebrate, that's probably the last time I'll be getting those grades again XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SKZh0x4hpM

BREAK DOWN, SHE'S BREAKING DOWN!

yay 10.04 LTS was released today
unfortunately everyone else knew that and thus the download servers are swarmed making my download so much slower than it normally is :(

oh well, i got all night for this update

Jeeeeeesus Chriiiiiiist Suuuuperstaaaaar :music:

Sounds like you're doing the classic pitching form. When you do this right, your body should feel like a spring. Taking the mit and glove down, stretching your pitching arm up as high as you can (releases tension), dragging it down while flexing the muscle, dragging the arm backward with your shoulder and waist, pushing upward with your elbow and start to twist around the waist, and pushing with your body weight and biceps the ball allowing all the control to be done with your wrist and fingers. On the follow through, using the leg that's on the same side as your pitching arm to counterbalance and continuing the throw motion with your arm until it reaches your leg.

That should cause the least amount of strain on your body, as you follow the pattern of stretching, flex, strain, slow release, repeat.
Indeed, when I get lucky and everything comes together, I feel like a giant spring, and the ball goes straight and much faster than usual. I'm going to practice a little bit more tomorrow, focusing on loosening up a little. When I overthink things, my timing goes to shit, and nothing works out right, hahah.

This is bad. Don't do this. Use your other leg as your support.
Eh...by dominant leg, I meant my left, since it's always been my stronger leg, and it's the leg I kick with in soccer in things. We might be talking about different legs. I start on my right foot, letting my left leg come up during my wind up. I start turning my body and my left leg to face more towards the plate, and try to release as I plant my left leg in front of me. I follow through with my right leg up in the air a bit, my throwing arm past my left leg. Or at least, that's what happens when I time everything right. I'm a pretty awkward pitcher right now.

Good. A funny thing about a human's psychology is that wherever a person may look, is where the person's intentions go. If you're looking through the pitcher, that means that you're psychologically prepared.
Yeah, when my friend noticed my aim was off, he gave me that piece of my advice, and my next ball flew straight into his mitt. Then I thought "holy shit, it works!" and my concentration was shot for the rest of the day and I could barely pitch straight anymore. Like I said, I'm going to try and loosen up tomorrow by myself. It's harder to concentrate when I feel like I'm wasting my friend's time. XP

Finger's on the seams or on the pads? How deep is the ball in your hand?
Index and ring across the seams, thumb on the pad underneath, in the middle of the two of them. Completely out of my palm.

The best workout for increasing your distance is using band training to increase the muscle mass, and practising balance. Take a resistance band and lock one of it's ends on a stable surface. Then take the other end with your pitching fingers and slowly go through the throwing part of your form.

For balance, try placing a bunch of weight down on one of your sides and stand on a beam with your pivot foot.

Like I said, my arms are about twice as big as my friends, so I'm not sure muscle mass is a problem...maybe muscle coordination or arm flexibility or something though. I've read that the bands are good, so I may give them a try. I think I probably just need to work on my flexibility, though. Is my pivot foot the foot I land on? That's the foot that pivots as I'm following through, so I'm assuming it is...

My fastball sucks because I used to throw sidearm, which can do techniques easier, but is not very fast. When I started using a form, my speed did not increase, but my control did, allowing me to curve the ball far too much (went from half a bat to a full bat curve; allowing my curves to beam the batter). For a speed, I averaged at about .55 of a second to the plate, making it about 70 MPH. My fastest was 75 MPH, but I could only throw about four of those a game, and then I was done.
I'd be very happy throwing 70 right now, hahah. Did you reach 70 after a month and then improve more slowly after that? Is pitching an "easy to learn, impossible to master" kind of thing, where you get better very quickly at the beginning and then plateau? Or is pitching something that you just get slowly better at, even at the beginning? Again, I ask because I'd like to play with my friends this summer, and it'd be great if I was a semi-competent thrower by then.

By the way, never throw sidearm. It kills your shoulder a lot more.
Indeed, I've heard.

That's a muscular and stretching problem. Do the earlier mentioned exercises and you'll be fine after a while.
Yeah, I think pitching is using some muscles I didn't really know I had. My biggest problem is definitely my flexibility though; it's terrible.

Thanks for the advice, M.



oh yeah i completely forgot that
there should be space between your palm and the ball when you hold the baseball.

moving it back is more for changeups (which is not a bad thing to master, changeups work wonders), but yeah it should be closer to your tips, not completely tips, but not back in your hand

i was always a 3/4 pitcher, not overhand
Hai, so I've learned. Thank you, Google. XD
All of my pitches are changeups right now, hahah.

MAAAAN it's been a long time since i played baseball roflmao
i was always utility or pinch runner, cuz i ran fast but i wasn't that great of a batter (although i was small, so it was harder sometimes to get it in my strike zone \o/)
I'm small too! Take that, enemy pitchers!

Eh...by dominant leg, I meant my left, since it's always been my stronger leg, and it's the leg I kick with in soccer in things. We might be talking about different legs. I start on my right foot, letting my left leg come up during my wind up. I start turning my body and my left leg to face more towards the plate, and try to release as I plant my left leg in front of me. I follow through with my right leg up in the air a bit, my throwing arm past my left leg. Or at least, that's what happens when I time everything right. I'm a pretty awkward pitcher right now.

Ah, so you step forward when pitching.

What I was writing about was basically if you were to keep one leg in one spot and using your waist for the twist. With this, the "dominant" leg is the leg from the same side as your pitching hand, which is used for counterbalancing the twist after the pitch. The pivot leg is the other leg which you twist around. Thus, when you wind for a pitch, you raise your pivot leg, and then during the throw, you switch legs and pivot over the planted foot, using your dominate leg for counterbalance.

So, if you're pitching left handed, you got this right. Otherwise, you're backwards.


Index and ring across the seams, thumb on the pad underneath, in the middle of the two of them. Completely out of my palm.

Very good. Most make the mistake that azn mentioned which is to pack the ball all the way in the hand. That kills a lot of the backspin needed to throw a good fastball.


Like I said, my arms are about twice as big as my friends, so I'm not sure muscle mass is a problem...maybe muscle coordination or arm flexibility or something though. I've read that the bands are good, so I may give them a try. I think I probably just need to work on my flexibility, though. Is my pivot foot the foot I land on? That's the foot that pivots as I'm following through, so I'm assuming it is...

The pivot foot is the foot I described earlier as being planted during the pitch.


I'd be very happy throwing 70 right now, hahah. Did you reach 70 after a month and then improve more slowly after that? Is pitching an "easy to learn, impossible to master" kind of thing, where you get better very quickly at the beginning and then plateau? Or is pitching something that you just get slowly better at, even at the beginning? Again, I ask because I'd like to play with my friends this summer, and it'd be great if I was a semi-competent thrower by then.

I reached 70 after about a year of playing (I can't remember what I originally threw at for comparison), and then I hit my plateau.

Pitching is very much an impossible to master thing, as a body can only do so many in it's lifetime. And, like any sport, the more you do something, the less you will be able to do it in the future, and the better you will become at it.

Ah, so you step forward when pitching.

What I was writing about was basically if you were to keep one leg in one spot and using your waist for the twist. With this, the "dominant" leg is the leg from the same side as your pitching hand, which is used for counterbalancing the twist after the pitch. The pivot leg is the other leg which you twist around. Thus, when you wind for a pitch, you raise your pivot leg, and then during the throw, you switch legs and pivot over the planted foot, using your dominate leg for counterbalance.

So, if you're pitching left handed, you got this right. Otherwise, you're backwards.
???? Don't I have it right? I throw right handed, with my left foot pivoting, my right leg acting as counterbalance during my follow-through.

I reached 70 after about a year of playing (I can't remember what I originally threw at for comparison), and then I hit my plateau.
Bleargh, that's what I was afraid of. Ah well, I'll just keep practicing and hope for the best, I guess. Even if I just get my control to be solid, I guess that's good enough for the Summer.

Pitching is very much an impossible to master thing, as a body can only do so many in it's lifetime. And, like any sport, the more you do something, the less you will be able to do it in the future, and the better you will become at it.
Indeed. This is why we need robo-bodies. Dying after only a hundred years of drawing, pitching, and screwing around is super lame.

man, i'm getting infractions from all sides.

and how in the world didn't this guy (http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=443388&postcount=29) get one? :(

man, i'm getting infractions from all sides.

and how in the world didn't this guy (http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=443388&postcount=29) get one? :(

Infractions are a private matter. No one is supposed to know when someone gets an infraction and not. Only when the user that receives the infraction talks about it does the staff discuss the matter in the open. Cody very well could have obtained an infraction. But until he talks about it, we will not discuss this in the open.

if no-one's supposed to know, why does the post get a glaring red tab showing they received an infraction?

Infractions are viewable by the moderation team and the person receiving the infraction only. If you were to log in as someone else, you would be unable to see the red flag. No different to how I have 4 icons by the online light and that I can see everyone's online status regardless of how you remark it in your profile, and how I have the ability to edit your posts, while others cannot.

Oh, didn't know you couldn't see other people's. That's a little silly isn't it? Let the public see them so they don't do it as well.

Oh, didn't know you couldn't see other people's. That's a little silly isn't it? Let the public see them so they don't do it as well.


man, i'm getting infractions from all sides.

and how in the world didn't this guy (http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=443388&postcount=29) get one? :(

I think your own actions have shown why we don't do it.

I have cool infractions!

But they're all in my past, I'm boring now. :(

I got one for doing the evil rick roll. That was epic is a bad way.

I never got one. And if I did I'd reverse it since I can. Oooh, I'm so corrupt. Speaking which, M, I haven't received any money from you this month. Care to explain?

Maybe you haven't been putting out, Angelic.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Speaking which, M, I haven't received any money from you this month. Care to explain?
Reminded me of:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/153/davenwayne.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7691/slapo.gif
Gotta keep that hand strong!

I never got one. And if I did I'd reverse it since I can. Oooh, I'm so corrupt. Speaking which, M, I haven't received any money from you this month. Care to explain?

Check your other account. Remember, we're trying to keep this a secret ;)

Maybe you haven't been putting out, Angelic.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

/bitchslap

>.>

I think all my infractions are from Angelic. XD

Maybe you haven't been putting out, Angelic.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

/bitchslap

>.>


http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7691/slapo.gif

Threw over a hundred pitches today, and saw some good improvement. I'm really happy.
I watched a bunch of videos of pitchers in slow motion and then copied them (in slow motion) like a hundred times. Then I did it faster and faster. It helped a lot, and I can't wait to pitch some more tomorrow. =D
I wasn't extending my back arm enough, at all, lol. Or my front arm...
Icing right now. XD

I watched 20 episodes of Detective Conan today.

Damn.

Which episodes? Not the whole Clash of Red and Black was it? :o


Threw over a hundred pitches today, and saw some good improvement. I'm really happy.
I watched a bunch of videos of pitchers in slow motion and then copied them (in slow motion) like a hundred times. Then I did it faster and faster. It helped a lot, and I can't wait to pitch some more tomorrow. =D
I wasn't extending my back arm enough, at all, lol. Or my front arm...
Icing right now. XD

Speaking of Baseball and speaking of Conan, you might enjoy this two-hour special. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYnjoHeAdT4) Two hours worth of intense baseball AND deductive reasoning. :sherlock:

You people are weird... and now I'm in a Monty Python mood... *wanders off to look for his Holy Grail dvd*

Speaking of Baseball and speaking of Conan, you might enjoy this two-hour special. Two hours worth of intense baseball AND deductive reasoning.
What?! Baseball AND mystery solving?! What kind of ridiculously awesome special is this?!!
I'll check it out soon, hahah.

Which episodes? Not the whole Clash of Red and Black was it? :o

Starting from 31 up to 51. Nothing all that exciting. Just the villa bandaged man case, Fire Festival Case, Conan's kidnapping case, and the library murder case. I'm trying to get up to episode 500, but I never seem to have the time to get there T__T

You people are weird... and now I'm in a Monty Python mood... *wanders off to look for his Holy Grail dvd*

Tried to watch that like 17times now, can never do it.

I fart in your general direction!

angelicc we needa have more long convos like the other day! :D

maff was rape. had an allergy sneeze attack during econ and messed up like the last 20 questions

Then you should be online earlier because I don't intend to be online at 3 every night, that one time was an exception :P

I just found out I lost my save file for plants vs zombies.

and feeding frenzy doesn't work on my comp. aww, wanted to play some casual games :(

Casual games are for chumps -_-. Go HARDCORE XD!!!!!!!! :P

And after much influencing (bribery), I managed to convince mum to let me go down to the local racing grounds in our new sports car...........:shifty:

well i'm considering buying a psp for monster hunter. I'm scared to do it at the same time though.

and shouldn't you be in bed?

Casual games are for chumps -_-. Go HARDCORE XD!!!!!!!! :P

And after much influencing (bribery), I managed to convince mum to let me go down to the local racing grounds in our new sports car...........:shifty:

Define "sports car"

Define "sports car"
Infiniti g37?

Infiniti g37?

Someone called? :P

Someone called?
That depends. Were you planning on letting me drive you, baby? ;D

SHOT GUN!

Define "sports car"

Well, its not really a sports car:heh: But if you're like me and your family has owned only station wagons and hatches your whole life, its nice to have something sporty. Its only a Holden SV6, but still..................fun will ensure:shifty:

I'll post some pictures in the car thread if I can find the camera :think:

Ah, how I missed The Twelve Kingdoms.

pfft, not as good as my ride.
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8393/pimpmobile.jpg)

^ some time ago
but now...

CHECK THIS OUT

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs327.ash1/28530_1375744667087_1035939090_31104584_2374707_n. jpg

YEEEE MY NEW RIDE B)

and yes... that is a rubbish bin ._."

so to conclude
my ride > your ride

^ some time ago
but now...

CHECK THIS OUT

Show Spoiler


YEEEE MY NEW RIDE

and yes... that is a rubbish bin ._."

so to conclude
my ride > your ride
What the hell is this? Calvin and Hobbes? That's pretty awesome, Furbob. XD

Two girls one bin?

Two kids, one sandbox.

you know ive always wondered if brittani louise taylor on youtube is actually a man...
someone tell me?

*Waves goodbye*

nooooooooo

see you on msn

Programmed a lot just now!

@Luis in cigarettes thread (yes, I'm extremely lazy):
You're right, some of the people in fast food places are eye-scarringly hard to look at. But they don't give me cancer - if anything, they improve my (physical) health by making me run to the nearest gym out of fear for my life. Of course, my mental health is another story...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy57u0WI6C0 Oh my sides hurt

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u92/iron_megalith/hinataliftoff.gif
I should learn not to watch Angel Beats while drinking a can of pop...my nose still burns...
EDIT: It's funnier in the episode, it had the ending theme playing during the replay of the liftoff XD

wow surprised this sites still goin, and general chat returned. nice to see the old faces still here

OMG SEPHIROTH *plays one winged angel as bg music as i experience this moment*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy57u0WI6C0 Oh my sides hurt
Wasn't that a great show?

wow surprised this sites still goin, and general chat returned. nice to see the old faces still here

:O

:4eyes:

so have i missed much?

:no:


Edit: Itsumihito de *Gets whacked by a hammer*

I still haven't watched Lucky Star...I have mountains of old anime I still need to watch... D':

I still haven't watched Lucky Star...

...and I never will. I seriously struggled to get through the first episode of that. Its like going to see a bad movie, you pay for your movie, so you don't want to leave but its just so bad that you're permanently face-palming. But in my case it was that I'd used my download quota to load it........but it was just so.........otaku-ish x_x

...and I never will. I seriously struggled to get through the first episode of that. Its like going to see a bad movie, you pay for your movie, so you don't want to leave but its just so bad that you're permanently face-palming. But in my case it was that I'd used my download quota to load it........but it was just so.........otaku-ish x_x

It wasn't that bad...I mean it got better but it still wasn't that great. Still, I liked it, hahahah

...and I never will. I seriously struggled to get through the first episode of that. Its like going to see a bad movie, you pay for your movie, so you don't want to leave but its just so bad that you're permanently face-palming. But in my case it was that I'd used my download quota to load it........but it was just so.........otaku-ish x_x

Don't worry, they fired the director after episode 4 and hired a new guy. The old director went onward to create Kannagi - Crazy Shrine Maidens.

Don't worry, they fired the director after episode 4 and hired a new guy. The old director went onward to create Kannagi - Crazy Shrine Maidens.

Which sucked tbh. x_x

Don't worry, they fired the director after episode 4 and hired a new guy. The old director went onward to create Kannagi - Crazy Shrine Maidens.

So just skip the first 4 episodes; alright :).......................this so better not be pure moe and okatu-ish though..........I don't know how much more I can take x_x

And I must say after watching K-ON!! (the second season), I must have been really, really, bored to actually watch the whole first season last holidays.

The Otaku and Moe don't leave the story. It just has a different flavour. It's still softer than K-On in that factor.

And I must say after watching K-ON!! (the second season), I must have been really, really, bored to actually watch the whole first season last holidays.


The Otaku and Moe don't leave the story. It just has a different flavour. It's still softer than K-On in that factor.

K-ON! = Moeblob Overload! XD I'm okay with K-ON! actually, the light humour from the show is enjoyable enough for me lol. ;)

So just skip the first 4 episodes; alright :).......................this so better not be pure moe and okatu-ish though..........I don't know how much more I can take x_x

And I must say after watching K-ON!! (the second season), I must have been really, really, bored to actually watch the whole first season last holidays.

Yeah, LS gets better after the first 4 eps. The intro is still really annoying though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgQZFMG3Mg ~ :music:

I should really rewatch Haibane Renmei.

Yeah, LS gets better after the first 4 eps. The intro is still really annoying though.

lucky star was an awesome anime but yea the intro kinda sucked. same with baka to test but that was a lil more messed

Yeah, LS gets better after the first 4 eps. The intro is still really annoying though.
I like the intro. It's like aural crack. =D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65HROb-YotA

Tongue twisted yet? And yet the same voice talent does this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y35kLhst2Q)... It may come as a surprise to some, but I don't understand the Japanese sometimes.


Speaking of Tongue Twisters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55jsUnYHow#t=2m51s)

Speaking of Tongue Twisters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55jsUnYHow#t=2m51s)

Holy crap...

Didn't skate at all...

Originally posted by M: Tongue twisted yet? And yet the same voice talent does this song... It may come as a surprise to some, but I don't understand the Japanese sometimes.

wO_ow Crazy seiyuu.


Originally posted by Phard: Didn't skate at all...

Some English subs are just plain weird.

Time to program some more. Living is a lot of work. = =;;
Until you're rich, anyway. Then it's all hot girls and white beaches. And coconuts with those little umbrellas in them.

programming what per se?
and in which language?

programming what per se?
and in which language?
The greatest videogame ever created.*
In C#. (With the XNA libraries.)

*Greatest videogame ever created by myself.
Which isn't saying much means it'll be fucking awesome! =D

then you should do my tic tac toe AI for me =D

Well, there's only 255168 possible games (http://www.btinternet.com/~se16/hgb/tictactoe.htm) (26830 if you want to hurt yourself with algorithms) to Tic-Tac-Toe. Just write an intelligent agent that can pathfind quickly using these rules (the easiest being a parallel partition pushdown automata; you may be able to get more speed using a Embedded Stack Automaton). The nice thing about TicTacToe is that it's highly deterministic, thus you don't have to do anything hairy like fuzzy logic, machine learning, or filters. Instead, you just have to worry about shortest path algorithms and a simple yes/no answer. Heck, if you really want to confuse your professor, you could do this with a simple weighted linked list algorithm where the weight is the number of winnable games after this node is done, simply selecting the game with the highest chance of winning, and completely screw determinism with overbearing statistics.

And please tell me the AI isn't being written in something like VB or Perl. I'd commit suicide something like this was given to me and I wasn't granted the ability to use C++ or Lisp/Erlang.



*dejects self from further AI communications* I knew joining the AAAI was a baaaaaaaaad idea.

then you should do my tic tac toe AI for me =D
Are you serious, or?
If you're not joking, I'll give it a quick shot. It sounds like a decent exercise, since I've never done any real AI before.

I'm on a boat motherfucker, take a look at me.
Straight floatin on a boat on the deep blue sea.
Bustin five knots, wind whippin out my coat,
You can't stop me motherfucker cause I'm on a boat.
Take a picture, trick. I'm on a boat, bitch.
We drinking Santana champ, cause it's so crisp.

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Speaking of Tongue Twisters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55jsUnYHow#t=2m51s)

*Whistles* Damn, and I thought the ones from Clannad were hard.

Fuko & Tomoya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxR8o7ZjWfs)

Drama Practice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_UsQdZoKAA&feature=related)

And I'm pretty sure there was another somewhere in the show................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dBsVvDOZ2E

My god, who thinks of that kind of chord structure?

And I still love watching speed painting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ikjIQl9Q0E)

man that is some real talent. i watched a couple of others. truly amazing. im kinda gutted i gave up drawing a few years back. i played the piano to express my emotions instead. had to skim through the last one though, gotta leave for gym but great find m

i am quite serious

and it's supposed to only learn, not know
and thus makes decisions based on outcomes of previous games.
basically it just looks at a square and asks itself, "what was my success of winning when i moved here?" and compares it to it's success at other squares and makes choices based off that

if there isn't enough information to make such a decision, it just picks randomly and records results of that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dBsVvDOZ2E

My god, who thinks of that kind of chord structure?

And I still love watching speed painting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ikjIQl9Q0E)

Aww M, I wanted to stumble on these videos first! XD I guess I should blame my own incompetence for not being fast enough to discover them b4 you, LOL! :P

I watched a different version of that Angel Beats video though... proudly presented by spiritsoul. :heh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPR9o1O88es

Hmm Angel Beats... How's that going right now?

damn m im addicted to them painting vids now

Me too, Sephi.

and it's supposed to only learn, not know
and thus makes decisions based on outcomes of previous games.
Ah, a little too tough for me, then. I was just going to use common sense to assign each move a weight (since there are so few moves available in tic-tac-toe) and have it go from there.
For you noobs watching the speed painting videos, go download Open Canvas and watch event files instead. It plays paintings back frame by frame, keeping all the layers and tool settings in tact. You can pause whenever you want, and even edit the paintings in progress.

And I'm more impressed with the song in M's video than the painting...what song is it? (The first one!)
Also...that wasn't even a speed painting video. It was a twenty minute long video, and it was going about ten times faster than it should have been. That's a fastforwarded paint, not a speed paint. If you want to see paintings and other arts done quickly, then head over to a paint chat. There are some really amazing artists who hang out in those, and pump artwork out ridiculously quickly. =D

Niko's paintchat is a good one!

that is some bullshit! free redemption codes for mw2 dlc. just had to be the 1st to take the code from the logo. 10 free to give away. 1 at a time. 1 hour i was there refreshing the page waiting for that final code. 1 hour! then it finally came out. the second it came out i entered it and what do you know. its no longer valid. how ive just wasted my life :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4
still awesome

I made a big jump in pitching today... =D

I learned today that Ceui did the ED for Kyoshiro to Towa. I also learned that one should never male morph a Ceui song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYhMXEKpsTk).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKqihEUmH4&feature=player_embedded

This makes me so sad... and yet made me laugh my ass off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKqihEUmH4&feature=player_embedded

This makes me so sad... and yet made me laugh my ass off.

I would say its because he's American but he's Canadian.............so I got nothing. Just now that I think about it, I wonder how man I hate Justin Bieber groups I've actually joined on facebook.........:think:

Hmm... it seems I've stumbled across a SC2 beta key... Too bad my computer is too outdated to run the game. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REElUors1pQ

YOU ARE THE DANCING QUEEN~ YOUNG AND SWEET~ ONLY SEVENTEEN!

I fucking hate it when we play oldies in my office. Songs like that just don't leave you. Ever.

Yesterday was liberation day and since all the banks were closed we didn't have shit to do at work, we ended doing a pop quiz over the Office communicator.

At one point we were completing lyrics, including some abba songs XD

Liberation Day? That sounds quite http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ZeroIchigo/emot-911.gif

its election day today. hope liberal democrats get in they're going to be legalising stuff yay :stoned:

Liberation Day? That sounds quite http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ZeroIchigo/emot-911.gif

Actually it's more canadian than US. We celebrate that the Canadian and US soldiers liberated us from Hitler and his gang. Netherlands was mostly liberated by the Canadian forces though :D

Yay Canada :D

gj canada. managed to liberate a nation without dropping an atom bomb.

So I was browsing around Puyo Puyo clones on Youtube, and I came across this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EwZzvB-12g) video.

Two words: Damn it!

Hahahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y51OsLRXAw8

YES AYA KAMIKI

When girls dye their hair that blackberry red, it makes me >:|
Hair isn't that color! And if you're gonna dye your hair a fake color, at least do it all the way and make it bright blue or something! Don't pick a color that's only slightly different from a normal hair color!

Girls, always doing things half-assed, I swear to god.
*Goes to buy some bright blue hair dye.*

When girls dye their hair that blueberry blue, it makes me >:|
Hair should not be that color! And if you're gonna dye your hair a fake color, at least do it all the way and make it dark red or something! Don't pick a color that's completely different from a normal hair color!

Girls, always doing things half-assed, I swear to god.
*Goes to buy some dark red hair dye.*

Bwahaha, I think that girl's hair looks nice...
*shakes head*
You men just don't understand.

It's a Japanese Avril!

that woulda been expected since she lists avril lavigne as one of her major influences lol

i see what you did there M

Hopeless: do not diss Kamiki, i <3z her D:

When girls dye their hair that blueberry blue, it makes me >:|
Hair should not be that color! And if you're gonna dye your hair a fake color, at least do it all the way and make it dark red or something! Don't pick a color that's completely different from a normal hair color!

Girls, always doing things half-assed, I swear to god.
*Goes to buy some dark red hair dye.*
Oh.
IT.
IS.
AWN.
(Girlfriend.)

I expect pics within the week, M. Me and you. Post your picture thread. Blue and red hair. BE THERE OR BE DEAD!


Hopeless: do not diss Kamiki, i <3z her D:
Sorry...red hair is just so....emo... XP

redheads everywhere, you're all emo aparently.

Oh.
IT.
IS.
AWN.
(Girlfriend.)

I expect pics within the week, M. Me and you. Post your picture thread. Blue and red hair. BE THERE OR BE DEAD!


Sorry...red hair is just so....emo... XP

How is red emo? But that is something I'd seriously like to see.........:shifty:. Maybe we can finally get a clue as to what M is as well:think:

But just you guys wait till I straighten my hair, it will seriously be anime long.................I don't think I'd dye it blue or red though:\

When girls dye their hair that dark red, it makes me >:|
Hair should not be that color! And if you're gonna dye your hair a fake color, at least do it all the way and make it bright pink or something! Don't pick a color that's completely different from a normal hair color!

Girls, always doing things half-assed, I swear to god.
*Goes to buy some bright pink hair dye.*

redheads everywhere, you're all emo aparently.
Quiet, Luis. You know I meant dyed red hair is emo. Regular read heads are just weird looking.
Just kidding, regular redheads.

How is red emo?
Have you never seen anyone with red dyed hair, or what?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2400/1498269277_e9dfee464c.jpg


*Goes to buy some bright pink hair dye.*
Good girl. That might actually be cute, depending on what hair style you go with.

Actually that's not emo, it's the bastard offspring of a goth mum and a punk father.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll45/AeonHorus/Myshit/hide_023.jpg

I believe I can fly~ I believe I can touch the sky~

Actually that's not emo, it's the bastard offspring of a goth mum and a punk father.
Ah, sorry. All these things fall under the category of "what the hell were they thinking?!" for me, so I tend to easily confuse them. XD

I believe I can fly~ I believe I can touch the sky~
Aww, she's trying to smile, even though it's physically impossible for emos to do so. She's such a little soldier. ='D
Kekekeke.

No, it's not physically impossible for emos to smile...they just placed mental restrictions preventing them to. Either that or they purposely froze their mugs into that stupid pensive face of gloom

Hahaha,


*Goes to buy some bright pink hair dye.*

Why would you do that? :huh:

Also why dye your hair red when you can bleach it WHITE!

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/urcute08/g-dragon_heartbreaker_kjp.jpg

had a friend dye it electric blue, looked pretty badass IMHO.

Or we could all just be normal and not dye our hair and leave it natural.

Yes, soooo much better. ^_^

had a friend dye it electric blue, looked pretty badass IMHO.
I told everyone blue was the way to go...
I'm so bored right now. XP

Hahaha,



Why would you do that? :huh:

Also why dye your hair red when you can bleach it WHITE!

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/urcute08/g-dragon_heartbreaker_kjp.jpg

you just showed the very reason why you would never bleach your hair white
because then you'd end up like that

because quite frankly girls only liked it because it was g-dragon
he looks hideous and that is a fact. he also can't sing, the popularity of that song was from him being in big bang, not from the quality of the songs he produced.

that's why, end of story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzCbEdtNbJ0

^Example of good song with G Dragon in it.

Whys that guy dressed like Seto Kaiba?
[Edit] Also general fag-ness.

I'm so bored right now. XP

Ditto, I've got a feeling today's going to be a long day *sigh*....................well, at least MMO's are good for time wasting :heh:

I...I love G-DRAGON :'<

~Agrees with X~ Me too...
@aznanimedude - And I like his hair white... T^T
@M - I didn't understand a word in that song but it was so sad... :'(

Also general fag-ness.

You rang?

Para's a fag? I always thought he was a homosexual. And no, they're not the same thing.

Para's a fag? I always thought he was a homosexual. And no, they're not the same thing.

It was an inside joke back from the IRC days. ;)

What's up Neko? :lol:

Roof, sky, universe.

Not much. you?

Eh, just got done with finals for this semester of college. Not too bad and not too good, I supposed. All A's as far as I know.

I just seem to be bored out of my mind lately. Like a restless bored feeling, all the time. Sigh.

nsfw: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/05/08/sexy-crossdressing-trap-gallery/
Those can't all really be traps, can they? Half of them look better than most girls I know. D:
Some of them are ADORABLE.

Thoughts, Para? Are these cute because they're guys, or unattractive because they look like girls? I don't like girls who look like guys, but I can't see how you could not like these guys, since they're so damned cute!
Like pic #16 (blondie). Oh my God. He looks like a tomboyish girl (therefore sort of boyish), but I don't care. He's still cute, hahah!
#59 and #63 are cute, too...and #85...and of course the last one (Hirano) is cute, too. XD

nsfw: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/05/08/sexy-crossdressing-trap-gallery/
Those can't all really be traps, can they? Half of them look better than most girls I know. D:
Some of them are ADORABLE.

Thoughts, Para? Are these cute because they're guys, or unattractive because they look like girls? I don't like girls who look like guys, but I can't see how you could not like these guys, since they're so damned cute!
Like pic #16 (blondie). Oh my God. He looks like a tomboyish girl (therefore sort of boyish), but I don't care. He's still cute, hahah!
#59 and #63 are cute, too...and #85...and of course the last one (Hirano) is cute, too. XD

Sorry, I like my men to actually look like men.

XD

Sorry, I like my men to actually look like men.
You don't even like the tomboyish #16? He just looks like a really cute boy. D:
IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIM, THEN YOUR TASTES MAKE NO SENSE TO ME!

What happen to those people http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ZeroIchigo/emot-smith.gif http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8329/thenandnow.jpg


Some of them are ADORABLE. Too bad they only look good. That Hirano should do futa pr0n

What happen to those people
The japanese dudes still look pretty cool, even though it's in a different way. They have an unfair advantage over the Americans and Germans, though, since the Japanese is comparison is showing a bunch of models, whereas the American and German comparisons just show a bunch of scene-fags for the "after" pictures.

Rambo still wins, though.

The japanese dudes still look pretty cool, even though it's in a different way. They have an unfair advantage over the Americans and Germans, though, since the Japanese is comparison is showing a bunch of models, whereas the American and German comparisons just show a bunch of scene-fags for the "after" pictures.

Nah, they're just a bunch of host-fags who make vulnerable girls pay a ton of money for fake love.

They don't know how to be like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfkCImzVelg), or like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDqDRZJ-7EI) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ZeroIchigo/emot-unsmith.gif

I'm sorry but if it even looks like it might have a vagina, I'm probably not going to be interested. Too much of a chance for me to be scarred for life. XD

I dont like the fact that I knew they were hosts.
Also hate the germans all ya like, but those nazi bastards knew how to exterminate with STYLE, check out those uniforms.

I'm sorry but if it even looks like it might have a vagina, I'm probably not going to be interested. Too much of a chance for me to be scarred for life.
Hahah, indeed. X3

Also hate the germans all ya like, but those nazi bastards knew how to exterminate with STYLE, check out those uniforms.
Damn straight. Nazis are probably the most sharply dressed bad guys of all time. Their uniforms just look evil.

So...when are you going to finish Code Geass, Para? You've been watching that show for what, five years now? XD

omg. 4 people in this thread at one time. I haven't seen that since 2007!

Hmm, there's an invisible ninja here as well O_o

Everyone best meet me on IRC... is all Im saying.

Hahah, indeed. X3

Damn straight. Nazis are probably the most sharply dressed bad guys of all time. Their uniforms just look evil.

So...when are you going to finish Code Geass, Para? You've been watching that show for what, five years now? XD

Oh, I've been finished with Code Geass. I just never picked up another anime after I finished it.

Also: @Luis: I'll meat you in IRC... is all I'm saying. ;)

... you ran!

Aye. I copped a feel and ran for my life. XD

EDIT: I'm actually downloading the trial client for Age of Conan so it was messing with IRC.

Ima put on a movie and probably fall asleep.

Para throw me a line on msn or somethin sometime, havent heard from ya in ages.

Sorry for spammin up gc btw guys.

I may start browsing the forums more often now that I'm done with Spring semester. They aren't offering any classes I need for summer so I have a pretty long break until Fall semester starts.

That's the case with my too...but then I HAD to take whatever I can if I were to finish as soon as I can (like it or not)

And sadly I'll be seeing less of the forums...........its like the teachers were stockpiling homework for the winter...........

school schmool!

Let's see... five ten-minute speeches with mandatory note-cards, 200 pages to read in The Grapes of Wrath, and a math assignment, all due Monday. Halfway finished, halfway to go. x_x

Stop callin', stop callin',
I don't wanna think anymore!
I left my head and my heart on the dance floor.
Stop callin', stop callin',
I don't wanna talk anymore!
I left my head and my heart on the dance floor.


Ugh. I got Lady GaGa stuck in my head. Quick! Someone get her out!

Let's see... five ten-minute speeches with mandatory note-cards, 200 pages to read in The Grapes of Wrath, and a math assignment, all due Monday. Halfway finished, halfway to go.
You have an hour of speeches due monday? What kind of class are you in?
And Grapes of Wrath was one of the most boring books I've ever read, ever. And I've read some boring books! XP

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPnt8AsiRcg&feature=related =D
<3 Ghibli.

I wish they'd make another Lupin III movie. Cagliostro is still one of my favorite movies ever...does anyone know of any other movies like it? The whole Lupin chasing the count being chased by Zenigata being chased by the count thing made me smile. I like movies where the focus isn't so much on an evil villain, but on a bunch of different people stuck fighting each other for their own reasons - the relationship between Lupin and Zenigata is hilarious to me.

I mention Lupin III because 3:30 in the above clip reminds me of it. The dude is all "SAVIN' A GIRL AND RUNNING AWAY, YEAAAH," which makes me smile, too. XD

i hate studio ghibli, its kinda like anime made for westerners to appeal to the people who dont like anime. and its too childish for me. give me guts and gore, and maybe the odd comedy romance lol.

im so glad i dont have any more school/college/uni projects to worry about. such freedom. now its only lookin for a job :(

i hate studio ghibli, its kinda like anime made for westerners to appeal to the people who dont like anime. and its too childish for me. give me guts and gore, and maybe the odd comedy romance lol.
Aren't kids the ones who like guts and gore the most? "It's too immature, not enough people get shot in it!" is a pretty silly sounding argument when you say it out loud, isn't it? =P
Ghibli is some of the most "Japanese"/"adult" anime out there, in my opinion, in that it doesn't rely on guns and boobs (loved by both children and your average American) to sell its anime. There's a reason Ghibli movies always smash Japanese box office records.
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the only thing that i would compliment about studio ghibli is the quality of the animation, however kara no kyoukai also had some stunning visuals and animation and i loved it

You have an hour of speeches due monday? What kind of class are you in?
And Grapes of Wrath was one of the most boring books I've ever read, ever. And I've read some boring books! XP


It's weird. The teacher's gonna choose five people at random on the day of the class out of thirty. The un-chosen ones have to make a poster on global warming crap. I'm planning to improv it in front of the class lol. There's absolutely no time for me to outline/practice all five speeches in an hour.

Grapes of Wrath? I quit reading it just now. Go sparkotes! ;)


Aren't kids the ones who like guts and gore the most? "It's too immature, not enough people get shot in it!" is a pretty silly sounding argument when you say it out loud, isn't it? =P
Ghibli is some of the most "Japanese"/"adult" anime out there, in my opinion, in that it doesn't rely on guns and boobs (loved by both children and your average American) to sell its anime. There's a reason Ghibli movies always smash Japanese box office records.
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Rofl. I'm probably sleepy or something, but the way you put it was hilarious.

the only thing that i would compliment about studio ghibli is the quality of the animation, however kara no kyoukai also had some stunning visuals and animation and i loved it
Bleah, kyoukai. Shiny, for sure. I don't know whether I'd call it "stunning" or "gaudy," though. I didn't think the use (overuse?) of cg blended well at all with the 2D art in kyoukai at all. Everything had a very textured "we did this in photoshop" look to it, which I didn't find especially appealing.

I did think the 2D work in Kyoukai was very nice, though. It's a shame they abused the cg so much in order (I imagine) to cut costs. Have you seen the Ghost in the Shell movie, Sephiroth? I think Kara no Kyoukai was aiming for something like that animation style, but didn't go all the way through with it. I'd check out GitS if you haven't already; you might find the movie a little slow (many people do), but you'll probably like the animation at least.

I quit reading it just now. Go sparkotes!
Hah, probably a good choice. That book was seriously painful (and depressing!) to read.

It's weird. The teacher's gonna choose five people at random on the day of the class out of thirty. The un-chosen ones have to make a poster on global warming crap. I'm planning to improv it in front of the class lol.
That is a little weird. Improv ftw, though.

Rofl. I'm probably sleepy or something, but the way you put it was hilarious.
I try, lol. And I misspelled 'refutation' in my original post. Sneakily editing that right....now. > >

yea i did watch ghost in the shell. to be honest i hated it. i think the reason why i loved kara no kyoukai so much was because it was related to shingetsutan tsukihime which i also loved

yea i did watch ghost in the shell. to be honest i hated it. i think the reason why i loved kara no kyoukai so much was because it was related to shingetsutan tsukihime which i also loved
Aye, didn't think you'd like the movie, just the animation. XD

Bleah, kyoukai. Shiny, for sure. I don't know whether I'd call it "stunning" or "gaudy," though. I didn't think the use (overuse?) of cg blended well at all with the 2D art in kyoukai at all. Everything had a very textured "we did this in photoshop" look to it, which I didn't find especially appealing.

But you liked the shitty quality of K-On art with cheesy 3D pans and digital close-ups without passing through a QC. Go figure.


I did think the 2D work in Kyoukai was very nice, though. It's a shame they abused the cg so much in order (I imagine) to cut costs. Have you seen the Ghost in the Shell movie, Sephiroth? I think Kara no Kyoukai was aiming for something like that animation style, but didn't go all the way through with it. I'd check out GitS if you haven't already; you might find the movie a little slow (many people do), but you'll probably like the animation at least.

P.A Works has always done animation like this. Its kinda like how Shaft always uses stop-motion, hard light, and mosaic techniques. And because Kara no Kyoukai is heavily set into mysticism, it would have been way overboard to do the amount of CG as GitS did; it just would not have flowed. Instead, they took the parts that needed to be shiny and made it that way. Think about the Paradox Spiral chapter. If they didn't use CG, it would have come out like a picture from Saya no Uta, pretty, but not living.



And I'm sorry, I don't care what anyone says, Kara no Kyoukai has the best lighting I've ever seen in an anime to date (even that one-man army animator gone commercial (http://anidb.net/a4568)); regardless of how it was done, it's quality.

*is bored*

Grades were posted on my account for college.

Yay for all A's.

But you liked the shitty quality of K-On art with cheesy 3D pans and digital close-ups without passing through a QC. Go figure.
Eh? K-ON is a series; Kyoukai was a set of movies, wasn't it? I expect different things from them. Besides that, K-ON's art was fine, on the whole. Kyoukai's art was gaudy and ridiculous looking.

P.A Works has always done animation like this. Its kinda like how Shaft always uses stop-motion, hard light, and mosaic techniques. And because Kara no Kyoukai is heavily set into mysticism, it would have been way overboard to do the amount of CG as GitS did; it just would not have flowed. Instead, they took the parts that needed to be shiny and made it that way. Think about the Paradox Spiral chapter. If they didn't use CG, it would have come out like a picture from Saya no Uta, pretty, but not living.
I haven't seen all of them; just watched a bunch of the fight scenes, hahah. The art hurt my eyes, so I decided against watching the rest of them. To be clear, I didn't dislike the 2D artwork in the movie; I thought it was top notch. The CG was great, too. What I didn't like was how they meshed the two together; it was always blatantly obvious that they were doing it, and looked really out of place. For example, I loved the fight scene with all the zombies...I think one threw a fridge at her or something. That was great. I hated the scene where she's fighting those ghost girls on top of the roof (or maybe it was one girl?). I thought the CG was terrible in that scene, with all the pointless spinning and stuff - it looked like the 2D characters where floating on top of a crazy spinning background they just happened to be pasted on top of, instead of actually being in the scene. That scene especially pissed me off, because I couldn't understand why they'd ruin their (very well animated) 2D work by poorly pasting it on top of a background they didn't belong on.

And I'm sorry, I don't care what anyone says, Kara no Kyoukai has the best lighting I've ever seen in an anime to date (even that one-man army animator gone commercial); regardless of how it was done, it's quality.
That hideous untruth you just let loose on the world is making me physically ill. Thank you, bastard. =P
The lighting was interesting looking, but I don't think it was especially good. A lot of the time, it looks like they just threw random rainbow colors all over the background for no reason. The lighting looked out of place a lot of the time, in my opinion. I don't think their understanding of how colors work was very good (compared to other top-tier companies; they're obviously still better than most artists), whereas the backgrounds in the shinkai movies always amaze me with their detail, and the artist's obvious understanding of how the world looks. A lot of the backgrounds really made me ask myself how many hours of painting those crazy bastards must have clocked in during their lives; Kyoukai never made me ask any such questions. Really, the Shinkai movies have some top-notch background work going on; it feels like I'm constantly learning something new from them. A lot of the little things they do with their backgrounds are just incredibly clever, showcasing a mastery of their craft. =D

Easy, flashy tricks to impress the public. Simple, incredibly difficult tricks to impress fellow magicians. Kyoukai is something they'd show at a circus, complete with Bengal tigers and half-naked assistant girls. Thankfully, it seems the public is impressed with both Shinkai and Kyoukai, or I'd be a sad panda. XD

Also, the GitS movie used NO CG, as far as I remember. Which was my point. It looked a lot better than Kyoukai. What CG parts of GitS are you talking about?

Edit: Ugh, just watched some kyoukai scenes. I'm feeling even more ill now; the backgrounds look like they came from a doushinji game. They don't even compare to the works of Shinkai (or K-ON, for that matter), you harlot! And the fighting animation is good, but not great. Just watched the zombie scene again; it looks like one of those stick figure gifs, where a stick figure runs around everywhere killing a million guys. The animation lacked any real sense of weight or momentum - it looked like she was just floating around while flailing about, with zombies exploding all around her for no reason. 7/10!

Think about the Paradox Spiral chapter. If they didn't use CG, it would have come out like a picture from Saya no Uta, pretty, but not living.

that paradox chapter confused the hell out of me, i still don't understand the structure to that episode i kinda understood it in the last 5 minutes but still kinda left me like wtf?

Paradox always makes people go wtf.

that paradox chapter confused the hell out of me, i still don't understand the structure to that episode i kinda understood it in the last 5 minutes but still kinda left me like wtf?

As stated in this volume, the Akashic records mentioned in the Vedas illustrate how time and man travel in an ascending circle. The entire chapter of the Paradox Spiral was to reverse the flow and segment reality into two separate entities, along the same spiral but with areas that have filtered similarities. This is a helix. By forming a helix, a completely complementary reality can be spawned. As per Stephan Hawkings, when to identically opposite systems approach one another, they negate one another and cause dysfunction, thus stimulating prakriti.

What Araya did was manipulate their reality to create a helix of negative energy to construct the ultimate nirvana, not much unlike the Emiya family attempted before Kiritsugu from Fate/Stay Zero showed no interest in the land of heroes.


And that's about as high level of an explanation I can give ya. There's a few more cross references between Fate/Stay (or should I say Fate/Stay embellished them) and Tsukihime with how Araya performed the magic, but I doubt anyone wants to hear about the history of the Aozaki family and the history of the Red and Blue mages found in Kinoko Nasu's world. I'm still waiting for Mahoutsukai no Yoru to be released, where much of the magus and vampire lore that's used as an undertone in Natu's stories is more at the forefront. I know it would stop me from scratching my head for over an hour relating stories to Buddhist scripture and western magic systems.