No, you can't! It's impossible!


Imagine this. If you want to code you have to sit in a dark, damp, gloomy room with some old guy who keeps staring at your screen rambling about how "it wasn't like that in my days" forcing you to use old methods most of which are, obsolete and sometimes not even supported by your SDK anymore (which fails to compile, throws an exception and the help suggestion goes to tell you that "this crap is old, use this new one which is exactly same but has a new name")

Oh wait. It failed to compile so there's a big fat zero.

Er.... or so it was a loooooooooooong time ago. Now the ones I marked are bitching exactly the same thing I said to my lecturer. Except I told them not to use obsolete methods because it'll throw a warning and this was a mastery test(100% or 0%).



That was a nice short RanT, I haven't done one of those for years, literally :stoned:


Erm --- KyoAni has a habit of doing that.

What, the random cameo thing?

btw Suzumiya Haruhi's being delayed (yet again) since KyoAni's going hardout with what was it.. Clannad? and apparently they're having insider problems. If Akiba otaku said that, it must be true.

Yeah, KyoAni has been overdoing clannad. And I mean that in a bad way.

Yeah, after rewatching AIR on TV, Clannad is a totally different beast. A beast that is borderline darkside. I'll withhold my final judgment until the season ends, but the end of the first season did leave a lot to be fulfilled to live up to its sibling's expectations.

I can only imagine how KEY studios feels about the project...

The trillion peso inquisition: Wasn't AIR already a remake?.. or was that Kanon... eh, like I care about R18 "garuge" made animes


edit: talking on the line of clannad, let me show you something scary, only to those who would understand.

http://www.coteaven.net/bbs/data/real/board_upImg_679131.jpg

Kanon was made and then later finished properly with a 30 min OVA, then came Air, and a reinterpreted version a la movie, then came Kanon Remake, which was a revision of the original Kanon story to better satisfy the fan's demands (the game was rereleased). Then Clannad took to the mound and basically puttered on the first two pitches, and was left before the final pitch.

..And what's wrong with Total Media Agency? Sure they do cosplay a little to the extreme (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3158858)(don't click if you're in America and under 18; why the hell is the Kanon uniform in that video sized like a babydoll?!), but I don't find them nearly as bad as sailormoonman.

nothing wrong with them. they're just... scary


you know... that kind of scary :mellow:

Really? On the contrary I thought Clannad was fine. IMO the story wasn't as good as Kanon's, but there's still a second season coming, which could change everything (probably will). Kyoani probably wasn't aiming to make people cry with Clannad's first season anyways, considering where they ended Nagisa's arc, when they could have easily pushed forward a little and made the show a whole lot darker.

Let's judge Clannad after After Story finishes =)

Air on the other hand was so... abstract. A lot of things weren't made clear enough (significance of the crow, for example). It's understandable that it turned out this way because they had to squish practically the same amount of content as Kanon into a series with half the length.


I can only imagine how KEY studios feels about the project...
Hmm... If I was a visual novel company, I'd actually be fairly glad that Kyoani is adapting my works rather than just leaving it to Toei.

Erm --- KyoAni has a habit of doing that.

First you complain about someone not typing the full name for Gurren lagann and now you're too lazy yourself to write "Kyoto Animation". Your double standards really amaze me sometimes :mellow:

First you complain about someone not typing the full name for Gurren lagann and now you're too lazy yourself to write "Kyoto Animation". Your double standards really amaze me sometimes :mellow:

*sits back and grabs another coke*

*drains a sixpack of pepsi into the grass near him* cuz fuck you pepsi :P

*sits back and grabs another coke*

*drains a sixpack of pepsi into the grass near him* cuz fuck you pepsi :P

*smacks Luis*

First you complain about someone not typing the full name for Gurren lagann and now you're too lazy yourself to write "Kyoto Animation". Your double standards really amaze me sometimes :mellow:


KyoAni is an official nickname for them, though, where as TTGL is, well, an acronym, instead of a meaningful bacronym. :\


Kyoani probably wasn't aiming to make people cry with Clannad's first season anyways, considering where they ended Nagisa's arc, when they could have easily pushed forward a little and made the show a whole lot darker.

Nagisa's arc was heavily set around a particular event and eventually a particular child. Of which they did such a horrible job on the leadup to it. Her arc is only half done. They left out the meat and potatoes for the main heroine of the game. That, my friend, is just a way to stretch something. But...


Let's judge Clannad after After Story finishes =)

Alas, I have to agree with you on this one, though my opinion about the first series not being up to par has to stand until whichsuchcase that it is no longer so.


Hmm... If I was a visual novel company, I'd actually be fairly glad that Kyoani is adapting my works rather than just leaving it to Toei.

As much as I dislike Toei's products (most notably for the what they did in the first Kanon), I still can't say that they are professionally worse than KyoAni. All I can think of is that KyoAni likes to draw alien girls where as Toei likes to impresionalize stories. All in all, they're still two of the elite in this particular field. At least they're better than, say, Happinet! or some no name company.

Toei's Clannad Movie made me cry =(

(because they ruined it)

I hate Toei....:cry:

And in other news, I won something today...


<M|> !pantsu
-Kile- Gachapon! You have received prize number 480 today! Would you care to try again?
-Kile- http://www.bluekirby.net/someplace/pantsu480.jpg ^.^
* Kile has shared the joy that is pantsu 3728 times since 8/21/2008.

*sits back and grabs another coke*

*drains a sixpack of pepsi into the grass near him* cuz fuck you pepsi :P

oi that was my sixpack

*kicks Luis and steals his coke*

O_o

Clannad Clannad Clannad. I'll have to see what's up with that after I've finished Air.
And I actually thought Kanon wasn't as good as Clannad, even though that seems to go against popular opinion on this board. The only part of Kanon I thought was really sad was Makoto's arc. The rest of the arcs felt forced to me; it was too obvious that the anime was a galge adaptation. I liked Clannad more, because it's been more focused so far.

I loved them both though, and Kanon made me cry....SO HARD. X3

________________

http://www.yougotrickrolled.com/

Here's M's link but on YouTube for those of you without a Nico Video account. Again... (don't click if you're in America and under 18; why the hell is the Kanon uniform in that video sized like a babydoll?!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0aJNAw1zY


*smacks Luis*

I'm PorscheGTIII and I approve this message for the greater good of the world. XD

I recently watched Air on TV in the English Dub. Yeah character's personalities had to change to fit an English audience and some of the key lines you wanted to face---> palm but because it was in English I could comprehend all the connections that had to be drawn between the three arcs better. It's kind of like taking a class. You can try to remember things by just reading the book or you can listen to the professor lecture and appeal to your audio learning skills.

Moral of the story. Try watching anime in both Sub and Dub form if possible for the best experience possible.

*smacks Luis*

:music: Smack that all on the floor
Smack that give me some more
Smack that 'till you get sore
Smack that oh-oooh~ :music:
--------------

Crap, my new glasses are making me dizzy @_@ :sick:

Ahh... Kanon dub... I would have watched it, except the voices really made me cringe, especially when I remember what the characters were originally supposed to say.

By the way, how did it increase your understanding of the series Porsche?

:mellow:

Q. Who. The. Fuck. Composes. Songs. In. F. Sharp. Major.


A.Fujiwara Motoo (Bump of Chicken)


Jesus Christ I shouldn't've touched this guy's work as a project..

His music is awesome though :3
I'm trying to learn Karma for guitar, hahahah

Yes well, his guitar tabs are like G Maj. (Half step tuned down) so its not that hard to play.

But to analyse the piece and go into details, oh my room is filling up with tears and I hear a knock on the door........

Ahh... Kanon dub... I would have watched it, except the voices really made me cringe, especially when I remember what the characters were originally supposed to say.

By the way, how did it increase your understanding of the series Porsche?

I was able to keep track off all the links between the different arcs. It may just very well be that I'm more an audio learner than a visual learner, or the third time around really helped. I dunno.

:mellow:

Q. Who. The. Fuck. Composes. Songs. In. F. Sharp. Major.


Pro'lly the same person that composes in D Sharp Minor.

Nine days of sleep, eat, xbox360, N64, ps2, ps3. Yet no internet. So err I guess i'll be back in another 9 days or more. Keep up the fun!

Good. All goes according to plan. Good. Good. XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxxnr3j604k

God I hate you aznanimedude...

I feel so #%^* right now with the deadlines of tomorrow. >_>

Q. Who. The. Fuck. Composes. Songs. In. F. Sharp. Major.
Link to songs please? I want to hear them for some reason...
Edit: Nevermind, I'm friends with google...

I believe the opening of Zero no Tsukaima II, I Say Yes, was originally composed in F sharp major, not that anyone cares though...

Oh it was certainly F sharp. Fucking sharp objects approaching my ear as I listened sharp. Oh how I hate Ichigo's voice.


While we're on bad voices: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUnXsXXcb4M
That's such a shitty sounding song. I can't stand it.

Tori no Uta is in C# Major in parts. :lol:

While we're on bad voices: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUnXsXXcb4M
That's such a shitty sounding song. I can't stand it.
I thought it was very pretty, actually. XD

Hmm, I'm trying to set up something but there's details that are preventing me from doing so...
Does anyone know of a good (free) video sharing website other than youtube where I can host vids that are around 20-30 minutes long, around 100MB-200MB per video?

If there's nothing, how about an efficient, easy to use, reliable and free video splitter? (one that can split said videos into parts that I could then upload to youtube)

video.google.com comes to mind but I've never uploaded anything there.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/Kougp01/ihasacolaqh4.jpg

Pepsi!

*thumbs up*

that cat has great taste, and I'm not talking takeout Chinese.

http://www.madeinatlantis.com/images/cocacola_big.jpg

This pussy is better than yours.

You know, I'm starting to lose my faith in Luis coming up with mediocre comebacks...

Hmm, I'm trying to set up something but there's details that are preventing me from doing so...
Does anyone know of a good (free) video sharing website other than youtube where I can host vids that are around 20-30 minutes long, around 100MB-200MB per video?

If there's nothing, how about an efficient, easy to use, reliable and free video splitter? (one that can split said videos into parts that I could then upload to youtube)

Err, Windows Movie Maker?

I used it to split up about four hours worth of stuff for youtube..

http://www.madeinatlantis.com/images/cocacola_big.jpg

This pussy is better than yours.

It would've been. Too bad she expired some time ago.



You know, I'm starting to lose my faith in Luis coming up with mediocre comebacks...

Indeed

Expired pussy.


EW

Expired pussy.


EW

DOUBLE EW

Expired pussy.


EW

your favourite kind ;)

You know, I'm starting to lose my faith in Luis coming up with mediocre comebacks...

WTF is that supposed to mean O_o?

(Serious Question)

your favourite kind ;)

Only because it's your mom's. ;)

Err, Windows Movie Maker?

I used it to split up about four hours worth of stuff for youtube..

Hmm, that would make sense, hahahah. I just don't like using it though :P
but how will I take care of .mkv files? XD

lol she's had 2 kids and she's in her early 50s

course her pussy's expired

=P

LMAO

haha

i win =D

Luis's joke would have been slightly amusing if he didn't pick a pinup girl from the 1920s. The way he did it, I just kind of lolwut?'ed.
http://www.picoern.com/score/kanon/mid/yukino-m.htm
I want to learn to play that! It sounds so fun, hahahah. I can imagine just playing that all day. It's so goofy and bouncy.

WTF is that supposed to mean O_o?

(Serious Question)

I mean, your usual mediocre comebacks are no longer mediocre. That last attempt was shit. Complete and utter dogshit in your physics notes shit. It added nothing, it wasn't remotely interesting, and the final prestige was simply not there. Usually, you present something that satisfies at least one of the first two things, but this one lacked it entirely.

lol she's had 2 kids and she's in her early 50s

course her pussy's expired

=P

hah! :lol:

my god what have I done to general chat?


by bringing in a picture of a cat with a can of pepsi I have turned the holiest of santuaries into a pit of hell where people talk about their *beep*s *beep*


BURN IN HELL YOU SINNERS!!




and gimme a pie :drinking:

That's because Luis thought he could make a funny comeback and turned it into an epic fail.

Babies are ugly.

That's why you say they're sweet instead. I went to a friend the other day, who had a baby, and I must say it was a very, very, VERY sweet baby.

That's why you say they're sweet instead. I went to a friend the other day, who had a baby, and I must say it was a very, very, VERY sweet baby.

...so that's why my mom's friends always say I was a sweet baby...:cry:

...so that's why my mom's friends always say I was a sweet baby...:cry:

*nods head vigorously*

Babies are ugly.
HAHAHAHAH, I KNOW!
Gross little bastards.

My little brother wants a violin. Fuck yeah! I can't wait to play duets with him. =D
So cool. I have no musical friends at all. No artist friends in general. No talented friends in general. Bleah.
He wants to play Kotomi's theme. Hahahah.

And why is everyone so viciously mean to each other around here? Do we really need to crucify people when they make bad jokes? XD

And thanks for the events explanation, M. With that and a little extra reading, I have a pretty decent idea of why they're important now. I can tell I won't be able to fully appreciate them until I write larger programs, though.

And I'm in three art classes right now! I bought my paint today! Yeah!
My life is getting better all the time~!

HAHAHAHAH, I KNOW!
Gross little bastards.

My little brother wants a violin. Fuck yeah! I can't wait to play duets with him. =D
So cool. I have no musical friends at all. No artist friends in general. No talented friends in general. Bleah.
He wants to play Kotomi's theme. Hahahah.

And why is everyone so viciously mean to each other around here? Do we really need to crucify people when they make bad jokes? XD

And thanks for the events explanation, M. With that and a little extra reading, I have a pretty decent idea of why they're important now. I can tell I won't be able to fully appreciate them until I write larger programs, though.

And I'm in three art classes right now! I bought my paint today! Yeah!
My life is getting better all the time~!

YOU PLAY THE VIOLIN? Why haven't I heard anything before? ._."

All beginners played Kotomi Ichinose concerto one time or another >.>

And why is everyone so viciously mean to each other around here? Do we really need to crucify people when they make bad jokes? XD

:torch:

That's why you say they're sweet instead.

if its a girl you just say it takes after the father.



if its a boy, THEN you say sweet(......)

I think I'll laugh nervously if ever somebody shows me their...offspring.

because they're off their springs?

lol something like that, Kou.

:ploke:

Has the large hadron collider destroyed the world yet? (http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/)

lol i dont get people making such a fuss

if it had destroyed the world we wouldnt know about it we'd literally be here one minute and not the next

so why worry?

<div id="main">
<script type="text/javascript">
if (!(typeof worldHasEnded == "undefined")) {
document.write("YUP.");
} else {
document.write("NOPE.");
}
</script>
NOPE.
<noscript>NOPE.</noscript>
</div>

...that's just sad.

<div id="main">
<script type="text/javascript">
if (!(typeof worldHasEnded == "undefined")) {
document.write("YUP.");
} else {
document.write("NOPE.");
}
</script>
NOPE.
<noscript>NOPE.</noscript>
</div>

...that's just sad.

YUP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM#

that's actually a catchy rap...

YOU PLAY THE VIOLIN? Why haven't I heard anything before? ._."
No, I don't, sadly. When I said duets, I meant for piano and violin. I've always wanted to play violin along with piano, but I only have a piano right now. When my little brother gets his violin, I'll be stealing his all the time to learn on, and I'll be playing piano-violin songs with him. And I think I'll start with the Ichinose Theme... X3

...that's just sad.
No way! It's short and to the point, making it very readable for other programmers who might come in to work on the project. It also has a high amount of reusability; you'll notice that the code doesn't mention which world we're talking about here, or even what kind of end said world is up against. This code could be reused over and over again throughout the universe, to check for an infinite amount of doomsday situations. I think the programmer must be pretty highly skilled to have written something so useful.

So cool. I have no musical friends at all. No artist friends in general. No talented friends in general. Bleah. That's not always bad. When your friends are TOO talented, sometimes it can be discouraging.


No, I don't, sadly. When I said duets, I meant for piano and violin. I've always wanted to play violin along with piano, but I only have a piano right now. When my little brother gets his violin, I'll be stealing his all the time to learn on, and I'll be playing piano-violin songs with him. And I think I'll start with the Ichinose Theme... X3 Try B.T. from .hack//SIGN. My friend and I did that at our local Canada day concert. Was awesome. \o/

When your friends are TOO talented, sometimes it can be discouraging.



The absolute truth.

I have no friends. ._.

Try B.T. from .hack//SIGN. My friend and I did that at our local Canada day concert. Was awesome. \o/

Yeah, B.T. is highly recommended because it's a song where a nub violinist can't go wrong =D

Unless of course, your brother is the next prodigy or something.

I have no friends. ._.

Don't be stealing my line, man.

I'm not a man,...man.

I'm not a man,...man.

You are my man, man.

man, can we quit this whole man thing, men?

man, can we quit this whole man thing, men?

Ok, dude.

The things I miss for being gone for so long. :huh:

You are my man, man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjNLAG6bKno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjNLAG6bKno

What... in... heck...

That was funny. :lol:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=eklvtk&s=4

by request :)

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=eklvtk&s=4

by request :)

Saved.

Guh, I just downloaded ORGmaker. I don't exactly love its interface, but it was used to make the Cave Story songs I love so much. I love music that's made out of a bunch of beeps, lol. =D

just extract the beep sound samples and use a tool with an interface you're happier with.


DAMN where do you get those old gameboy beep soundfonts..

I have no friends. ._.

then what am i:huh:

http://escape-game.com/dak_en.html

go on. show us your skills.

I'm stuck on 8/11. D:
Edit: Nevermind, just stuck on eight now.

Yup im stuck on 8 and 12. eek.

Stuck on 8 and 10

Just finished - love it.

Yeah, 8 and 10 now

Reporting in after, what, 2 years?!

Anyone - Back!

ALONE! *glomps*

Hey!!!!! :D

What say we spice this place up a bit, ne? ^^;

Well that's always fun ;)

*Jumps out of nowhere*

Hi people!

Someone explain 8 and 11...

If you want to cheat, this will help you... http://jayisgames.com/archives/2008/09/kagi_nochi_tobira.php

12:04AM and still working in a project. -_-"

Anyone have an idea of how to change the size of the warp tool in illustrator? I still don't know how to minimize the size of it.

Does anyone know how to automate DFA creation from nominal strings?

NGE is sooooooo mid-nineties

The old argument never dies, does it :/

It will, eventually. :torch:

Man, I have a feeling Angelic is gonna kill me for this :(

NGE is sooooooo mid-nineties
So is your car, nubcake. =D

But my car's cooool. NGE isn't XD

@Alone: Nope, we're doomed to fight until the end of times! MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Deal!!!! :D

(btw, I have to Report in Officially...)

*Stands at attention*

Good Morning, Assistant Commander. Lieutenant Alone Reporting in!

At ease, private :lol:

heheheheheh private

Didn't he just sign in as Lieutenant? XD Instant demotion!

"At ease lieutenant" doesn't sound as awesome as "private" =P

I'll show you a private at ease.

I'm sure you will :P

Here are privates at ease, my version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC1itIdw95s

Yes, I was surprised that they all fit in there too. I also wished I could drop kick them while they were in there

okay if you had to cheat at the door game, you suck.

8 just clickmash the left door and it drops to reveal the key.

10 keep clicking until the lines gather to a point. click.

11. I WANTS THE KEY! I WANTS THE DOOR! THE mouse SAYS!

13 is physics, 16 just tests your reflexes. 19 is possibly hardest so here's hint: turn all sounds except IE off.

now those who cleared this with ease..


http://neutralxe.net/esc/vision_play.html

I dare you. this one took me an hour. its relatively straight-foward.....

I'll show you a private at ease.

you tease.

Didn't he just sign in as Lieutenant? XD Instant demotion!

He was never promoted in the first place :P

Wow... reading my posts and threads from 2 years ago really shows how time has flown! I don't even recognise myself - How could I have been so immature and naive back then <_<

Wow... reading my posts and threads from 2 years ago really shows how time has flown! I don't even recognise myself - How could I have been so immature and naive back then <_<

Well that's life

I'm still alive ^^

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=qvRqnd4ymus

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=qvRqnd4ymus

The M is a lie.

I need my GG fix... the shakes are starting again.

GG?

G-Gundam?
Good Grief
Great Glout
Gnome Gnat
Great Going
Goodness Gracious
Google Greatness
God Grapes...

huh?

close...

Gunslinger Girl

so close and yet so, so far.

:sigh: I give up. You win Angelic, for the community has spoken.

XD !

That video just made my day. It's just as awesome in Japanese, except now it's like I'm hearing it again for the first time. =D
Edit: Well, no, the original is still better obviously. This one is great too, though. X3

damn... Hellsing will end in one more chapters :(

I... am frightened by the power of jDramas.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=qvRqnd4ymus

The original is 1000x better!

Indeed. it's like they had to stretch points of the song because of the length of certain words.

The original is 1000x better!
That's almost always true, though.
I still liked it. X3

Whoo! Tomorrow I'm going to the British Embassy to receive my BSc certificate. Again (I was there 4 years ago, when I received my A-level)...

Here's hoping in 4 more years I get to go there again ^_^

http://vimeo.com/1612411?pg=embed&sec=1612411 better!

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/extras/stillalive.php

Best version ever.

It's not that great.

This may or may not be R18.

http://www.coteaven.net/bbs/data/real/1221642065/asd.jpg

My God... That's a cool lamp.

What...the...f**k?!

I must have a sign on my forehead that says "Bitch to me about all your problems" x_x

This is the 3rd (!) random woman (20ish) that approached me while I was at a cafe (night time) asking "can I sit here?". Good news is, she had quite a good figure...

Is that you, Asuka?
I applied for a paper route! I've wanted one ever since watching Binbou Shimai Monogatari. It seems like such a cool job for some reason. You get up retardedly early, and drive around by yourself! It seems romantic and mysterious to me, but I might just be weird...

I'll be doing it on my scooter, lol. =D

This may or may not be R18.
The first time I saw that picture, I thought it was something awesome. Now that I know it's just a lamp, though, it won't go back for me anymore. I'm trying to see the girl, but I can't. D:

Edit: Holy crap, I just watched the first episode of Binbou Shimai Monogatari again, for the first time since like last year. Ever since watching it, I've had this idea in the back of my head that it would be awesome to have a crappy one-room apartment, sleeping on a futon, and delivering papers. I just bought a futon a few days ago. I just applied for a paper route. I'm searching for a crappy studio apartment! It's weird how much a show can influence me; I'd pretty much forgotten all about BSM, but I kept on wanting the things it introduced me to, even a year later. Cool, kind of. It's like "oh yeah, this is why I wanted that stuff!" Or something. Rant rant rant. Time for bed.

And I love this show. Adorable! X3

What...the...f**k?!

I must have a sign on my forehead that says "Bitch to me about all your problems" x_x

This is the 3rd (!) random woman (20ish) that approached me while I was at a cafe (night time) asking "can I sit here?". Good news is, she had quite a good figure...

I actually wouldn't mind that. I like listening to people's problems :3

=P

I understand how you feel to some extent. My forehead will write " I am a road directory." Most of the time, I have no idea how to go to the particular place. I have 3 to 4 foreigners asking me the directions to the same MRT(railway)station in the past 6 months. They are practically blind because the signs are so obvious. I am not a freaking tour guide.

someone came up to me and asked me in japanese for directions.
i said i don't speak japanese in japanese.

the person was like "oh okay..." *half way across the street* "ah?!"


life and simple pleasures

I just got yelled at from a cop for almost biking down a one-way street. WTF.

they have their quotas to fill, and sometimes when they get desperate a cop will attempt to ticket you for walking down the pedestrian aisle, "the wrong way"

someone came up to me and asked me in japanese for directions.
i said i don't speak japanese in japanese.

the person was like "oh okay..." *half way across the street* "ah?!"


life and simple pleasures


Yeah... I love it when I respond the people at my job when they're speaking Japanese. I can't speak it (well), but I understand what they're saying, so I inject certain things at particular times. Makes for a good time.

Huh, some delicious loli girl came into my store today, traded in some crappy games (which I gave her a bit extra for; she was adorable lol), and then gave me her account name:
Kyle Scott.
Wait, what!?~! D:
I got Bridget'd so hard today, hahahahahah. X3

Huh, some delicious loli girl came into my store today, traded in some crappy games (which I gave her a bit extra for; she was adorable lol), and then gave me her account name:
Kyle Scott.
Wait, what!?~! D:
I got Bridget'd so hard today, hahahahahah. X3

:lol:

LMAO!!!

^^^Hah, even after the fact, he was still adorable. Like Bridget! XD

And I finally finished the C# book I've been reading! Whooooo! Huge accomplishment!
At least for someone like me, who has no work ethic.
Now I should be able to write basic programs without many problems. Yeah!
I'm going to review the book every Sunday for a few weeks though, just to make sure my brain is sufficiently wrapped around everything.

Huh, some delicious loli girl came into my store today, traded in some crappy games (which I gave her a bit extra for; she was adorable lol), and then gave me her account name:
Kyle Scott.
Wait, what!?~! D:
I got Bridget'd so hard today, hahahahahah. X3

Laughed.My.Brains.Out.While.Rolling.Down.Flights.O f.Stairs.Doing.Tapdancing.

Lolicon AS WELL AS shotacon?



:lol2:

Huh, some delicious loli girl came into my store today, traded in some crappy games (which I gave her a bit extra for; she was adorable lol), and then gave me her account name:
Kyle Scott.
Wait, what!?~! D:
I got Bridget'd so hard today, hahahahahah. X3

:lol:

Too much!! You have just won 7 internets.

Laughed.My.Brains.Out.While.Rolling.Down.Flights.O f.Stairs.Doing.Tapdancing.

Lolicon AS WELL AS shotacon?
lol, indeed. He was a ridiculous trap.

Too much!! You have just won 7 internets.
Hah, nice! I'm glad my misguided potential love interests are entertaining at least. XD
lol, white trash girl (around sixteen, fat and ugly, and eating too much anyway) talking to her great-grandmother behind me in McDonald's, in a very loud, ridiculous voice so that the 9000 year old lady can understand her:

MY FRIEND'S HAVING A BABY.
SHE EATS LIKE FIVE HAMBURGERS A DAY.
NO, SHE WON'T GET FAT. HER BABY NEEDS THE FOOD.
I WON'T GET FAT EITHER. I WALK LIKE AN HOUR EVERY DAY.
ANYWAY, I HEARD IT'S A GIRL.
BUT LOTS OF PEOPLE WANT TO PUNCH HER.
IN THE STOMACH, SO SHE LOSES IT.
THEY WANT TO KILL IT.
THEY WANT TO PUNCH HER IN THE STOMACH TO KILL HER BABY.
IT'S BECAUSE THEY ALL LIKE THE BOY SHE'S HAVING SEX WITH.
SO THEY WANT TO KILL HER BABY.
THERE'S LIKE TEN OF THEM.
I DON'T CARE THOUGH, IT'S NOT MY LIFE.
I KNOW SHE HANGS OUT WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE.
I DON'T REALLY CARE THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY LIFE.

I found this hilarious. For some reason, the idea of an evil society of disgruntled girls lurking in the shadows and plotting to punch a baby to death is incredibly amusing to me. Surely, punching babies to death is the only true way to express one's love for another. All the winners hang out at McDonald's!
FALCON PAAAAUNCH!!~!

FALCON PAAAAUNCH!!~!

*cough*You need to stop making my laugh myself to death.


It appears that in New Zealand society people born here have evolved to match a distinct equation that "number of x chromosomes present in their DNA equals degree of obesity"

......... well, something like that. I've yet to see a thin white girl who's not emo and suicidal.

HEY! I'm only suicidal on the weekends...

So...I'm just getting the hang of using mIRC in fansub channels...it's confusing as hell >.<
but I think I'm managing so far...XD

The past several posts have made me grin irl.

IRC fserv/xdcc is the way to go! Welcome to the White Side Crystal.


----


<M> I am the hands of my keyboard.
<M> Sharp is my fingers, and speed is my shield.
<M> I have typed over a thousand pages.
<M> Unknown to death.
<M> Nor Know to life.
<M> I have withstood many errors to type many scripts.
<M> Yet, those hands will never hold anything.
<M> So as I pray
<M> Unlimited Home Works.

I refuse to give up :/

So the Toonami block from Cartoon Network is now gone. It brings back good memories from back in the day.

The russian equivalent of cartoon network, and more importantly adult swim, is being closed down by the government due to "inappropriate material" (South Park, Drawn Together, Family Guy, Simpsons)....

Russian Federation.


Federation is such a cool word. It implies you kick republican asses

" Beware boys, Skinny girls are sensitive."

Quoted from indian lecturer.

The russian equivalent of cartoon network, and more importantly adult swim, is being closed down by the government due to "inappropriate material" (South Park, Drawn Together, Family Guy, Simpsons)....

Better be carefull, soon you'll lose your freedom of speech :lol:

Oh, wait... :unsure:

Well, the channel managed to hold out for 2 years: all the time running awesome stuff like anime, adult swim, etc. However, at one point or another someone decided that they didn't like it, and attacked them using South Park as a pretext. However, the irony is that MTV (Rus) has been airing South Park for years and no one said shit...

Also, we have freedom of speech. However, we run a high risk of "fatal accident" if we exercise it. So we choose between our beliefs and a bullet. Only real men are offered such a choice...

Edit: Let me clarify. Over the past 5 years, the government has made the process of creating a new tv channel insanely difficult - too much bureaucracy. So the price of existing tv stations (approx. 15) immediately went up. And since this channel seems to have the least government protection, someone decided that they would be the easiest to buy. When that didn't work, "they" decided to rough 'em up a bit by trying to get it shut down.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ZeroIchigo/emot-ussr.gif

They're kicking him out too... what has the world come too :(

btw, beautiful avatar!

What is oozing out of the ground that makes Americans so stupid...? (http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/244471/d67dc228/regenboog_samenzwering.html)

I really wish people would stop it with the "America is the stupidest country on earth" crap. The rest of the world is as stupid as we are; it's not our fault we have a lot more money to exercise our stupidity with.

Besides, we invent tons of awesome stuff. Computers, airplanes, cars, the internets! America sure is retarded!
Stop using our internet to make fun of us, you god damned communist/terrorist/democrat. =P
And only the first two seconds of the video are loading for me, which is a shame, because it looks very entertaining. X3

I actually find the superiority complex that non-american's have as hilarious.

I really wish people would stop it with the "America is the stupidest country on earth" crap. The rest of the world is as stupid as we are; it's not our fault we have a lot more money to exercise our stupidity with.

Besides, we invent tons of awesome stuff. Computers, airplanes, cars, the internets! America sure is retarded!
Stop using our internet to make fun of us, you god damned communist/terrorist/democrat. =P
And only the first two seconds of the video are loading for me, which is a shame, because it looks very entertaining. X3

America is retarded. The fact that they've re-elected Bush is proof that at least 51% of your population has mush for brains :P

And if you had watched the video, you would have noticed that "what's oozing out of the ground" is something said in the vid, in which a dumb woman is talking about rainbows near the ground (caused by sprinklers) are created by somesort of chemical, which is because of some government conspiracy.

@M: You know you'd rather live in Europe or Asia ;)

The rest of the world is as stupid as we are;

No.

@M: You know you'd rather live in Europe or Asia ;)

Shhhhhh! They don't need to know that.

The rest of the world is as stupid as we are


Ah fuck. Yes indeed that is the sad truth. 2006 study (yes its two whole years old. Wow it must be outdated) shows Australians with avg IQ of 60, Most of Africa at 70, Continental America (N/S), North Africa, Middle East & South Asia~Pacific at the range of 85~90, Europe&Northern Asia at 100 and Eastern Asia at 105.

A very large portion of the world is just as stupid as America indeed. Being a nation of immigrants, what can you expect? they can't be that much smarter or dumber than the rest of the world.

(ref link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Race_Differences_in_Intelligence_by_country_ (Lynn).png



*Now I'll give that Aussies getting 60 isn't quite fair, but you know.. Australia is like.. 70% of pop having IQ of room temparature(winter) and the 30% with normal intelligence..



Besides, we invent tons of awesome stuff. Computers, airplanes, cars, the internets! America sure is retarded!

Much like the Australians, except America's like.. 1% pop with IQ in the order of ten to the five or so, and the rest close to absolute zero. But we can hardly call geniuses like Albert Einstein authentic American can we?.. technically no... But things like Bush is 100% Genuine Made In USA, and so again as a nation of immigrants America's turned out awesome only because some smart people moved there and got the shit done.

Not everyone has all the resources America has. And so just like the civilisation simulation games we all love so much no resource= no development = no research = well fuck now you're invaded. (By Amercans XD) = They get even more wealthier and go on to invade another one.


And just to mention and ruin your parade "Airplane" was NOT invented by Wright Brothers. Pissloads of people(non-american) made and tested self-powered flight-capable vehicles before them, they're just the first to be "officially" recognized. Oh well, with money comes power to bribe your way into history.

*This may just be an opinion but the only reason Boeing is at the top of the industry is because USA forced Japan to stop aircraft production&design after WWII, we all know the Mitsubishi Zero was just soooooo awesome, even better than Messerschmitt(maybe USA did similar thing to Germany, never bothered to look up). Although seeing as how their cars are doing these days maybe the Japanese engineers lost their touch.. just a little.

And about the cars, I remember it was some swiss guy that first made a vehicle using internal combustion engine. and DEFINITELY BENZ WHO MADE THE FIRST MODERN VEHICLE!! BEEEEEEEEEEEEEENZ!!


As for internet and computers, well both sides were making something that was essentially the same during WWII&Cold War etcetcetc... But the Germans and Russians got stuck up with "YOU HAVE NOT ENOUGH MINERALS" or "INSUFFICIENT VASPINE GAS" and "YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS" crap. Probably.



Man its so fun rambling in GC that I lost track of time. Nothing personal though HC. :mellow:

And I'm an Athiest, so I can still make fun of Americans right? or at least the pentacoastals, yay.


Edit: I had two typoes. I spelt Messerschmitt wrong and wrote addictional instead of additional. damn my IQ just isn't high enough.

I don't mind your rants, Kou. =D
I really had no idea whether or not we were the first to invent any of that crap; I was just...you know...assuming. I can't be bothered to actually do research to respond to "Such and such a country is retarded" comments. I feel a little guilty even responding to them! But yes, my main point was that people are stupid everywhere. Not really glorifying America, just pointing out that the whole world is shitty, not just the place I live. X3

@M: You know you'd rather live in Europe or Asia
I'd like to travel, and find out myself. I hear all sorts of things about different parts of Europe and Japan, but I can't really trust anything I hear, since I get so many conflicting reports. I need to get more worldly, so when I insult various countries, I can at least say "I know, I've been there. That place is a shit-hole. The people there are even dumber than Americans." XD

And I'm an Athiest, so I can still make fun of Americans right? or at least the pentacoastals, yay.
Make fun of anyone you want, as long as you're being clever enough to make me laugh while you're doing so.
And jesus, Australians are freaking stupid. Maybe it's because half of them were shipped over from Britain...
kekekekekekeke.

That's an interesting study, though!

What is oozing out of the ground that makes Americans so stupid...? (http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/244471/d67dc228/regenboog_samenzwering.html)

OMG...XD

Whats gewgon?


I really wish people would stop it with the "America is the stupidest country on earth" crap. The rest of the world is as stupid as we are; it's not our fault we have a lot more money to exercise our stupidity with.

Besides, we invent tons of awesome stuff. Computers, airplanes, cars, the internets! America sure is retarded!
Stop using our internet to make fun of us, you god damned communist/terrorist/democrat. =P
And only the first two seconds of the video are loading for me, which is a shame, because it looks very entertaining. X3

lol, I agree with the first part of the comment to some extent.


I actually find the superiority complex that non-american's have as hilarious.

I find it kinda sad x_x


America is retarded. The fact that they've re-elected Bush is proof that at least 51% of your population has mush for brains :P

And if you had watched the video, you would have noticed that "what's oozing out of the ground" is something said in the vid, in which a dumb woman is talking about rainbows near the ground (caused by sprinklers) are created by somesort of chemical, which is because of some government conspiracy.

@M: You know you'd rather live in Europe or Asia ;)



No.
Kou took care of this.


Shhhhhh! They don't need to know that.
We know M :3 You sleep type!
(yeah right, sleep must be an alien concept to you ;) )


Ah fuck. Yes indeed that is the sad truth. 2006 study (yes its two whole years old. Wow it must be outdated) shows Australians with avg IQ of 60, Most of Africa at 70, Continental America (N/S), North Africa, Middle East & South Asia~Pacific at the range of 85~90, Europe&Northern Asia at 100 and Eastern Asia at 105.

A very large portion of the world is just as stupid as America indeed. Being a nation of immigrants, what can you expect? they can't be that much smarter or dumber than the rest of the world.

(ref link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Race_Differences_in_Intelligence_by_country_ (Lynn).png
Agreed




*Now I'll give that Aussies getting 60 isn't quite fair, but you know.. Australia is like.. 70% of pop having IQ of room temparature(winter) and the 30% with normal intelligence..

Much like the Australians, except America's like.. 1% pop with IQ in the order of ten to the five or so, and the rest close to absolute zero. But we can hardly call geniuses like Albert Einstein authentic American can we?.. technically no... But things like Bush is 100% Genuine Made In USA, and so again as a nation of immigrants America's turned out awesome only because some smart people moved there and got the shit done.

Not everyone has all the resources America has. And so just like the civilisation simulation games we all love so much no resource= no development = no research = well fuck now you're invaded. (By Amercans XD) = They get even more wealthier and go on to invade another one.


And just to mention and ruin your parade "Airplane" was NOT invented by Wright Brothers. Pissloads of people(non-american) made and tested self-powered flight-capable vehicles before them, they're just the first to be "officially" recognized. Oh well, with money comes power to bribe your way into history.

Made me think of Tesla D: Tho I'm not too sure I know exactly how that went down.


*This may just be an opinion but the only reason Boeing is at the top of the industry is because USA forced Japan to stop aircraft production&design after WWII, we all know the Mitsubishi Zero was just soooooo awesome, even better than Messerschmitt(maybe USA did similar thing to Germany, never bothered to look up). Although seeing as how their cars are doing these days maybe the Japanese engineers lost their touch.. just a little.
Didn't know the Zero was that good, worth looking into.


And about the cars, I remember it was some swiss guy that first made a vehicle using internal combustion engine. and DEFINITELY BENZ WHO MADE THE FIRST MODERN VEHICLE!! BEEEEEEEEEEEEEENZ!!

True, but one must also mention Ford...


As for internet and computers, well both sides were making something that was essentially the same during WWII&Cold War etcetcetc... But the Germans and Russians got stuck up with "YOU HAVE NOT ENOUGH MINERALS" or "INSUFFICIENT VASPINE GAS" and "YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS" crap. Probably.
For some reason I thought the internet was a french idea O_o Im lost it seems XD. <3 the SC tho.


Man its so fun rambling in GC that I lost track of time. Nothing personal though HC. :mellow:

And I'm an Athiest, so I can still make fun of Americans right? or at least the pentacoastals, yay.


Edit: I had two typoes. I spelt Messerschmitt wrong and wrote addictional instead of additional. damn my IQ just isn't high enough.


Recap: Loads of people are frigging idiots, accept it. This is not based on where they're from but rather who they are. Quotes are nice, because they allow us to express our own thoughts using the words of those far more eloquent than ourselves :3

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. - George Carlin

Dude M, I am your quote!
(probably stands for Multiquote... but I still give ya credit since your name *is* technicaly there :P )

Ahh... The power of my quote button.

That MQuote button should be changed so it'll say "M'sQuote"

That MQuote button should be changed so it'll say "M'sQuote"

My name is Paradox and I approve of this message.

KONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!11ONE!!!11!1!1!!!!111!!!!

Ok, some friend of mine got media attention just now.

All he did was post a comment to some article about Windows 7 (..apparently they had a sequel to vista? .. :mellow: )

And now he's been quoted on no less than 6 online news sites in under.. 2 hours so far.


And there are emails from random people congratulating him for his 15 minutes of fame.

And offers for penis enlargements along with those random congratulating letters (don't forget the Insurance Agents, 'lonely ladies' that sit in front of their computers 24/7 and offers of "honourary" degree certificates from Universities named Ohaio, Harbard and 0xford)

And hatemail from Msoft fanboys(girls?) threatening to kill him for making a comment that doesn't glorify MS.


So we changed his ID and masked his IP and he's got himself a new email address.


You must be a masochist to even think about wanting to become a celebrity. damn!

I actually find the superiority complex that non-american's have as hilarious.

Btw, now you finally know how the rest of the world feels about Americans :P

edit: oh, and it's "non-Americans". You only use 's after an abbreviation (CD's) or when indicating ownership (M's money).

You must be a masochist to even think about wanting to become a celebrity. damn!

The obsession with celebrities that a lot of people have still confuses me.

I've had my 15mins of fame for my life time. I can't imagine constantly being in the line light.

Any chance off seeing what he said to cause this effect?

You only use 's after an abbreviation (CD's)
Thanks, I didn't know that. I always did it, but I thought I was doing it wrong. I only did it because I thought it looked better. Nice to know that it's correct, too. XD

All he did was post a comment to some article about Windows 7 (..apparently they had a sequel to vista? .. )
Article please? I'm rooting for the next Windows, so I hope it turns out better than Vista. Not that I even use Vista. Not that I have any real reason to think it might be bad, other than that's what everyone says. But whatever. I do know Vista wouldn't run on my current computer (512mb ram, lol), so that's enough for me to not like it for now...

edit: oh, and it's "non-Americans". You only use 's after an abbreviation (CD's)

That depends on what formatting standard you follow.

You know what, .Net? I don't give a shit the calls to my textbox control are unsafe. JUST COMPILE FOR ME!
I guess I have to use delegates or something to make cross thread calls correctly or something? Time to google things...

That depends on what formatting standard you follow.

Explain to me when "American's" is used.

Ownership.

I meant when it's used in plural form, because for as far as I know, it never happens. If M likes to state otherwise, he's free to explain that to me, of course.

Explain to me when "American's" is used.

In Chicago style, words that are naturally used in plural is included with an apostrophe s. Such as Men's (literally all of man own). This is commonly done incorrectly as Mens, which is a double plural; incorrect UK and US English.

In this case, American is in reference to the entire populous of the United States, therefore plural. As double plurals are unacceptable, to give involvement or possession of an element, an apostrophe s is added.

*tackles M* M~

TOSHI! I've always wondered where you disappeared to...

M's basement.
He only let me out to buy more Calorie Mate

In Chicago style, words that are naturally used in plural is included with an apostrophe s. Such as Men's (literally all of man own). This is commonly done incorrectly as Mens, which is a double plural; incorrect UK and US English.

In this case, American is in reference to the entire populous of the United States, therefore plural. As double plurals are unacceptable, to give involvement or possession of an element, an apostrophe s is added.

So, from your explanation, I understand that you shouldn't even have added the 's to American in your sentence, since American was already a plural. I can't find anything on the 's the way you've used it, anywhere.



Plurals and Apostrophes
We use an apostrophe to create plural forms in two limited situations: for pluralized letters of the alphabet and when we are trying to create the plural form of a word that refers to the word itself. Here we also should italicize this "word as word," but not the 's ending that belongs to it. Do not use the apostrophe+s to create the plural of acronyms (pronounceable abbreviations such as laser and IRA and URL*) and other abbreviations. (A possible exception to this last rule is an acronym that ends in "S": "We filed four NOS's in that folder.")

Jeffrey got four A's on his last report card.
Towanda learned very quickly to mind her p's and q's.
You have fifteen and's in that last paragraph.
Notice that we do not use an apostrophe -s to create the plural of a word-in-itself. For instance, we would refer to the "ins and outs" of a mystery, the "yeses and nos" of a vote (NYPL Writer's Guide to Style and Usage), and we assume that Theodore Bernstein knew what he was talking about in his book Dos, Don'ts & Maybes of English Usage. We would also write "The shortstop made two spectacular outs in that inning." But when we refer to a word-as-a-word, we first italicize it — I pointed out the use of the word out in that sentence. — and if necessary, we pluralize it by adding the unitalicized apostrophe -s — "In his essay on prepositions, Jose used an astonishing three dozen out's." This practice is not universally followed, and in newspapers, you would find our example sentence written without italics or apostrophe: "You have fifteen ands in that last paragraph."


Some abbreviations have embedded plural forms, and there are often inconsistencies in creating the plurals of these words. The speed of an internal combustion engine is measured in "revolutions per minute" or rpm (lower case) and the efficiency of an automobile is reported in "miles per gallon" or mpg (no "-s" endings). On the other hand, baseball players love to accumulate "runs batted in," a statistic that is usually reported as RBIs (although it would not be terribly unusual to hear that someone got 100 RBI last year — and some baseball commentators will talk about "ribbies," too). Also, the U.S. military provides "meals ready to eat" and those rations are usually described as MREs (not MRE). When an abbreviation can be used to refer to a singular thing — a run batted in, a meal ready-to-eat, a prisoner of war — it's surely a good idea to form the plural by adding "s" to the abbreviation: RBIs, MREs, POWs. (Notice that no apostrophe is involved in the formation of these plurals. Whether abbreviations like these are formed with upper- or lower-case letters is a matter of great mystery; only your dictionary editor knows for sure.)

Notice, furthermore, that we do not use an apostrophe to create plurals in the following:

The 1890s in Europe are widely regarded as years of social decadence.
I have prepared 1099s for the entire staff.
Rosa and her brother have identical IQs, and they both have PhDs from Harvard.
She has over 400 URLs* in her bookmark file.


*The jury still seems to be out on whether URL (acronym for Uniform [or Universal] Resource Locator), the address of a Website on the World Wide Web, should be pronounced like the name of your Uncle Earl or as a series of letters: U*R*L. The information technology experts at the college where I work use the "earl" pronunciation, and one would have to ask why you'd want to say "you-are-ell" when a simple "earl" would suffice. In either case, though, the plural of URL would be spelled URLs. The New York Times, by the way, would insist on U.R.L.'s because their style guide requires that everything be capitalized in headlines and URLS would look dumb in a headline. So use URLs unless you're writing for the New York Times.


http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/plurals.htm

Grammar x_x

Can't we discuss something simpler? like differential equations and logarithms? I'll even settle for time series analysis...

The obsession with celebrities that a lot of people have still confuses me.

I've had my 15mins of fame for my life time. I can't imagine constantly being in the line light.

Any chance off seeing what he said to cause this effect?

Its Korean. So's all the crap that went. But if you really want..


http://gigglehd.com/zbxe/917555


That's the article. Go figure.

So, from your explanation, I understand that you shouldn't even have added the 's to American in your sentence, since American was already a plural. I can't find anything on the 's the way you've used it[;] anywhere.

No, I said that you HAVE to add an apostrophe s when the item in concern is already plural and requires ownership. What you said is that when something is plural it already has ownership. This is very much incorrect. I think either you or I missed something in my last statement, so I'll try it again.

Americans is double plural and is not the same as American's. It is a different form of the word, as it means the ownership/involvement of the entire populous. Keeping it as American is to refer to one or many beings that is such, but not anything in regards to what they own or not own.

The way you are saying that you use apostrophe s is after an acronym, ownership in one or groups, and for contractions. These are all correct, but not exhaustive. There are words out there that are not defined in the above, such as the double plural issue (as addressed and exemplified above), polycontractions (such as wouldn't've, previously deemed as incorrect grammar and has recently been adopted), induced ownership (She is going to the bathroom because her purse is broken).

Let me try to show you this way.... Do you say the African's or Africans? German's or Germans? Same word tense, same problem.

Each item brings about a question of what exactly it is you mean about the mass in question. Do you mean it in as a bunch of the mass — which would mean double plural, which is okay, but not the direct meaning we're looking for — or the ownership of the mass? The easiest way to illustrate ownership/involvement is to add apostrophe s. Without it, the word can only be induced to have ownership, but that's a bad idea as it is a vague way to show it as so.

I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm saying that the way I construct my English is different from the way you construct your English.

Irregardless, this is all semantics of how one uses a language that is constructed as crazily as how the French spell their words. The only difference is that the French have rules, whereas English keeps morphing into a more and more confusing language.

Unless used as contractions, apostrophes mean possession.

M, this is your sentence:


I actually find the superiority complex that non-american's have as hilarious.


The 's is just wrong there. It's non-Americans, because Americans is the plural form of American (and non obviously states that it's the people who aren't Americans).

If you want to use "American" without an s as a plural, add "the"

I think the American is hilarious.
You talk of one American who is hilarious

I think the American are hilarious.
This automatically implies that you mean the American people, making it:

I think the American people are hilarious.

However, in your case, it would have to be:

I think Americans are hilarious
You can't think the word "people" in there, because Americans is already plural.

There is no way to use "American" as a word for the whole population without adding "the" in front and thinking "people" or "population" after it.

You could say "I think America's people are hilarous" but in your sentence, that wouldn't work either, because there is no such thing as "Non-America's people".

Unless there is some weird rule that does approve of your 's in your sentence, there's just no way it can be right.


Americans is double plural and is not the same as American's. It is a different form of the word, as it means the ownership/involvement of the entire populous. Keeping it as American is to refer to one or many beings that is such, but not anything in regards to what they own or not own.


Americans isn't a double plural. It's one American, two Americans. One American's arm = the arm of one American. It indicates ownership and nothing else.

.......


Americans is technically wrong, it was considered double plural in a somewhat strict way, you aren't supposed to add 's' to make plurals out of countrymen(?)

.. otherwise in a very strict sense you're saying the plural of Dutch is Dutchs. or some form of thereof. Chinese, Chineses? Korean, Koreans that sort of sounds right but the others don't do they?

But since a whole heck of a lot of us lost that somewhere between grammar and colloquialism now no one cares if we just say Americans and I'm rather inclined to believe that it is dictionary certified now?


So who gives. Its Egrish. W''r' 'll r'ght?


Edit: in conclusion I reckon M is correct. we're actually talking of a possession of the American(s) here, so the apostrophe belongs. If you were being picky Angelic you could say Americans', but as explained above American's should be the case.

"I actually find the non-american's superiority complex hilarious."

If we arrange it this way maybe its easier to see.

:sigh: I'm not going to change the way I've been instructed to write, especially when considering the scope of the issue.

As I said in my last post, you have your way of writing, and I have my way. I think it's safe to leave it at that :).

Just to nail it in let us blame the population of the United States of America again for this rather sad misunderstanding (Sorry HC?)

I am sure they just assumed adding "s" at the end of everything would turn it plural and managed to infect us with it along the way. Yeeeeeeeees I am sure of it.

Just imagine those people saying "One sheep, Two sheeps"


Oh many many many craps.


By the way M I have never asked but are you British?

Edit: Okay I have found solid hard evidence.

DISCLAIMER: I clicked the links to only confirm their existence, and therefore the existence of people of United States of America who think "sheeps" is plural for sheep. These sites in no way reflect any person interest.

www.sheepsofrage.com/ <- I believe the .com speaks for itself.
www.eecs.harvard.edu/~nesson/sequencer.html <- is titled "sheeps get their grooves on" . And this is THE Harvard we are talking about. No wonder the MIT students make fun of them all the time.

I have quite a few European roots -- Finnish, German, French, West English; to name my grandparent's native nationality -- but I was born American, though I dislike being one. Sadly, I'm unable to migrate as of right now. Perhaps once I leave the nest and get a more permanent job I'll be able to change this, yet I'll never lose this bloodright.

Holy Shit! Gand is online :o

*peeks out from under the bed*

Is the grammar finally gone?

I have quite a few European roots -- Finnish, German, French, West English; to name my grandparent's native nationality -- but I was born American, though I dislike being one. Sadly, I'm unable to migrate as of right now. Perhaps once I leave the nest and get a more permanent job I'll be able to change this, yet I'll never lose this bloodright.

Aw man, I dunno whether to be sympathetic or empathetic.


And yes holy shit Gand was online. I think I saw him like.. ten or so times during my entire time here.

You mean during the past 2 years? He was always online in the early years =P

Ah my apoligies. I've lost 2006 and 2007 somewhere down the line.

I have to actually calculate how old I am these days. Its like levels in D&D.

Once past 20, one or two.. or even three doesn't matter ~_~

Yeah, after lv. 21 any additional growth is just sad :(

IrregardlessTHIS IS NOT A WORD!!1!112345!1onceicaughtafishalive!11!!

I know, it was intended to be redundant, as is majority of what I write.

How on Earth is "American" plural? Look it up in a dictionary then.

noun
1. a native or inhabitant of the United States
2. the English language as used in the United States [syn: American English]
3. a native or inhabitant of a North American or Central American or South American country

"American" simply isn't plural, at least not in the way you used it. You can say "I have my way of writing and you have yours" but you haven't shown me anything that actually proves me wrong and you're right. Unless it's some abstract American way of writing it, it doesn't exist in common English.

Language is fluid. It's not set in stone and depends only on general agreement - though, even that is subjective.

I gave a working example, provided counterpoints, and illustrated why they are used that way, and Kou provided a couple as well. How does this not count as evidence? :\

If you want hard evidence, then I cannot provide it, but then again, what about the other ten percent of English that is undocumented (implicit clauses, polycontractions, proper sentence fragments, prose structure, abstract constructions)? Those aren't document, but they are used and often. I'm certain the dutch language has many language rules that are not written down, but are still used.

Even so, language is meant to be fluid and ever-morphing; not a standard. Otherwise, we'd all still be speaking an old Middle Eastern language. Damn you zero... You beat me to it.

Also, might I ask why you're so adamant about this topic? I tried to put a stopper on this before it became a flame war, but you seem intent on seeing my defeat. It honestly feels like you're trying to attack me; I don't mind, but I'd like to know the background behind why you're pursuing this, as both you and I are like brick walls on the subject.

It's a freakin word people! :sigh:

Omg grammar's back! Back under the bed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN-rM09JVnY

Akihabara :)

The promise land.

I gave a working example, provided counterpoints, and illustrated why they are used that way, and Kou provided a couple as well. How does this not count as evidence? :\

If you want hard evidence, then I cannot provide it, but then again, what about the other ten percent of English that is undocumented (implicit clauses, polycontractions, proper sentence fragments, prose structure, abstract constructions)? Those aren't document, but they are used and often. I'm certain the dutch language has many language rules that are not written down, but are still used.

Even so, language is meant to be fluid and ever-morphing; not a standard. Otherwise, we'd all still be speaking an old Middle Eastern language. Damn you zero... You beat me to it.

Also, might I ask why you're so adamant about this topic? I tried to put a stopper on this before it became a flame war, but you seem intent on seeing my defeat. It honestly feels like you're trying to attack me; I don't mind, but I'd like to know the background behind why you're pursuing this, as both you and I are like brick walls on the subject.


I'm not attacking you nor do I intend this to be a flame war, it's just something I can't seem to grasp since it is in conflict with what I learnt when I studied English at university so I wanna know what's behind it x_x

I came back because of the apostrophe abuse.

Apostrophes are used to indicate the posesson, or to replace missing letters. I've seen them used to make plurals out of acronyms (e.g. CPU's), but you don't use it to make "American" plural.

I'm an English teacher. Believe me!!!

I've seen compilers that are more relaxed when it comes to dealing with different variants of a grammar :v

For someone who will major in English...maybe I should pay attention to this :\

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For the third time, I don't want to make American plural. IT ALREADY IS!

I'll try it from a different angle again. From what I've learned, when you're referring to an ethnicity, you're referring to either one or all in which depends on how you refer to it. From as that stands, American is enough to say more than one, as stated by . When I said non-American's, this is the same as saying British, Russian, Chinese, Australian, ...; everything BUT American. This means that it is plural as I'm referring to all races except one. Did that make a bit more sense?

:sigh: Regardless... [I'm going to leave that open]

Gentlemen...

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CORN!

:rukia:

Bloody knees!!

I haven't been fucked like that since grade school.

Such an awesome quote =)

Gand and Spoonpuppet? A sign of good things, surely...

Gentlemen...

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h255/porschegtiii/Behold.jpg

CORN!

thanks, about to head off to uni with a realy bad cold and that just made my day. AMV hell ftw

The grammar disscusions are wasted on us dyslexics XD

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For the third time, I don't want to make American plural. IT ALREADY IS!

I'll try it from a different angle again. From what I've learned, when you're referring to an ethnicity, you're referring to either one or all in which depends on how you refer to it. From as that stands, American is enough to say more than one, as stated by . When I said non-American's, this is the same as saying British, Russian, Chinese, Australian, ...; everything BUT American. This means that it is plural as I'm referring to all races except one. Did that make a bit more sense?

:sigh: Regardless... [I'm going to leave that open]

It makes sense, but it doesn't seem right to me :huh:

Basically you divide the world in 2 groups:

1.) Americans (the American people)
2.) non-Americans (the non-American)

Since "the American" is already plural, and adding non- in front only makes it the opposite, it is non-American, not non-American's. It doesn't matter that they are many other races (even though they are different nationalities, not races, but anyway..). The moment you put all of them opposite the American people they become one group, namely the non-American people, hence the 's isn't required and even incorrect.

How on Earth is "American" plural? Look it up in a dictionary then.

Okay. I'm just going to add more because my original post from a bystander's point of view seems to have been completely ignored.

Original argument: the apostrophe. A quick check on Microsoft word shows no grammatical errors with either having or not having the apostrophe. Will refer later

Second argument: Plural of American. I'm not going to say Americans is grammatically incorrect. Heck even I say Americans. But this entire argument is in a technical sense (because that's what it's all about. Technicality and pride. Neither one of us want to admit we're wrong, even though neither of us have complete mastery over English. We all defend what we've been taught)

Then I'm just going to ask again, What is the plural of Dutch? Japanese? British? French? Malaysian? New Zealander? (Just to cover all, or at least most of, the common "suffixes" we add to mean a person of the nation)

Of those I will honestly admit I'd find Malaysians and New Zealanders plausible and have heard and used them myself. But I can't imagine myself applying such to the others. And I don't believe there is a special rule regarding plurals of such words.

I firmly believe with conviction that it's a case of "one sheep, two sheeps" from citizens of continental America that have gone deep enough in our spoken language that even our dictionary has decided to find it acceptable. But that still doesn't mean "two sheep" is completely wrong.

Maybe one day it will come when the correct plural of mouse becomes not mice but mouses. Who knows.


Going back to original argument, possession is being discussed (American(s) and superiority complex) So I believe an aphostrophe wouldn't be incorrect, even if it does look awkward and I wouldn't use it myself. (because of "have" being in there. Replacing American(s) with some other pronoun would make it sound even more awkward)

Maybe archaic form of grammar did force use the apostrophe in such cases.
(Maybe his was spelt he's a long time ago?)
Maybe because the word 'have' there implies possession and therefore you're not supposed to add the apostrophe. I Do Not Know.


In conclusion I personally would've wrote the same sentence "I actually find the superiority complex that the non-american have as hilarious" If I was to write in that specific word order. But I wouldn't scream at "I actually find the superiority complex that non-americans' have as hilarious" for incorrect grammar, as I neither have the complete knowledge nor evidence (for or against) to argue its correctness any more than what I've written.



** Unless a firm hard evidence by something a lot more trustworthy than Wikipedia is thrown at against my argument I will no longer bother to correspond in this bookfight. It's damn stupid and the only reason I entered was because of the shot at plurals. I've been taught it as American, was told both is acceptable now in terms of spoken language. Language evolves. Especially a bastard one such as English.

Microsoft Word...

*stab*

I hate my word processing class.

EDIT: Not because it's hard, but just the sheer volume of work... and then the teacher doesn't even grade, we upload the work to the web and a program grades it, but the program is stupid and corrects things that are already correct and gives false grades.

EDIT2: mmm... green tea...

*glances at the clock*

Time to head off so I can get to class on time. *waves*

Afternoon tea.

Around 5am today, someone claiming to be someone who was there to take my mother's car back to the dealer almost basically ran my mother and me over w/ her own car. According to my mom, he hopped the gate and opened and tried to leave w/ it, my mom hearing it, went out and tried to asked him what was going on. He just said he was there to take it back since it was deemed stolen due to unpaid bills which was crap since they would always notify us if we were late. So when my mom was trying to get her stuff from the car, he took her keys, pushed her and jumped in her car. She yelled for my name and I woke up wondering what the hell was going on and saw him trying to run her down. I tried to help her push the car back but hurt my right arm a bit. He ended up driving off like a manic and left w/ it. We called the cops and everything. I'm like, so pissed and now what the hell are we gonna do now? We also had money in the car, like 500$, her medical stuff and other personal items and I swear if anything of it is missing we're gonna sue. ._.

ctually, the car was reported stolen and he was there to take it but it must be some mistake because we wasn't notify about it. The cops were no big help really since they're trying to treat it as a he said she said thing. Also he supposed to go in there and take it w/out the car's owner knowing but seriously, if you don't show you info and basically try to act like it gta, of course you're gonna be like wtf and try to stop em. This whole thing pisses me off. ._. My arm still hurts.

Around 5am today, someone claiming to be someone who was there to take my mother's car back to the dealer almost basically ran my mother and me over w/ her own car. According to my mom, he hopped the gate and opened and tried to leave w/ it, my mom hearing it, went out and tried to asked him what was going on. He just said he was there to take it back since it was deemed stolen due to unpaid bills which was crap since they would always notify us if we were late. So when my mom was trying to get her stuff from the car, he took her keys, pushed her and jumped in her car. She yelled for my name and I woke up wondering what the hell was going on and saw him trying to run her down. I tried to help her push the car back but hurt my right arm a bit. He ended up driving off like a manic and left w/ it. We called the cops and everything. I'm like, so pissed and now what the hell are we gonna do now? We also had money in the car, like 500$, her medical stuff and other personal items and I swear if anything of it is missing we're gonna sue. ._.

ctually, the car was reported stolen and he was there to take it but it must be some mistake because we wasn't notify about it. The cops were no big help really since they're trying to treat it as a he said she said thing. Also he supposed to go in there and take it w/out the car's owner knowing but seriously, if you don't show you info and basically try to act like it gta, of course you're gonna be like wtf and try to stop em. This whole thing pisses me off. ._. My arm still hurts.

Wow.

Also:

I went to class... and it turns out class was canceled for today.

Thanks for letting me know ahead of time!

Kou's argument makes sense.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.

methamphetamines?

<Shinobi_Heroes> nintendo are effectively the disney of video games
<Shinobi_Heroes> and you can't out-disney disney
<GaimeGuy> unless you're pixar
<GaimeGuy> then you get bought by Disney

Okay. I'm just going to add more because my original post from a bystander's point of view seems to have been completely ignored.

Original argument: the apostrophe. A quick check on Microsoft word shows no grammatical errors with either having or not having the apostrophe. Will refer later

Second argument: Plural of American. I'm not going to say Americans is grammatically incorrect. Heck even I say Americans. But this entire argument is in a technical sense (because that's what it's all about. Technicality and pride. Neither one of us want to admit we're wrong, even though neither of us have complete mastery over English. We all defend what we've been taught)

Then I'm just going to ask again, What is the plural of Dutch? Japanese? British? French? Malaysian? New Zealander? (Just to cover all, or at least most of, the common "suffixes" we add to mean a person of the nation)

Of those I will honestly admit I'd find Malaysians and New Zealanders plausible and have heard and used them myself. But I can't imagine myself applying such to the others. And I don't believe there is a special rule regarding plurals of such words.

I firmly believe with conviction that it's a case of "one sheep, two sheeps" from citizens of continental America that have gone deep enough in our spoken language that even our dictionary has decided to find it acceptable. But that still doesn't mean "two sheep" is completely wrong.

Maybe one day it will come when the correct plural of mouse becomes not mice but mouses. Who knows.


Going back to original argument, possession is being discussed (American(s) and superiority complex) So I believe an aphostrophe wouldn't be incorrect, even if it does look awkward and I wouldn't use it myself. (because of "have" being in there. Replacing American(s) with some other pronoun would make it sound even more awkward)

Maybe archaic form of grammar did force use the apostrophe in such cases.
(Maybe his was spelt he's a long time ago?)
Maybe because the word 'have' there implies possession and therefore you're not supposed to add the apostrophe. I Do Not Know.


In conclusion I personally would've wrote the same sentence "I actually find the superiority complex that the non-american have as hilarious" If I was to write in that specific word order. But I wouldn't scream at "I actually find the superiority complex that non-americans' have as hilarious" for incorrect grammar, as I neither have the complete knowledge nor evidence (for or against) to argue its correctness any more than what I've written.



** Unless a firm hard evidence by something a lot more trustworthy than Wikipedia is thrown at against my argument I will no longer bother to correspond in this bookfight. It's damn stupid and the only reason I entered was because of the shot at plurals. I've been taught it as American, was told both is acceptable now in terms of spoken language. Language evolves. Especially a bastard one such as English.

The reason Word doesn't tell you it's wrong is because American's indicate something that belongs to Americans. The American's point of view - the point of view an American takes. American being single, not plural, in this case. Word can't pick that kind of grammar up.

You guys keep talking about language evolving, but that's just an excuse to use incorrect grammar and claiming it to be correct. I've studied English in university and I got shot by my teacher every time I used an apostrophe in a plural word in English - which is a pain especially for me because in Dutch you do it all the time with plurals (auto - auto's (car - cars)). I've always learnt however, in English, you only do it with abbreviations (CD - CD's) and nowhere else.

"Dutch" in itself isn't an entity. It tells something of what you're talking about, in this case Dutch people. You can say "The Dutch" because it's actually "The Dutch people". People is the plural here, not Dutch. Same for American (or non-american) in M's sentence. The actual word that should be plural, which is people, isn't there. Hence "American" itself can never be plural. Ever.

You can't use Microsoft Word for checking grammar... it's not THAT reliable.

Following possibilities, pick the one that you meant to use :p

1) American (one person from America)
2) Americans (several people from America, or the people from America in general)
3) American's (possessive of one American person)
4) Americans' (possessive of several American people)

Only real exception to this rule I can think of to this rule is "it's" and "its". I haven't looked the sentence you're talking about anyway, lol.

Oh, and about the other nationalities, yes it's kinda like the "one sheep, two sheep" thing. The British. The Dutch. The Americans. The Singaporeans. The Japanese. The Chinese. The Australians.

But really... I AM an English teacher. I actually went to a GRAMMAR school.

I studied to be an English teacher :P

You can say "The American" to talk about the people, but that's what your doing, talking about the people. So, in your mind, you're actually saying "The American people" but you leave the word people out.

You caaaan say that... but it sounds weird.

The Britishes, they have tea.